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Vorph · 06-24-2009, 11:08 AM

Well I admit, when I listen to DT these days it's a playlist in fb2k that goes something like:

6:00
Lie
Mirror
Pull Me Under
Ytse Jam
Surrounded
Space-Dye Vest

so I guess that kind of skews my view of the older material. I still don't think they've done anything remotely close to the heaviness of Lie/Mirror, however. As for Moore vs. Rudess, when Rudess writes a song half as good as Space-Dye Vest, maybe I'll change my mind.

darkseid · 06-24-2009, 02:23 PM

Space-Dye Vest is, in my opinion, Dream Theater's best song.

I hope Moore joins Dream Theater for a concert eventually, so I can hear the live version of that song.

AlexTheDictator · 06-24-2009, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkseid

Space-Dye Vest is, in my opinion, Dream Theater's best song.

That's a wicked powerful statement, sir. I don't think I could ever say what DT's best song is, but I think Space-Dye Vest would definitely be in my top 10.

Astennu · 06-24-2009, 03:29 PM

It's been my favorite DT song since first hearing it. DT fans are staunchly divided on that song. A lot of fans LOATHE it and the ones that don't like it a lot. I wouldn't hold your breath on hearing it live though. They tried to get Kevin to join them at the 20th anniversary concert and he declined. Maybe at the 25th or 30th he'll give in, but I doubt it. There is still a lot of animosity between Kevin and Portnoy that will make it tough.

AlexTheDictator · 06-24-2009, 04:04 PM

I still don't know the whole story with Kevin leaving the band. I have always just heard the bullshit "creative differences" story.

darkseid · 06-24-2009, 04:30 PM

I heard he left, because he lost interest in the DT's music style.

As for the animosity between Moore and Portnoy, I don't know about that, they did collab on two albums. (OSI).

Astennu · 06-25-2009, 06:26 AM

Correct, but the reason Portnoy didn't do the most recent record is because he didn't want to work with Kevin. An excerpt from a recent interview:

Blistering.com: One of the other bands you've been involved with OSI, their most recent album, "Blood", is the first not to feature you on drums. Was it just scheduling problems that meant you couldn't be involved with it?

Portnoy: No it wasn't a time factor, it was really a chemistry factor that boils down to my experience doing the first two OSI albums. To be honest with you working with Kevin Moore [former DREAM THEATER keyboardist] is just not much fun. He's really a very… I'll put it politely, he has his ways of working which aren't very conducive to collaboration and it was kind of frustrating the first two albums that I did with him that I did not have any reception to collaboration. That's alright 'cause I've done sessions where I've just gone on and played drums, like with Neil Morse or the G3 tour with John Petrucci, I'm fine with that, but as long as it's still fun. But it's not even fun with Kevin, he's just very uptight, serious, so I figured, "Why would I do this again? It's not anything I can contribute to artistically." It's not even really that much fun. So I passed on doing it. It's a shame because Jim Matheos [FATES WARNING] is one of my best friends and I love him and I'd still love to work with him in some sort of project. But it really isn't a fun situation for me with OSI.

cdyhybrid · 06-26-2009, 01:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkseid

Here's my short review: I like this album.

+1

AlexTheDictator · 06-26-2009, 08:22 AM

After giving this album multiple, multiple listens now I will go ahead and say it.

This is DT's best album since SFAM.

ex-genj · 06-26-2009, 11:47 PM

finally listened to this. The Best of Times is incredibly hokey vocally even for DT and Wither is standard throw away DT ballad. The other 4 songs were terrific if a bit excessive but again.. its DT. Def enjoyable though.

Quote:

Well I admit, when I listen to DT these days it's a playlist in fb2k that goes something like:

6:00
Lie
Mirror
Pull Me Under
Ytse Jam
Surrounded
Space-Dye Vest

surprised no As I am, probably my favorite song outside of Pull Me Under (perfection), definitely my favorite guitar solo.

Hikaru · 06-28-2009, 10:35 AM

Dream Theater continues to make albums that sound completely unique and fresh, but retain the essence of Dream Theater. The new album is fantastic.

agoz_rz · 06-28-2009, 09:16 PM

Petrucci's solo at the end of Shattered Fortress (9:30-11:00) and the subsequent verse is my favorite part.

cdyhybrid · 06-30-2009, 09:28 PM

The Count of Tuscany is amazing.

darkseid · 07-01-2009, 02:14 PM

DREAM THEATER DEBUTS @ #6, HIGHEST CHART EVER! | Roadunner Records News

Well deserved.. this album is awesome.

