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Old 12-31-2007, 07:31 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Illegal to copy music from CD to computer?

According to the RIAA it is.

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In legal documents in its federal case against Jeffrey Howell, a Scottsdale, Ariz., man who kept a collection of about 2,000 music recordings on his personal computer, the industry maintains that it is illegal for someone who has legally purchased a CD to transfer that music into his computer.
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Fuck them. For a long time I stopped downloading music because I felt it was stealing, but this is going too damn far. I am not going to buy shit from record stores until this attack on consumers stops.
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Old 12-31-2007, 07:35 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Already a thread in the music house.
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Old 12-31-2007, 08:10 AM   #18 (permalink)
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The industry's own Web site says that making a personal copy of a CD that you bought legitimately may not be a legal right, but it "won't usually raise concerns," as long as you don't give away the music or lend it to anyone

Obviously copying the CD for personal use is legal..You're purchasing whats on the CD for personal consumption, its format during that consumption is irrelevant. I don't really see how it can be "murky".

However, the rest is pretty cut and dry..If you copy a legally purchased CD and then distribute said CD, its infringing on copyright protections..The RIAA isn't stretching here guys, the article is just worded in a way to make it seem absurd, really though, its not.

(Though I agree they are screwing themselves.)

Edit**Just read the "stealing one copy"..Well, yeah, that is retarded..But the case being shown isn't..The guy copied songs and attempted to distribute them, thats illegal.

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Old 12-31-2007, 08:33 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Old 12-31-2007, 08:43 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Yes, putting us all in the same proverbial coffin. Problem is - all their profits are coming with us.
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Old 12-31-2007, 08:57 AM   #21 (permalink)
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According to the RIAA it is.

washingtonpost.com - nation, world, technology and Washington area news and headlines

Fuck them. For a long time I stopped downloading music because I felt it was stealing, but this is going too damn far. I am not going to buy shit from record stores until this attack on consumers stops.
Folks, we really need to get better about this. If it's a music-related thread, it doesn't go in General. Especially when there's an existing thread on the same topic already in the Music House.
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Old 12-31-2007, 09:20 AM   #22 (permalink)
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I solved the problem, i dont even listen to new music anymore and the songs i do listen to are on the radio and they are oldies. i have an mp3 player but dont use it.
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Old 12-31-2007, 11:17 AM   #23 (permalink)
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RIAA not suing over CD ripping, still kinda being jerks about it - Engadget

So it's not as the news is saying. As usual. But RIAA still sucks.
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I solved the problem, i dont even listen to new music anymore and the songs i do listen to are on the radio and they are oldies. i have an mp3 player but dont use it.
wow.. i guess the solution is to be a lame deuce bag
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Old 01-08-2008, 11:04 AM   #26 (permalink)
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But my iPhone doesn't have a CD Player!!!
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Old 01-08-2008, 06:28 PM   #27 (permalink)
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So, is Apple going to sue the RIAA or something? Apple can't expect people to buy their music solely from iTunes, and the only way people are going to buy iPods is if they have a choice of ways to put songs onto their iPod (where the songs came from).

This is fuckin' ridiculous.
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Old 01-08-2008, 08:12 PM   #28 (permalink)
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The funny thing is there is no "set in stone" about this type of thing. They seem to make it up as years go by. It's ok to do this, but not that... it's ok to download this, but not that... that's ok, but this isn't...
How many commercials have you seen of download this or that, or tivo this or downlaod this for your phone...

Now you have this can't transfer music from a CD you bought to your computer? The RIAA doesn't even no their own laws/rules they make it up as they go. It's a gray area law, which in my book doesn't make it a law.

Flat out piracy I understand... but telling people they can't make copies of shit they've already paid for is just fucking stupid. I own an Ipod and I transfered all my albums over to it, which is over 4000 songs.
Not sure about you guys but carrying an Ipod and listening to it in the car is a metric shitton easier than carrying around multiple 300disc CD books. Not to mention weighs a ton less

RIAA need to get off their nazi warhorse and /gofuk themselves.
This isn't 1940...

**Edit: Also, if you read the laws, technically you can't buy movies and then watch them with friends, or play music in public settings (clubs, parties etc) as mentioned RIAA doesn't have a leg to stand on. IIRC, years back it was already confirmed that if you BUY the album or movie you can do what you like with it... make hundreds of copies if you want, as long as you're not making money from it. I'll have to look for this article...
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Old 01-08-2008, 09:06 PM   #29 (permalink)
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The RIAA claims that it does not constitute fair use because CDs aren't especially vulnerable to damage and replacements are readily available at your local stores.

It doesn't seem like a great fight to pick but you never know.

edit - Not to restart a previous thread's worth of arguments but it isn't stealing damn it. If I rip a CD I bought onto my computer I haven't stolen a single fucking thing. It is a bullshit labeling game.
I couldnt count how many times i have had scratched cd's that wouldnt play back in my early 20's. Cd's are imo very very vulnerable. Especially if you let other people change your cd's and what not. Before burned Cd's were the norm. I would have loved to have a back up copy in my car instead of the real cd.
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