You like hardcore metal? (Slipknot, Hatebreed, etc.) - Page 4

Telrem · 01-19-2003, 05:10 AM

OpalesentAsphyxiation:

Guess what, you don't know everything, just because in your opinion someone isn't talented doesn't mean that they arn't. Sure Slipknot arn't the best band around but saying they can't play music is just stupid, it's obvious they can play music, they've had 2 albums.

Vorph · 01-19-2003, 05:27 AM

As for Martyr AD (I assume that's the name of the band in the original post)...

Vocals sound like a cross between Fear Factory (I don't believe that's an accident either, given the fact that Martyr is the name of one of FF's best songs) and Kilgore, I would bet money the guitar is a downtuned 7-string like every other nu-metal band, and the drums sound like Slipknot. Nothing really stood out, other than the fact that the back-up vocals were really bad and the production was fairly poor.

So they can sound like a reasonable facsimile of a few other bands in their genre.... that's step 1 above 'cover band' and now they need to do something to make their sound unique or no one will give them the time of day.

My two cents as a long time listener of metal and someone formerly involved in metal radio back when there was such a thing.

Grag · 01-19-2003, 06:22 AM

korn > all

OpalesentAsphyxiation · 01-19-2003, 08:15 AM

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Originally posted by Telrem
OpalesentAsphyxiation:

Guess what, you don't know everything, just because in your opinion someone isn't talented doesn't mean that they arn't. Sure Slipknot arn't the best band around but saying they can't play music is just stupid, it's obvious they can play music, they've had 2 albums.

My opinion > Slipknot :-P

OpalesentAsphyxiation · 01-19-2003, 08:19 AM

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Originally posted by Weta Smilin
I wasnt talking to you Opal... I was stating my General statement about the tread..directed at no one besides the poison the well autumn to ashes shot...

And honestly.. most of the bands i listen to are more lowkey as i like to put it... not less popular.. i didnt say that

I just hatei t when people shoot down mainstream bands just because theyre that.. mainstream...

And in order for anything to get popular people have to like it.. and people have to hear it.. that is the combination...

People seem to forget that "people need to like it" part a lot...

I listen to 90% Mindless Self Indulgence... and then 10% of EVERYTHING else..... Nine Inch Nails... Pearl Jam...Daft Punk...NOFX...Dead Kennedys...Nothing New...Dillenger Escape Plan...Primus and a vast array of other stuff..

So yeah... thats about where I stand

Nice reply :-). I listen to some mainstream stuff, and thats 1% of it lol, everything else is in the particular vein of mathematical percise music I love... there are a few exceptions though :-)

Worfless · 01-19-2003, 02:00 PM

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I never said they were sell outs, they just have no musical talent, except for their drummer

are you fucking mad? you can't fucking match the melodic voice of mr taylor. and we can't forget jim root or mick, both fucking own the guitar world. while yes, joey fucking rules his set he is also good on his guitar in his side band Murderdolls, plus the other percussionists are good too

you're just an ignorant fuck and we don't care about your opinion, do you think because you have a long name that fucks up the format of the forum or a large gay sig we'll like/respect you?

well the answer is no asshat

P.S posting three to four times in a row on the music forum makes you kool /rolleyes

Vorph · 01-19-2003, 09:35 PM

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you can't fucking match the melodic voice of mr taylor

Buy an Opeth CD. Any of them will do just fine, but I'd recommend Blackwater Park for someone new to the band. Or get Bloodbath's "Resurrection Through Carnage" if you think Slipknot is 'heavy' and want to be enlightened as to what heavy really is--it's the same singer who is in Opeth.

Like I said above, there's not really anything wrong with Slipknot; there's just a whole world of metal you're missing out on if you think they are as good as it gets...

Worfless · 01-19-2003, 11:28 PM

i'm not missing out on everything, i have a shit load of cds spanning most of the genres (yes, i own bluegrass which means i own) i like a lot of things i just happen to like Slipknot alot

i saw otep live and i liked them quite abit actually

soulfly24 · 01-19-2003, 11:48 PM

Vorph - Opeth is an amazing band and the Bloodbath CD rips! I would highly recommend anyone who likes metal that hasn't heard of Opeth to check them out. Their songs are very deep musically and emotionally. I'm willing to say they are the most talented metal band out there right now. Bloodbath is the Opeth singer and some other big names from the death metal scene and it's a brutal, fun album to bang your head and shit to.

