James' Signature Thread - Page 4

brekk · 10-29-2009, 05:51 AM

Probably my favorite classic rock song (excluding Pink Floyd)

"Good bye to all my friends at home,
good bye to people i trusted,
i've got to go out and make my way,
i might get rich you know i might get busted,
but my heart keeps pulling me backwards,
as i get on the 707,
friday night i've got tears in my eyes,
got to go through hell before you,
get to heaven"

Rorek · 10-29-2009, 06:22 AM

Haha, the lyrics on Jet Airliner are so wrong.

P.S. To add to the thread topic. I listen to a ridiculous number of genres, I enjoy classic rock as well as indie/new age. Being a musician, you learn to appreciate music for what it is. Anybody who says 'soandso sucks' is just being a naive, ignorant cockfuck.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

Fandiin · 10-29-2009, 06:25 AM

Bingo jet had a light on?

Ryoz · 10-29-2009, 07:53 AM

Interesting thread. So, how does everyone feel about how bands perform live?

I feel back in the day, before my day, bands became popular because of their live performances. I feel that’s still important, but the general mass of posers don’t really care. Example: Dragonforce. I don’t really like them, but my buddy had a ticket and wanted someone to go with. He had me listen to the album in the car and it wasn’t really my thing but there were some nutty sounding guitar solos. Overall, the live performance was extremely sloppy. At one point I was actually laughing in the audience. I almost felt like it was a huge joke and that everyone was going to turn around and yell HAHA PUNKED! But no, this was their actual attempt at music and the mindless sheep continued their faggoty attempt at a mosh pit. The entire time I was trying to decipher how anything I heard on the album resembled what they were playing on stage.

Welcome to the era where bands are depending on technology to put songs together for them. It’s truly disgusting to me when a group will release something on an album yet can’t play it live.

Anyway, for the intent of the thread and good music:

Greyform · 10-29-2009, 08:50 AM

Bands being bad live is not a new thing. The worst band I ever saw live by far was Aerosmith back about '79. They were way too drunk to be on stage and were barley coherent.

Those lyrics for jet airliner are funny as hell, I used to love Steve Miller. The Joker (I know not the same album) was one of my favorite albums as a kid.

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Originally Posted by possible

Classic rock is the generic genre people like because you can't say so and so sucks due to the fact that the majority of the artists have some chart topping hit or popular song everyone recognizes.
In short, I think anyone that didn't actually grow up during that era and genuinely likes classic rock, actually has no taste in music.

Wow man that is one narrow minded view, good music is timeless just like a good movie or a great book. That would be like saying anyone who didn't grow up in the 80's who likes scarface has no taste in movies, or anyone who did not grow up in the 40's but liked Lord of the Rings doesn't have taste in books.

Seventh · 10-29-2009, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Araysar

Name your top 15 bands

This is something that hardcore "only X_Genre is good, everything else sucks" people come up with because they're too stubborn/ignorant/a little bit of both to hop off of their favorite bandwagon and admit that while another style of music may not do it for them, it still has merit.

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Originally Posted by Araysar

Just admit already that your music taste is likely shit and that you're lashing out because you're afraid of having your taste critiqued.

Music is a completely subjective art form, and if you seriously think James is "afraid of having his taste critiqued", you're probably also afraid that your buddies will pull up next to you at a stop light and hear that Color Me Badd CD that you sneak in from time to time. I don't like any of the bands you listed earlier. I'd rather gouge my eyes out than listen to the Cure, but the thing is that I don't give a shit if someone else likes them or not. Subjective. If you like it, good for you, if you hate on someone else's tastes and dismiss them as "having shit taste in music" because they like something that you don't, you're the dickbag, not them.

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Originally Posted by James

House of the Rising Sun was in my sig at some point, now there's a badass song.

So fucking much so. I have to spread some rep around before giving you more. :\

Araysar · 10-29-2009, 04:51 PM

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Music is a completely subjective art form

No, it's not.

There are certain types of music which are unequivocally shit regardless of how you look at it.

Erumaron · 10-29-2009, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Araysar

No, it's not.

There are certain types of music which are unequivocally shit regardless of how you look at it.

Seriously guys, just take it from Araysar's list. Fuck classic rock, it's all about Kylie Minogue. (I actually don't mind the song in a "oh hey that's catchy" kind of way but it's the easiest target on the list)

Soygen · 10-29-2009, 05:25 PM

James' is going to sing the remix: "Can't Get You Out of My Thread".

Seventh · 10-29-2009, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Araysar

No, it's not.

