H.R. 2905: Shut Up Sean Hannity!

[Mist]

Originally Posted by I'm Rich Bitch

Un-american or not. Conservative talk radio should be shut down.

Why? Who cares? Conservative talk radio is what provides the evidence for the rest of us to reject this crap. If you want to find out just how stupid someone is the best way to do it is to just let them speak.

[Felonius]

not to bump but i just got a neg comment because "i like black people" that made me lol because i hate black people :[

[Laedrun]

people still watch TV and listen to the fucking radio for news? The internet version of the fairness doctrine would be evil as hell. It'll come eventually, and you can bet your ass it'll be from the desperate left.

"Shut down teh FOH forums with the government, noone takes IRB seriously!!"

It's pathetic, they wear it so well. ;p

[Mist]

Originally Posted by Laedrun

people still watch TV and listen to the fucking radio for news? The internet version of the fairness doctrine would be evil as hell. It'll come eventually, and you can bet your ass it'll be from the desperate left.

"Shut down teh FOH forums with the government, noone takes IRB seriously!!"

It's pathetic, they wear it so well. ;p

That doesn't even make sense.

[Kolle]

You'll catch the hate on TV sometimes. Some news people detest bloggers and internet news sites. In their mind you need to work for a traditional paper or TV in order to be worth listening to.

[Khorum]

Originally Posted by voodoochile78

The Fairness Doctrine is not unamerican, unless you also think anti-trust laws are unamerican. This is just making sure that there is a "market" in the "free market" of ideas. In addition, I thought the Fairness Doctrine was around for quite a while before and was abolished by Reagan.

Right now, super-rich conservatives can blow billions of dollars a year on media enterprises.

Yeah, too bad that comparison holds no water because Anti-Trust laws in the U.S. restrict not one First Amendment Right. Whereas the Fairness Doctrine isn't only unconstitutional, it's exactly the sort of thoughtless reduction of individual rights in exchange for State remedies that have always been unamerican.

The fact is Anti-Trust Laws were brought into being to combat those "Predatory Conglomerations" that Adam Smith warned us would one day rise to prey upon individual small businesses. The fact is that those anti-trust laws you made that false equivalency with were actually embodied, defined and enacted not by some crypto-socialist New Deal liberal, but by one of the most hegemonic Republican presidents of the last century. And he didn't do it for votes or popularity, he was simply being consistent with the beliefs and convictions of Smith and Jefferson and Hamilton: that the true soul of the American Enterprise is the earnest entrepreneur and not the predatory multinational corporation.

But while we've ALWAYS known that you're more than happy to surrender the liberty that is your birthright for yet another suck on the State's teat, it's just too fucking funny that you're sitting here begging for yet another Federal intervention when it's clear you don't understand the Fairness Doctrine's heritage. Reagan didn't suspend the Fairness Doctrine because it was some kind of liberal program, far from it. He did it because it was a relic of a shameful and blighted episode of our past. You wanna talk about "super-rich conservatives" controlling the levers of public opinion? Why don't you take a look at how the Fairness Doctrine started its life as the chosen weapon of anti-communist witch hunters during the blackest heart of McCarthyism. It was used to bludgeon dissenting voices into silence. In fact, the SCOTUS case that upheld it helped shut down a radio program that was attacking conservatives like Barry Goldwater.

But the Fairness Doctrine as it was implemented wouldn't even slow down the FOXes and the Clearchannels. As I've mentioned, the only reason we're even talking about the Fairness Doctrine AT ALL is because the conservative voices on radio are the only ones making any money on AM radio. Clearchannel can more than afford to prop up some featherweight liberal foil to Limbaugh or Ingraham and FOX can already make a claim for conformance with the doctrine with crap like Hannity and Colmes.

But what would it do Comedy Central's tight regimentation for the Daily Show and the Colbert Report---which are exactly the sort of "serious commentary" that Limbaugh's all-singing radio program is? What would it do to Bill Maher's show, which had already been cancelled off two networks and is struggling on HBO and syndication as we speak? You think MSNBC can afford to alienate both their remaining viewers by splitting their coverage with "conservative" commentary?

[Khorum]

Originally Posted by Laedrun

people still watch TV and listen to the fucking radio for news? The internet version of the fairness doctrine would be evil as hell. It'll come eventually, and you can bet your ass it'll be from the desperate left.

"Shut down teh FOH forums with the government, noone takes IRB seriously!!"