FulorianC · 07-01-2009, 11:27 PM

Jesus tittyfucking Christ, a metal abum at #6? The last band to do that was probably Metallica.

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06-24-2009, 02:23 PM	#17 (permalink)
darkseid I'm back, baby! Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,008	Space-Dye Vest is, in my opinion, Dream Theater's best song. I hope Moore joins Dream Theater for a concert eventually, so I can hear the live version of that song.

06-24-2009, 03:29 PM	#19 (permalink)
Astennu Stand Ablaze Join Date: May 2003 Location: Richmond, Va Posts: 225	It's been my favorite DT song since first hearing it. DT fans are staunchly divided on that song. A lot of fans LOATHE it and the ones that don't like it a lot. I wouldn't hold your breath on hearing it live though. They tried to get Kevin to join them at the 20th anniversary concert and he declined. Maybe at the 25th or 30th he'll give in, but I doubt it. There is still a lot of animosity between Kevin and Portnoy that will make it tough.

06-24-2009, 04:04 PM	#20 (permalink)
AlexTheDictator Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 332 -1 Internets	I still don't know the whole story with Kevin leaving the band. I have always just heard the bullshit "creative differences" story.

06-24-2009, 04:30 PM	#21 (permalink)
darkseid I'm back, baby! Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,008	I heard he left, because he lost interest in the DT's music style. As for the animosity between Moore and Portnoy, I don't know about that, they did collab on two albums. (OSI).

06-25-2009, 06:26 AM	#22 (permalink)
Astennu Stand Ablaze Join Date: May 2003 Location: Richmond, Va Posts: 225	Correct, but the reason Portnoy didn't do the most recent record is because he didn't want to work with Kevin. An excerpt from a recent interview: Blistering.com: One of the other bands you've been involved with OSI, their most recent album, "Blood", is the first not to feature you on drums. Was it just scheduling problems that meant you couldn't be involved with it? Portnoy: No it wasn't a time factor, it was really a chemistry factor that boils down to my experience doing the first two OSI albums. To be honest with you working with Kevin Moore [former DREAM THEATER keyboardist] is just not much fun. He's really a very… I'll put it politely, he has his ways of working which aren't very conducive to collaboration and it was kind of frustrating the first two albums that I did with him that I did not have any reception to collaboration. That's alright 'cause I've done sessions where I've just gone on and played drums, like with Neil Morse or the G3 tour with John Petrucci, I'm fine with that, but as long as it's still fun. But it's not even fun with Kevin, he's just very uptight, serious, so I figured, "Why would I do this again? It's not anything I can contribute to artistically." It's not even really that much fun. So I passed on doing it. It's a shame because Jim Matheos [FATES WARNING] is one of my best friends and I love him and I'd still love to work with him in some sort of project. But it really isn't a fun situation for me with OSI.

06-26-2009, 08:22 AM	#24 (permalink)
AlexTheDictator Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 332 -1 Internets	After giving this album multiple, multiple listens now I will go ahead and say it. This is DT's best album since SFAM.

06-28-2009, 10:35 AM	#26 (permalink)
Hikaru I love pajama pants Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 295 +0 Internets	Dream Theater continues to make albums that sound completely unique and fresh, but retain the essence of Dream Theater. The new album is fantastic.

06-28-2009, 09:16 PM	#27 (permalink)
agoz_rz Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 35 -2 Internets	Petrucci's solo at the end of Shattered Fortress (9:30-11:00) and the subsequent verse is my favorite part.

06-30-2009, 09:28 PM	#28 (permalink)
cdyhybrid Go Dawgs! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Oahu/Seattle Posts: 897	The Count of Tuscany is amazing.

07-01-2009, 02:14 PM	#29 (permalink)
darkseid I'm back, baby! Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,008	DREAM THEATER DEBUTS @ #6, HIGHEST CHART EVER! \| Roadunner Records News Well deserved.. this album is awesome.

07-01-2009, 11:27 PM	#30 (permalink)
FulorianC Real Life Apologist Join Date: May 2003 Location: Denton, Texas Posts: 2,036	Jesus tittyfucking Christ, a metal abum at #6? The last band to do that was probably Metallica.