Old bands.. who tour with 1 orig. member..

Vaeluudaar En`Fuego · 05-16-2004, 01:34 AM

Back on May 1st, I went to a show here w/ Prong and Dog Fashion Disco. I went mainly for DFD, and stuck around for Prong. As I was watching, I realized something- Prong is an old school band, like, something like 15 years+ (please correct me on that, it's a guesstimate). As I was watching, I noticed that nearly all of the band members were like, in their late twenties or early thirties at MOST.. save for the singer/guitarist. It was quite obvious that if he wasn't the only original member in the band, they were practicing while most of the members were still in underoos.

This begs the question... How many people can be left in a band before the said band is no longer the band? I mean, with one person left, yer practically a coverband (imho).

The draw of money is great.. but come'on.. heh.

Yeta · 05-16-2004, 04:15 PM

How many original members are left in Metallica?

Worfless · 05-16-2004, 04:58 PM

3 of the 4, with a minor nod to the guy from megadeath possibly making it 3 of 5

Yeta · 05-16-2004, 05:11 PM

Damn, so they do actually suck now, and their shittyness can't be blamed on the new members

Parv · 05-16-2004, 08:29 PM

Napalm Death. NONE of the founding members are in it anymore.

I know lots of other black/death metal bands where there's just 1 or 2 members from the beginning.

DiscW · 05-16-2004, 09:38 PM

It really depends on who control's the band, how much input each member has on the band, and how important of a performer they are.

Example: If 2 of the members of tool left, they would certainly cease to be Tool, since they all work together on the music. Wheras Nine Inch Nails is 100% Trent Reznor, and everyone else are just performers that sometimes move on. In Metallica it's mostly Lars and Hetfield(sp?) in control, but they wouldn't sound the same without kirk.

Botz · 05-21-2004, 12:59 AM

wow prong, haven't heard of that band in a long time. It depends on what type of band it is. You could take most generic punk/hardcore bands and replace anyone, as long as they sounded similar most people wouldn't even know. I think it has mostly to do with image, the least known members won't be missed 80% of the time so long as the music sounds as good.

It's kind of sad when 1 guy is left and still uses the old bands name.

Fulorian · 05-21-2004, 05:20 AM

And if course, your so self absorbed about the 'hardcore' stuff, you forget the bands that have been playing for 30 - 40 years and are down to 1 - 2 originals. Rolling Stones, Moody Blues, ect.

He Hate Me · 05-21-2004, 10:01 AM

Metallica's down to 2 of 4. Hammett came from Exodus prior to joining.

Hikaru · 05-22-2004, 09:45 PM

metallica has been at 2 of 4 since 1983. the original basist was Ron Mcgovney(sp) and original guitarist dave mustaine of megadeth fame.

with that said, fuck metallica.

Evan Nash · 05-23-2004, 07:23 PM

The Doors have the singer from The Cult now.

They suck.

Without Jim, it isn't The Doors. I respect the other guys, but Jim WAS the Doors.

Worfless · 05-23-2004, 07:58 PM

does mustaine even count? they kicked him out before they recorded

orcmauler · 05-26-2004, 10:08 AM

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Originally posted by WorthlessMufuka
does mustaine even count? they kicked him out before they recorded

Yes Mustaine counts because he was on No Life till Leather, as well as cowriting 4 of the 10 original songs on Kill 'em all.

Scuba Steve · 05-26-2004, 12:18 PM

I thought Cliff Burton was Metallica's original bassist?

As for Prong: I still listen to "Snap your fingers, snap you neck." That song kicks ass.

orcmauler · 05-26-2004, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Scuba Steve
I thought Cliff Burton was Metallica's original bassist?

As for Prong: I still listen to "Snap your fingers, snap you neck." That song kicks ass.

I like Rude Awakening too, but Cleansing is prolly their best album.