Slipknot is overhyped. I bought both thier cd's. First one was decent. Had some good tunes, but got old quick. The Iowa cd just sucks ass and i wish i could sell it back !#%@ Just because you play faster, drum blast beats not in rhythm with the band and in fact, it all sounds like they all playing thier own beat and not together. I felt the same way with Pantera's Great Southern Trendkill. That album sucked.

As for the band this thread is about, I liked it. Nothing original, but it wasn't bad. It sounded quite a bit like a cross of Meshuggah and Hatebreed. Still could use a little practicing to get a little tighter sound and if given the chance for better production, that would help alot also, but don't give up. It's hard to sound original these days anywhere and people will always put a label on you first chance they get.

Oh yeah, Otep is NOT the same as OPETH. lol Otep is ok, but i can't stand that rap vocal shit that chick does.

OpalesentAsphyxiation · 01-20-2003, 08:48 AM

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Originally posted by WorthlessMufuka

are you fucking mad? you can't fucking match the melodic voice of mr taylor. and we can't forget jim root or mick, both fucking own the guitar world. while yes, joey fucking rules his set he is also good on his guitar in his side band Murderdolls, plus the other percussionists are good too

you're just an ignorant fuck and we don't care about your opinion, do you think because you have a long name that fucks up the format of the forum or a large gay sig we'll like/respect you?

well the answer is no asshat

P.S posting three to four times in a row on the music forum makes you kool /rolleyes

Jim Root and Mick Taylor do not own the guitar world. they never have and never will. they don't even really own the nu-metal guitar world. jesus. you call me ignorant but I doubt you have heard of a single band I like. if you did your veiws on talent would change tremendously. I once again offer up any of my music for you to listen to. of course since you won't take the offer, you come across as another dumbass slipknot fan. go cry and listen to Iowa.

and also. since I make the majority of my posts in the music forum at once, after I get home from work, three/four posts in row is fine with me, I choose to share my opinion and articulate it unlike the above which is simple, mindless Slipknot worship.

Telrem · 01-20-2003, 03:20 PM

Where as you post several portions of meaningless self indulgence.

I prefer Worthless's post 100x more than yours, he's just stating that he likes a Band and telling you why he does, sure he cusses every 2nd word but fuck it it's the Internet.
You however seem to think you are the teacher and we are the pupils, I don't care what kind of music you like, but when you say others opinions are wrong I begin to dislike you.

AngryGerbil · 01-20-2003, 03:28 PM

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Opeth is an amazing band and the Bloodbath CD rips! I would highly recommend anyone who likes metal that hasn't heard of Opeth to check them out.

Thank you very much, I think I'll do just that.

Khylen · 01-20-2003, 07:13 PM

Guys I just heard the most hardcore album today.

Its called Justified. You gotta listen to " Like I Love You" and "Cry Me A River" omfg it blows shitknot and Krap (k for korn) out of the water.

(For all you morons out there, I'm being sarcastic. The moral of the story is that hardcore isn't a set definiton of music, it changes from person to person. You guys should stop bickering over this lame crap. People have different opinions. You can't make them change their minds, and they can't make you change your mind. Accept it. Also, listen to what you want to listen to.)

OpalesentAsphyxiation · 01-21-2003, 12:19 AM

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Originally posted by Telrem
Where as you post several portions of meaningless self indulgence.

I prefer Worthless's post 100x more than yours, he's just stating that he likes a Band and telling you why he does, sure he cusses every 2nd word but fuck it it's the Internet.
You however seem to think you are the teacher and we are the pupils, I don't care what kind of music you like, but when you say others opinions are wrong I begin to dislike you.

I wouldn't say teacher. Im just trying to voice that this facist mainstrem music bullshit isn't all thats out there, and if I come across as a pretentious dick, thats fine. Partially because about music I am. I stated the exact opposite of his opinion, so that makes me wrong?

because when I hear "so and so is the best" I come back with defintive examples of why I think they aren't? I guess you don't like my posts because you'd rather hear the mindless spouting of bullshit, than my "self indulgence". I can call whomever I want on whatever I want, thats the beauty of the public forum. if you don't like it you can throw whatever you want my way. once again thats the beauty of the public forum.

If you want me to stop posting my opinions, which in this case is far better articulated than the shit you are supporting, go tell furor, have him ban my ass. otherwise I don't give a shit.

Worfless · 01-21-2003, 11:48 AM

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Jim Root and Mick Taylor do not own the guitar world. they never have and never will. they don't even really own the nu-metal guitar world. jesus. you call me ignorant but I doubt you have heard of a single band I like. if you did your veiws on talent would change tremendously. I once again offer up any of my music for you to listen to. of course since you won't take the offer, you come across as another dumbass slipknot fan. go cry and listen to Iowa.

you're really coming off as a typical "i'm better than you" type asshole here.

