Best guitarist ever? - Page 3

RMgX · 11-17-2002, 10:52 AM

My favouvorite would be Joe Satriani, great records but live it is just so spaced I can't listen to the records for weeks after.
Good thing he isn't trying to sing on his later records though. His singing is not good at all.

aychamo_aycono · 11-17-2002, 11:47 AM

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Originally posted by Thorpe

George Harrison!

Aye, I can't think of any other lead guitarist that could write something along the lines of "Something" "Here Comes the Son" "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" "For You Blue" "My Sweet Lord". ETC, ETC.

(And yes I know Clapton played lead on Something and While my Guitar Gently Weeps, still George's song)

Xenox · 11-17-2002, 02:39 PM

There's no way to give a definitive answer to this question, but I'll just throw around some of thoughts.

Most Innovative/Inspiring: Jimmi Hendrix. 99% of todays guitarists would not be around today if it were not for Jimmi. He did something completely new and it changed the world.

Most Underrated: David Gilmour, Dickie Betts - Some of the most emotional guitarists around. Theirs solos have a message and they create moods like no other.

Amazing shredders- Dimebag Darrell, Hammett, Malmsteen, Van Halen, Satriani,Rhoads, Vai - All these guys are amazing and play faster than you can imagine. If you want to hear the most insane shredding ever download "Speed Metal Symphony" by Jason Becker, you'll flip.

My favorite - Stevie Ray Vaughn. Never have I seen a guitarist play such lengthy, uninterrupted, inspired and fluent solos. It's one of the greatest tragedies of our time that this mans life was cut off so short.

Dantre · 11-17-2002, 06:26 PM

Gilmour is overrated imo...

Most guitarists who've been playing for about a year of focusing on soloing can play as well as him, there's nothing complex or mystifying to his playing. It's just slow, boring blues licks with some vibrato and bending. He's a lot like Brian May of Queen, they make up for their lack of skill with the excuse that their playing is magical or what not. Clapton/Gibbons (ZZtop) esentially play the same licks they do just much better, faster, and with more energy.

I promise you guys like Satriania, Vai, Petreccui could play Gilmour's stuff with the same expression, feel and "emotion" at 5x the speed. At Gilmour's speed those guys could probably bring a tear to your eyes playing the same stuff he does. They are true talent on the guitar. For raw emotion listen to some Slash from Guns and Roses.

That's not to dismiss PinK Floyd's abilities as a band, they've made some fine music. I can't relate to it but I can't dismiss what they've accomplished. Most guitarists I know don't respect Gilmour and if they are challenged to play his stuff (which most don't like doing) I'll see them figure his solos out note for note within 5 minutes. I come from a different social circle though, we worship real technical players with raw talent.

Anyway please don't take that the wrong way but if any of you played the guitar like you do EQ you could be soloing like Gilmour in about a year.

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My list:

Most important guitarist of all time: Hendrix

Most innovative: Morello (Rage against the machine) and Frank Zappa

Most technical over all: Petrucci

Most emotional: Satriani and Slash of G&R

Best blues: Stevie Ray/Eric Clapton

Best Jazz: Django Reindhart the gypsey who started it all

Most rockin: Jimi Page

Best Rythm player: Dave Matthews/Jimi Hendrix

Most technical rock guitarist but too arrogant to appeal to most people: Jeff Beck/Eddie Van Halen

Honorable Mention: G.E. Smith

Tomorrow's Guitar Gods:

John Mayer is going to be the king of guitar in 5 years or so.

Derek Trucker is a guitar god at this point, his slide playing is out of control.

I saw George Harrison mentioned - I don't know - they're a lot like Pink Floyd to me, I don't relate to them but I don't dismiss what they've accomplished. But by no means do I consider him a technical or skilled player. His stuff is so easy to pla.

I do however consider that John Lennon was a wonderful rythm player and the driving guitar force behind the beatles as much as I feel they're overrated. Anyway don't take what I said about him and Gilmour the wrong way, as a guitarist I just don't see them as being skilled, revolutionary, or of any prominence. And I'm sure some of the guitarists I've listed a few of you will feel suck

Synd D`nys · 11-17-2002, 08:15 PM

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If you want to hear the most insane shredding ever download "Speed Metal Symphony" by Jason Becker, you'll flip.

I believe that Becker dual leads with Marty Friedman on that doesn't he?