There are certain types of music which are unequivocally shit regardless of how you look at it.

Funny, that's how I'd describe 90% of the bands you listed. However if you're into them, rock on.

Fammaden · 10-29-2009, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryoz

Interesting thread. So, how does everyone feel about how bands perform live?

I feel back in the day, before my day, bands became popular because of their live performances. I feel that’s still important, but the general mass of posers don’t really care. Example: Dragonforce. I don’t really like them, but my buddy had a ticket and wanted someone to go with. He had me listen to the album in the car and it wasn’t really my thing but there were some nutty sounding guitar solos. Overall, the live performance was extremely sloppy. At one point I was actually laughing in the audience. I almost felt like it was a huge joke and that everyone was going to turn around and yell HAHA PUNKED! But no, this was their actual attempt at music and the mindless sheep continued their faggoty attempt at a mosh pit. The entire time I was trying to decipher how anything I heard on the album resembled what they were playing on stage.

Welcome to the era where bands are depending on technology to put songs together for them. It’s truly disgusting to me when a group will release something on an album yet can’t play it live.

It sort of ties in with a major, but not exclusive, difference that you can see between older rock and newer rock. Back in the 70's, which is what most people probably reference with "classic rock", if you wanted to be a rock band, you pretty much needed to have a badass lead guitar player. Someone who could shred solos in whatever style of rock you decided to play. Over time, rock bands have gotten away from that. There are still bands out there who are guitar driven, but many more are not. Even lots of the bad bands in the "classic rock" era at least knew that they had to have a dude with some chops if they wanted to come correct.

There has been lots of great rock since the 70's and many great rock musicians and songwriters. But it seems like the general popular rock listening public has lost their taste for guitar driven bands in favor of stylistic and lyrical/rhythm driven bands. As terrible as 80's hair metal was, it was still guitar driven at least, even if most of the solos were just flashy arpeggios. As great as R.E.M. was, I don't think anyone was drawn to them to hear Peter Buck rip it up on a six string.

I can listen to classic rock radio and hear tons of stuff that really doesn't speak to me or falls outside my preferred genres and culture, but I still recognize a good guitar solo.

Not making judgment calls on people's tastes here. But much of my own interest in rock music is highly tied to guitar solos. I like punk and alternative stuff quite a bit, as well as many non-rock genres. Still, I feel like rock has lost something over the years as it has moved away from the original musicianship to a large degree.

Tuco · 10-29-2009, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Fammaden

It sort of ties in with a major, but not exclusive, difference that you can see between older rock and newer rock. Back in the 70's, which is what most people probably reference with "classic rock", if you wanted to be a rock band, you pretty much needed to have a badass lead guitar player. Someone who could shred solos in whatever style of rock you decided to play. Over time, rock bands have gotten away from that. There are still bands out there who are guitar driven, but many more are not. Even lots of the bad bands in the "classic rock" era at least knew that they had to have a dude with some chops if they wanted to come correct.

There has been lots of great rock since the 70's and many great rock musicians and songwriters. But it seems like the general popular rock listening public has lost their taste for guitar driven bands in favor of stylistic and lyrical/rhythm driven bands. As terrible as 80's hair metal was, it was still guitar driven at least, even if most of the solos were just flashy arpeggios. As great as R.E.M. was, I don't think anyone was drawn to them to hear Peter Buck rip it up on a six string.

I can listen to classic rock radio and hear tons of stuff that really doesn't speak to me or falls outside my preferred genres and culture, but I still recognize a good guitar solo.

Not making judgment calls on people's tastes here. But much of my own interest in rock music is highly tied to guitar solos. I like punk and alternative stuff quite a bit, as well as many non-rock genres. Still, I feel like rock has lost something over the years as it has moved away from the original musicianship to a large degree.

That's a good point. Honestly the number 1 reason I prefer older rock to newer rock is that older rock is centered around the guitar like you said. It's not just the guitar solos

It's that the guitar throughout the entire song has a unique flavor and melody that is lacking in much modern rock.

The Dauntless One · 10-29-2009, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Funkenstein

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Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

Nope. Nothing God Awesome. Just the same crap everyone listens to. /shrug Guess I can't talk about music because I don't fill my time trying to like shit only a handful of other people have managed to like. Unknown shit is unknown mostly because it's usually shit.

BTW...all of my opinions are my opinions. Your opinions are yours. It's awesome how opinions work out like that.

BTW that wasn't directed at you. It was directed at Araysar. I was just pointing out how Araysar thinks that people who listen to classic rock can only listen to classic rock via what you said. Oh well it didn't work as intended.