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I wouldn't say teacher. Im just trying to voice that this facist mainstrem music bullshit isn't all thats out there, and if I come across as a pretentious dick, thats fine. Partially because about music I am. I stated the exact opposite of his opinion, so that makes me wrong?

you sound like someone, someone who you might be surprised that you sound like, but i'm not gonna tell ya

and you sir are the facist, surpressing someones ideas and opinions only to replace them with propaganda and the opinions of yourself.

and khylen that was 7 lines of pure fucking brilliance

01-19-2003, 05:10 AM	#46 (permalink)
Telrem Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 397 -1 Internets	OpalesentAsphyxiation: Guess what, you don't know everything, just because in your opinion someone isn't talented doesn't mean that they arn't. Sure Slipknot arn't the best band around but saying they can't play music is just stupid, it's obvious they can play music, they've had 2 albums. __________________ Word to your Mother.

01-20-2003, 03:20 PM	#56 (permalink)
Telrem Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 397 -1 Internets	Where as you post several portions of meaningless self indulgence. I prefer Worthless's post 100x more than yours, he's just stating that he likes a Band and telling you why he does, sure he cusses every 2nd word but fuck it it's the Internet. You however seem to think you are the teacher and we are the pupils, I don't care what kind of music you like, but when you say others opinions are wrong I begin to dislike you. __________________ Word to your Mother.

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01-19-2003, 05:27 AM	#47 (permalink)
Vorph Never Go Full Retard Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hell Posts: 5,872	As for Martyr AD (I assume that's the name of the band in the original post)... Vocals sound like a cross between Fear Factory (I don't believe that's an accident either, given the fact that Martyr is the name of one of FF's best songs) and Kilgore, I would bet money the guitar is a downtuned 7-string like every other nu-metal band, and the drums sound like Slipknot. Nothing really stood out, other than the fact that the back-up vocals were really bad and the production was fairly poor. So they can sound like a reasonable facsimile of a few other bands in their genre.... that's step 1 above 'cover band' and now they need to do something to make their sound unique or no one will give them the time of day. My two cents as a long time listener of metal and someone formerly involved in metal radio back when there was such a thing.

01-19-2003, 06:22 AM	#48 (permalink)
Grag Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 7 -1 Internets	korn > all

01-19-2003, 11:28 PM	#53 (permalink)
Worfless Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,680 -1 Internets	i'm not missing out on everything, i have a shit load of cds spanning most of the genres (yes, i own bluegrass which means i own) i like a lot of things i just happen to like Slipknot alot i saw otep live and i liked them quite abit actually

01-19-2003, 11:48 PM	#54 (permalink)
soulfly24 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 250 -2 Internets	Vorph - Opeth is an amazing band and the Bloodbath CD rips! I would highly recommend anyone who likes metal that hasn't heard of Opeth to check them out. Their songs are very deep musically and emotionally. I'm willing to say they are the most talented metal band out there right now. Bloodbath is the Opeth singer and some other big names from the death metal scene and it's a brutal, fun album to bang your head and shit to. Slipknot is overhyped. I bought both thier cd's. First one was decent. Had some good tunes, but got old quick. The Iowa cd just sucks ass and i wish i could sell it back !#%@ Just because you play faster, drum blast beats not in rhythm with the band and in fact, it all sounds like they all playing thier own beat and not together. I felt the same way with Pantera's Great Southern Trendkill. That album sucked. As for the band this thread is about, I liked it. Nothing original, but it wasn't bad. It sounded quite a bit like a cross of Meshuggah and Hatebreed. Still could use a little practicing to get a little tighter sound and if given the chance for better production, that would help alot also, but don't give up. It's hard to sound original these days anywhere and people will always put a label on you first chance they get. Oh yeah, Otep is NOT the same as OPETH. lol Otep is ok, but i can't stand that rap vocal shit that chick does.

01-20-2003, 07:13 PM	#58 (permalink)
Khylen Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 214 -1 Internets	Guys I just heard the most hardcore album today. Its called Justified. You gotta listen to " Like I Love You" and "Cry Me A River" omfg it blows shitknot and Krap (k for korn) out of the water. (For all you morons out there, I'm being sarcastic. The moral of the story is that hardcore isn't a set definiton of music, it changes from person to person. You guys should stop bickering over this lame crap. People have different opinions. You can't make them change their minds, and they can't make you change your mind. Accept it. Also, listen to what you want to listen to.)