Most Influential: Hendrix, Page, Clapton, Rhodes, Santana
Most Underrated: Gilmore, Alex Lifeson, Michael Wilton & Chris DeGarmo
Most Overrated: Joe Perry
Technically Proficient: Satriani, Vai, Petrucci, Eric Johnson
Best Solos: Vai, Hammet, Malmstien, Van Halen
Best Unknown: Jeff Martin
Rythyms: Hetfield, Gossard, Lifeson, Wilton/DeGarmo, Page
Best Bass Players: Les Claypool, Stu Hamm, Geddy Lee, Steve Harris
Song writting: George Harrison, John Lennon, Gilmore, Wilton/DeGarmo, Martin, Pete Townsend, The Edge, Trent Reznor
Best duos: Wilton and DeGarmo, Hetfield and Hammet, Gossard and McCready
Most Wasted Talent: Paul Gilbert (listen to Racer X then listen to Mr. Big. What a waste.), Nuno Bettencourt (Extreme was an above average 80s metal band but man could he play)

Marack · 11-17-2002, 08:23 PM

Man, I have to agree with Garila. Les Claypool is probably the best guitarist ever. He trancends traditional musical thought far further than any of the others mentioned here.

Just listen to some Primus. He plays rhythm guitar, bass lines, lead parts, all while singing. Strap a drum on his back that he can opperate with his feet and he doesn't even need any other musicians. He's got easily the most inovative approach to the Large String 6 (frettless rainbow bass, ) ever. I challenge you to find any musician that can pull off what Claypool can.

As for traditional 6 string players though, I'll throw in a vote for Frank Zappa. So much good music from him its hard to decide where to start, but if you've heard enough of it you probably don't need my convincing =).

Xen · 11-17-2002, 08:28 PM

Alex Lifeson

Geleon Isking · 11-17-2002, 09:16 PM

Les is good and all, but Victor Wooten is hands down the best bass player thats lived. i dont like his style of music, but there is no one more talented at the bass than him, Claypool would be a close second to wooten.

oh and best guitarist...... Zakk Wylde is slowly starting to climb the charts for me. He used to be the neighbor of one of my really good friends, whos house id always crash at, and wed hear Zakk in his garage playing all the time. Was simply amazing hearing him go.

Eomer · 11-17-2002, 09:34 PM

To the guy saying that Gilmore is overated and doesn't have much talent yada yada, maybe from a technical standpoint that's correct. However, even though his music may be easy to play, it's the fact that he wrote it to begin with that puts him high up on so many people's lists.

And Les Claypool is god, at least within Primus. I also have Oysterhead and his solo album, and while they are interesting, I don't like them nearly as much.

If you want to hear the most incredible live 3 minute bass solo, find Tommy The Cat/The Awakening. It's unreal. Hell, I will host it. It's incredible he can sing (talk?) that damn fast, all while playing a bass at ridiculous speed.

Tommy The Cat

Should work now.

Zarx · 11-17-2002, 09:45 PM

Good listings, I am surprised noone mentioned John Mclaughlin or Al Dimeola, Robert Fripp or Adrian Belew.

Frank Marino was a big influence to me when I was a teenager playing guitar.

Hendrix, Jimmy Page and David gilmour are all greats they have done solo's that make you cry. Sooo much feel.

Samus Aran · 11-17-2002, 10:21 PM

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To the guy saying that Gilmore is overated and doesn't have much talent yada yada, maybe from a technical standpoint that's correct. However, even though his music may be easy to play, it's the fact that he wrote it to begin with that puts him high up on so many people's lists.

Nod.

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Les is good and all, but Victor Wooten is hands down the best bass player thats lived.

This is so damn true. I'm going to see Bela Fleck and the flecktones at GT in this AWESOME tiny theater, I can't wait.

Merauk · 11-17-2002, 11:06 PM

Best is such a hard thing to agree so I will go with my favorite.

Martin Barre is probably the most under rated guitarist of all time. He laid down some pretty wicked tracks (Hymn 43 being my favorite). Got to give him an honorable mention and probably my 2nd or 3rd favorite depending on the mood (switching between him and Page).

Randy Rhodes is definitely my favorite though, especially if you listen to some his classical stuff. His album work with Ozzy was really not the best example of his ability (good stuff but live stuff/classical stuff best). Jimmy Page is a real close second for me though.

Hendrix and Townsend are both good but over rated in my book. George Harrison and great guitarist shouldn't be used in the same sentence. Gilmour has never been able to end a solo, great solos they go on forever and never really have a definitive ending.