The Dauntless One · 10-29-2009, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Tuco

That's a good point. Honestly the number 1 reason I prefer older rock to newer rock is that older rock is centered around the guitar like you said. It's not just the guitar solos

It's that the guitar throughout the entire song has a unique flavor and melody that is lacking in much modern rock.

Modern rock follows a very strict and simple pattern: verse, chorus, verse, chorus, etc. To me, a lot of modern music is boring and uninspiring. For 3 minutes you're listening to 2 or 3 different riffs and the song is done.

An example (and I'll probably get negged for it) is the new single by Muse. Apparently people jizz at that song but to me, it's no different from Linkin Park or Nickelback. If you pay attention to it, it's the same shit for 5 minutes or however long that song is. The coolness just wears off after the first minute or two when you realize they're going to repeat the same shit.

Dr. Funkenstein · 10-29-2009, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dauntless One

BTW that wasn't directed at you. It was directed at Araysar. I was just pointing out how Araysar thinks that people who listen to classic rock can only listen to classic rock via what you said. Oh well it didn't work as intended.

I realized that after I posted. It was either that or you didn't catch the super thick sarcasm I was laying down

10-29-2009, 05:51 AM	#46 (permalink)
brekk Warning: objects may appear more edible than they actually are Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: The CT Posts: 6,385 +17 Internets	Probably my favorite classic rock song (excluding Pink Floyd) "Good bye to all my friends at home, good bye to people i trusted, i've got to go out and make my way, i might get rich you know i might get busted, but my heart keeps pulling me backwards, as i get on the 707, friday night i've got tears in my eyes, got to go through hell before you, get to heaven" __________________ Brekk SPriest Liesol LOLRet Frstshck Enhance

10-29-2009, 06:22 AM	#47 (permalink)
Rorek ...wait...I get it. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 514 -14 Internets	Haha, the lyrics on Jet Airliner are so wrong. P.S. To add to the thread topic. I listen to a ridiculous number of genres, I enjoy classic rock as well as indie/new age. Being a musician, you learn to appreciate music for what it is. Anybody who says 'soandso sucks' is just being a naive, ignorant cockfuck. Spoiler Alert, click show to read: Leavin' home, out on the road I've been down before Ridin' along in this big ol' jet plane I've been thinkin' about my home But my love light seems so far away And I feel like it's all been done Somebody's tryin' to make me stay You know I've got to be movin' on Oh, Oh big ol' jet airliner Don't carry me too far away Oh, Oh big ol' jet airliner Cause it's here that I've got to stay Goodbye to all my friends at home Goodbye to people I've trusted I've got to go out and make my way I might get rich you know I might get busted But my heart keeps calling me backwards As I get on the 707 Ridin' high I got tears in my eyes You know you got to go through hell Before you get to heaven Big ol' jet airliner Don't carry me too far away Oh, Oh big ol' jet airliner Cause it's here that I've got to stay Touchin' down in New England town Feel the heat comin' down I've got to keep on keepin' on You know the big wheel keeps on spinnin' around And I'm goin' with some hesitation You know that I can surely see That I don't want to get caught up in any of that Funky shit goin' down in the city __________________ "Some things are and some things are not. Things that are not can't be. Because, then nothing wouldn't be. You can't have fucking isn't. Everything is. 'Cause if nothing wasn't, there'd be fuckin' all kinds of shit, that we don't, like..giant ants with top hats...dancing around. There's no room for all that shit."

10-29-2009, 07:53 AM	#49 (permalink)
Ryoz Mr. Unlikely Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Harrisburg, PA Posts: 185 -8 Internets	Interesting thread. So, how does everyone feel about how bands perform live? I feel back in the day, before my day, bands became popular because of their live performances. I feel that’s still important, but the general mass of posers don’t really care. Example: Dragonforce. I don’t really like them, but my buddy had a ticket and wanted someone to go with. He had me listen to the album in the car and it wasn’t really my thing but there were some nutty sounding guitar solos. Overall, the live performance was extremely sloppy. At one point I was actually laughing in the audience. I almost felt like it was a huge joke and that everyone was going to turn around and yell HAHA PUNKED! But no, this was their actual attempt at music and the mindless sheep continued their faggoty attempt at a mosh pit. The entire time I was trying to decipher how anything I heard on the album resembled what they were playing on stage. Welcome to the era where bands are depending on technology to put songs together for them. It’s truly disgusting to me when a group will release something on an album yet can’t play it live. Anyway, for the intent of the thread and good music: __________________ "If at first you don't succeed, remove all evidence that you tried." - David Brent

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