It's pathetic, they wear it so well. ;p

Worst part is that the people who actually think that the State can solve problems of social inequality are EXACTLY the same people who hold their fellow men at such low regard. The only reason anyone would ever think that the reduction of Press Freedoms is ever worth it is because they think their fellow Americans are simply too stupid to think for themselves.

But that's not what's gonna happen, as we've seen even after nearly four decades of the Fairness doctrine. Americans have always been passionately engaged in the course of the country. Before FOX, before Pat Robertson, before Wallace, before Winchell Americans have never had any trouble reaching their own conclusions and voting to their conditions.

What's actually happening is that the folks (like IRBitch) who think that the Fairness Doctrine would ever correct anything at all are really just projecting their own flaws onto people that they imagine are just as susceptible to mass-suggestion as they are.

They think the Fairness Doctrine will fix ANYTHING because they think that if people listened to the same "beautiful speeches" and hollow platitudes as they have, they'd have NO CHOICE but "magically" think, act and behave in exactly the same way. They think that the Fairness Doctrine MUST balance because if indoctrination and propapanda worked so well on THEM, why wouldn't it work on EVERYONE ELSE.

But it simply doesn't work that way because we've seen that it didn't work that way for McCarthy, it didn't work that way for Nixon in 1960, it didn't work that way for Goldwater and it didn't work that way for LBJ or Carter or anyone else.

[I'm Rich Bitch]

One right wing nut is off the radio. Hopefully it is permanent. She has a new show of FOX News but her show has been off the radio for 2 weeks now. Chalk one up in the win column for America.



Her fans are upset and trying to bring her back on the radio. Guess he does not know how to function since Laura is not there to tell him how to think. The air is cleaner now that one Conservative is off the air.

[Astrocreep]

Originally Posted by I'm Rich Bitch

One right wing nut is off the radio. Hopefully it is permanent. She has a new show of FOX News but her show has been off the radio for 2 weeks now. Chalk one up in the win column for America.



Her fans are upset and trying to bring her back on the radio. Guess he does not know how to function since Laura is not there to tell him how to think. The air is cleaner now that one Conservative is off the air.

I dunno what air filter you are using, but she just went from radio to TV which has a much larger audience. if she was kicked off the radio air she probably didnt have enough ratings which is weird that she would get a better gig. The funny thing is she was likely replaced on the radio by another conservative radio host. so much for that cleaner air

[Cathan]

China is taking applicants for communists.

The other it was Kolle bitching about that family having 17 kids and how wrong it was because they should be adopting kids which I consider fucking retarded because that's their right to have as many kids as they want. They break no laws currently.

Now it's IBTR err IRB (Inane Rickshaw Boy) trying to limit freedom of speech. Liberals use the same mudslinging tactics so fuck off targeting conservatives only. If you don't like the shit then turn the fucking channel.

[Kolle]

that's barely scratching the surface of what i'd do if i had the power and means. i wouldn't let people get pregnant in the first place without getting a license. that and several other evil things.

[Ashes Emberblade]

Originally Posted by Kolle

that's barely scratching the surface of what i'd do if i had the power and means. i wouldn't let people get pregnant in the first place without getting a license. that and several other evil things.

Kolle would pursue the final solution of the conservative question.

[Chips]

I would vote for Sean Hannity for president if he ran.

[Cathan]

Originally Posted by Kolle

that's barely scratching the surface of what i'd do if i had the power and means. i wouldn't let people get pregnant in the first place without getting a license. that and several other evil things.

That's what I don't get about people on the left. Democrats are supposed to be the side that whole heartedly supports the bill of rights in defiance of anything that could remotely chip away at those rights.

I supported the Patriot Act and I'm really glad they put some checks and balances on it but the Patriot Act was at least a response to terrorism. Cutting off conservative freedom of speech or limiting in any way a person's freedom to have children where no law is broken is ridiculous. How can you guys pull for Obama with those kinds of ideals? I think some of my ideas are fucked up compared to most sometimes but without our basic freedoms, even in light of the Patriot Act that will and should go away, we will have lost sight of everything that was sacred about this country.

[Loftish v2]

Originally Posted by voodoochile78

Right now, super-rich liberals can blow billions of dollars a year on media enterprises. For example, George Soros has lost billions and billions of dollars over the years. But it's an investment, because he changes public opinion.

Fixed!