If you really like guitar highly reccomend picking up some stuff by the Gypsy Kings.

Reefah · 11-18-2002, 01:43 AM

to the list thats already here, i would add dimebag darrell from pantera, and probally zakk wylde from ozzy

mewkus · 11-18-2002, 02:40 AM

leo kottke (solo)

angus young (ac/dc)

Camdar · 11-18-2002, 08:16 AM

Trey Anastasio - can't believe only one person said it.
Page
SRV
Carlos Santana
Eric Clapton
Hetfield
Tim Reynolds - anyone disagree ?

John Mayer gets honorable mention. In a few years this kid is gonna be incredible. Think someone already said this.

11-17-2002, 10:52 AM	#31 (permalink)
RMgX Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 5 -1 Internets	my favourite My favouvorite would be Joe Satriani, great records but live it is just so spaced I can't listen to the records for weeks after. Good thing he isn't trying to sing on his later records though. His singing is not good at all.

11-17-2002, 02:39 PM	#33 (permalink)
Xenox Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 99 -1 Internets	There's no way to give a definitive answer to this question, but I'll just throw around some of thoughts. Most Innovative/Inspiring: Jimmi Hendrix. 99% of todays guitarists would not be around today if it were not for Jimmi. He did something completely new and it changed the world. Most Underrated: David Gilmour, Dickie Betts - Some of the most emotional guitarists around. Theirs solos have a message and they create moods like no other. Amazing shredders- Dimebag Darrell, Hammett, Malmsteen, Van Halen, Satriani,Rhoads, Vai - All these guys are amazing and play faster than you can imagine. If you want to hear the most insane shredding ever download "Speed Metal Symphony" by Jason Becker, you'll flip. My favorite - Stevie Ray Vaughn. Never have I seen a guitarist play such lengthy, uninterrupted, inspired and fluent solos. It's one of the greatest tragedies of our time that this mans life was cut off so short. __________________ Legions of Darkness Profile

11-17-2002, 08:23 PM	#36 (permalink)
Marack Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 18 -1 Internets	Man, I have to agree with Garila. Les Claypool is probably the best guitarist ever. He trancends traditional musical thought far further than any of the others mentioned here. Just listen to some Primus. He plays rhythm guitar, bass lines, lead parts, all while singing. Strap a drum on his back that he can opperate with his feet and he doesn't even need any other musicians. He's got easily the most inovative approach to the Large String 6 (frettless rainbow bass, ) ever. I challenge you to find any musician that can pull off what Claypool can. As for traditional 6 string players though, I'll throw in a vote for Frank Zappa. So much good music from him its hard to decide where to start, but if you've heard enough of it you probably don't need my convincing =). Last edited by Marack : 11-17-2002 at 08:26 PM.

11-17-2002, 09:16 PM	#38 (permalink)
Geleon Isking Jeemy to Sampei, GRATS SAMPEI! Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 70 -1 Internets	Les is good and all, but Victor Wooten is hands down the best bass player thats lived. i dont like his style of music, but there is no one more talented at the bass than him, Claypool would be a close second to wooten. oh and best guitarist...... Zakk Wylde is slowly starting to climb the charts for me. He used to be the neighbor of one of my really good friends, whos house id always crash at, and wed hear Zakk in his garage playing all the time. Was simply amazing hearing him go. Last edited by Geleon Isking : 11-17-2002 at 09:21 PM.

11-17-2002, 09:34 PM	#39 (permalink)
Eomer You mean I can change this? Neat! Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 9,810 +29 Internets	To the guy saying that Gilmore is overated and doesn't have much talent yada yada, maybe from a technical standpoint that's correct. However, even though his music may be easy to play, it's the fact that he wrote it to begin with that puts him high up on so many people's lists. And Les Claypool is god, at least within Primus. I also have Oysterhead and his solo album, and while they are interesting, I don't like them nearly as much. If you want to hear the most incredible live 3 minute bass solo, find Tommy The Cat/The Awakening. It's unreal. Hell, I will host it. It's incredible he can sing (talk?) that damn fast, all while playing a bass at ridiculous speed. Tommy The Cat Should work now. Last edited by Eomer : 11-17-2002 at 09:38 PM.