05-16-2004, 01:34 AM	#1 (permalink)
Vaeluudaar En`Fuego Break out the chainsaw, ma... I FEEL LIKE CHICKEN TONIGHT~! Join Date: May 2003 Location: X - Static on Victory Posts: 140 +0 Internets	Old bands.. who tour with 1 orig. member.. Back on May 1st, I went to a show here w/ Prong and Dog Fashion Disco. I went mainly for DFD, and stuck around for Prong. As I was watching, I realized something- Prong is an old school band, like, something like 15 years+ (please correct me on that, it's a guesstimate). As I was watching, I noticed that nearly all of the band members were like, in their late twenties or early thirties at MOST.. save for the singer/guitarist. It was quite obvious that if he wasn't the only original member in the band, they were practicing while most of the members were still in underoos. This begs the question... How many people can be left in a band before the said band is no longer the band? I mean, with one person left, yer practically a coverband (imho). The draw of money is great.. but come'on.. heh. __________________

05-21-2004, 10:01 AM	#9 (permalink)
He Hate Me When will Jesus bring the pork chops? Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: There Posts: 72 +0 Internets	Metallica's down to 2 of 4. Hammett came from Exodus prior to joining. __________________ Metal

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Hikaru I love pajama pants Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 288 +0 Internets	re metallica has been at 2 of 4 since 1983. the original basist was Ron Mcgovney(sp) and original guitarist dave mustaine of megadeth fame. with that said, fuck metallica.

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05-16-2004, 04:15 PM	#2 (permalink)
Yeta Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 494 +0 Internets	How many original members are left in Metallica?

05-16-2004, 04:58 PM	#3 (permalink)
Worfless Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,680 -1 Internets	3 of the 4, with a minor nod to the guy from megadeath possibly making it 3 of 5

05-16-2004, 05:11 PM	#4 (permalink)
Yeta Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 494 +0 Internets	Damn, so they do actually suck now, and their shittyness can't be blamed on the new members

05-16-2004, 08:29 PM	#5 (permalink)
Parv The Dude Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 51 -1 Internets	Napalm Death. NONE of the founding members are in it anymore. I know lots of other black/death metal bands where there's just 1 or 2 members from the beginning.

05-16-2004, 09:38 PM	#6 (permalink)
DiscW All I wanted was a pepsi. Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 794 +0 Internets	It really depends on who control's the band, how much input each member has on the band, and how important of a performer they are. Example: If 2 of the members of tool left, they would certainly cease to be Tool, since they all work together on the music. Wheras Nine Inch Nails is 100% Trent Reznor, and everyone else are just performers that sometimes move on. In Metallica it's mostly Lars and Hetfield(sp?) in control, but they wouldn't sound the same without kirk.

05-21-2004, 12:59 AM	#7 (permalink)
Botz Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Penguins swimming in milk Posts: 167 +0 Internets	wow prong, haven't heard of that band in a long time. It depends on what type of band it is. You could take most generic punk/hardcore bands and replace anyone, as long as they sounded similar most people wouldn't even know. I think it has mostly to do with image, the least known members won't be missed 80% of the time so long as the music sounds as good. It's kind of sad when 1 guy is left and still uses the old bands name.

05-21-2004, 05:20 AM	#8 (permalink)
Fulorian Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 333 +0 Internets	And if course, your so self absorbed about the 'hardcore' stuff, you forget the bands that have been playing for 30 - 40 years and are down to 1 - 2 originals. Rolling Stones, Moody Blues, ect.

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Evan Nash Slave to DVDs Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 391 -1 Internets	The Doors have the singer from The Cult now. They suck. Without Jim, it isn't The Doors. I respect the other guys, but Jim WAS the Doors.

05-23-2004, 07:58 PM	#12 (permalink)
Worfless Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,680 -1 Internets	does mustaine even count? they kicked him out before they recorded

05-26-2004, 12:18 PM	#14 (permalink)
Scuba Steve God! Help me pour this gas on me! I need to drown in flames to be free! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Under your bed Posts: 121 -1 Internets	I thought Cliff Burton was Metallica's original bassist? As for Prong: I still listen to "Snap your fingers, snap you neck." That song kicks ass.