11-17-2002, 06:26 PM	#34 (permalink)
Dantre Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 333 -16 Internets	Gilmour is overrated imo... Most guitarists who've been playing for about a year of focusing on soloing can play as well as him, there's nothing complex or mystifying to his playing. It's just slow, boring blues licks with some vibrato and bending. He's a lot like Brian May of Queen, they make up for their lack of skill with the excuse that their playing is magical or what not. Clapton/Gibbons (ZZtop) esentially play the same licks they do just much better, faster, and with more energy. I promise you guys like Satriania, Vai, Petreccui could play Gilmour's stuff with the same expression, feel and "emotion" at 5x the speed. At Gilmour's speed those guys could probably bring a tear to your eyes playing the same stuff he does. They are true talent on the guitar. For raw emotion listen to some Slash from Guns and Roses. That's not to dismiss PinK Floyd's abilities as a band, they've made some fine music. I can't relate to it but I can't dismiss what they've accomplished. Most guitarists I know don't respect Gilmour and if they are challenged to play his stuff (which most don't like doing) I'll see them figure his solos out note for note within 5 minutes. I come from a different social circle though, we worship real technical players with raw talent. Anyway please don't take that the wrong way but if any of you played the guitar like you do EQ you could be soloing like Gilmour in about a year. -------------------------- My list: Most important guitarist of all time: Hendrix Most innovative: Morello (Rage against the machine) and Frank Zappa Most technical over all: Petrucci Most emotional: Satriani and Slash of G&R Best blues: Stevie Ray/Eric Clapton Best Jazz: Django Reindhart the gypsey who started it all Most rockin: Jimi Page Best Rythm player: Dave Matthews/Jimi Hendrix Most technical rock guitarist but too arrogant to appeal to most people: Jeff Beck/Eddie Van Halen Honorable Mention: G.E. Smith Tomorrow's Guitar Gods: John Mayer is going to be the king of guitar in 5 years or so. Derek Trucker is a guitar god at this point, his slide playing is out of control. I saw George Harrison mentioned - I don't know - they're a lot like Pink Floyd to me, I don't relate to them but I don't dismiss what they've accomplished. But by no means do I consider him a technical or skilled player. His stuff is so easy to pla. I do however consider that John Lennon was a wonderful rythm player and the driving guitar force behind the beatles as much as I feel they're overrated. Anyway don't take what I said about him and Gilmour the wrong way, as a guitarist I just don't see them as being skilled, revolutionary, or of any prominence. And I'm sure some of the guitarists I've listed a few of you will feel suck

11-17-2002, 08:28 PM	#37 (permalink)
Xen <space for rent> Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 163 -1 Internets	Alex Lifeson

11-17-2002, 09:45 PM	#40 (permalink)
Zarx Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 6 -1 Internets	Good listings, I am surprised noone mentioned John Mclaughlin or Al Dimeola, Robert Fripp or Adrian Belew. Frank Marino was a big influence to me when I was a teenager playing guitar. Hendrix, Jimmy Page and David gilmour are all greats they have done solo's that make you cry. Sooo much feel.

11-17-2002, 11:06 PM	#42 (permalink)
Merauk Fires of Heaven Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 290 -1 Internets	Best is such a hard thing to agree so I will go with my favorite. Martin Barre is probably the most under rated guitarist of all time. He laid down some pretty wicked tracks (Hymn 43 being my favorite). Got to give him an honorable mention and probably my 2nd or 3rd favorite depending on the mood (switching between him and Page). Randy Rhodes is definitely my favorite though, especially if you listen to some his classical stuff. His album work with Ozzy was really not the best example of his ability (good stuff but live stuff/classical stuff best). Jimmy Page is a real close second for me though. Hendrix and Townsend are both good but over rated in my book. George Harrison and great guitarist shouldn't be used in the same sentence. Gilmour has never been able to end a solo, great solos they go on forever and never really have a definitive ending. If you really like guitar highly reccomend picking up some stuff by the Gypsy Kings. Last edited by Merauk : 11-18-2002 at 08:45 AM.

11-18-2002, 01:43 AM	#43 (permalink)
Reefah Fires of Heaven WoW Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 33 -1 Internets	to the list thats already here, i would add dimebag darrell from pantera, and probally zakk wylde from ozzy

11-18-2002, 02:40 AM	#44 (permalink)
mewkus Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: my house Posts: 88	leo kottke (solo) angus young (ac/dc)

11-18-2002, 08:16 AM	#45 (permalink)
Camdar Fires of Heaven Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 9 -1 Internets	In no particular order Trey Anastasio - can't believe only one person said it. Page SRV Carlos Santana Eric Clapton Hetfield Tim Reynolds - anyone disagree ? John Mayer gets honorable mention. In a few years this kid is gonna be incredible. Think someone already said this.

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