Matrix Revolutions Spoilers ----- You have been Warned.

[Warrik]

As to where I got this information, I saw the scripts. Im pretty sure they were genuine, but ultimately we shall have to see I guess. I originally posted this under the Reloaded thread...but realized some people might not want to read this:



The "real world" isnt the real world, its another layer of the Matrix. Neo discovers this after his talk with the architect. Its called the Scorched Earth Matrix.

Neo is a program, as is the architect and the Oracle. Neo was inserted from outside the mainframe. Thats why he cannot be controlled programmatically. Hes the virtual hacker.....using back doors and superior coding to counter act the Matrix. Hes a product of the real Zion, the last remnant of humanity. They have a mainframe too remember

Agent Smith was program, that is now a virus in the matrix.

The dude that betrayed Zions fleet - this guy reveals alot. Remember, he was the guy who went 2nd to get back to the "real world" early in the film, but Agent Smith caught up with him and "assimilated" him? He then became an Agent Smith clone, who picked up the phone when it rang. Next thing we know, the guy who Agent Smith "killed" is running around the "real world" first attmpeting to assasinate Neo and then betraying the fleet. Agent Smith found a way to transcend into the next layer of the Matrix using people. When Neo dove into his body.....Agent Smith became a hybrid "One", essential using the same tactic Neo tried to use to destroy him, but now he uses it to absorb a persona in the Matrix an using the connection maintainined through the previous layer(s) of the Matrx to move freely......with the ability to keep the host alive. The Matrix "learned" from Neo through Smith who is now the antihtesis of Neo. This is what Agent Smith meant when he said, " You set me free" and sent him the ear piece.


When it all comes down to the wire, its a battle of programs. There are programs both trying to destroy and maintain the Matrix. More players in the film are programs....but not realized until the third film. Then there are the real peopel, who through the Virtual Reality prison are in the Matrix struggling to get others free. As Morpheus said, "How deep the rabbit hole goes".


The creators of this movie are going the Tron route.......wether that was their intial intent is unclear, but thats the direction now.

Gloria Foster, AKA "The Oracle", died on September 29th, 2001 of diabetes, before starting work on any of her Matrix 3 filming and her role in the third film has been rewritten. Im not sure how much this will alter the third film.

Click here to see the new Oracle

Remember: Trinity, Neo and Morpheus were infamous hackers in the frist Matrix. When Trinity met Neo, he comented on it...and when Neo was sleeping at the computer in his apartment, you can see headlines on his machine about Morpheus. Trinity and Neo are the only two to die in the Matrix....yet still live.

Remember the spoon Neo got from the Orphan.....the spoon is the symbol of the Matrix. There is no spoon.



Heres the architect encounter for your review(*also, next time you see the movie, look at the Architects eyes, he has a red dot under one and a blue dot under anther, i.e. the red pill/blue pill scenario associated with his choice.):

The Architect - Hello, Neo.

Neo - Who are you?

The Architect - I am the Architect. I created the matrix. I've been waiting for you. You have many questions, and although the process has altered your consciousness, you remain irrevocably human. Ergo, some of my answers you will understand, and some of them you will not. Concordantly, while your first question may be the most pertinent, you may or may not realize it is also irrelevant.

Neo - Why am I here?

The Architect - Your life is the sum of a remainder of an unbalanced equation inherent to the programming of the matrix. You are the eventuality of an anomaly, which despite my sincerest efforts I have been unable to eliminate from what is otherwise a harmony of mathematical precision. While it remains a burden to sedulously avoid it, it is not unexpected, and thus not beyond a measure of control. Which has led you, inexorably, here.

Neo - You haven't answered my question.

The Architect - Quite right. Interesting. That was quicker than the others.

*The responses of the other Ones appear on the monitors: "Others? What others? How many? Answer me!"*


The Architect - The matrix is older than you know. I prefer counting from the emergence of one integral anomaly to the emergence of the next, in which case this is the sixth version.

*Again, the responses of the other Ones appear on the monitors: "Five versions? Three? I've been lied too. This is bull****."*

Neo: There are only two possible explanations: either no one told me, or no one knows.

The Architect - Precisely. As you are undoubtedly gathering, the anomaly's systemic, creating fluctuations in even the most simplistic equations.

*Once again, the responses of the other Ones appear on the monitors: "You can't control me! **** you! I'm going to kill you! You can't make me do anything!*

Neo - Choice. The problem is choice.

*The scene cuts to Trinity fighting an agent, and then back to the Architects room*

The Architect - The first matrix I designed was quite naturally perfect, it was a work of art, flawless, sublime. A triumph equaled only by its monumental failure. The inevitability of its doom is as apparent to me now as a consequence of the imperfection inherent in every human being, thus I redesigned it based on your history to more accurately reflect the varying grotesqueries of your nature. However, I was again frustrated by failure. I have since come to understand that the answer eluded me because it required a lesser mind, or perhaps a mind less bound by the parameters of perfection. Thus, the answer was stumbled upon by another, an intuitive program, initially created to investigate certain aspects of the human psyche. If I am the father of the matrix, she would undoubtedly be its mother.

Neo - The Oracle.

The Architect - Please. As I was saying, she stumbled upon a solution whereby nearly 99.9% of all test subjects accepted the program, as long as they were given a choice, even if they were only aware of the choice at a near unconscious level. While this answer functioned, it was obviously fundamentally flawed, thus creating the otherwise contradictory systemic anomaly, that if left unchecked might threaten the system itself. Ergo, those that refused the program, while a minority, if unchecked, would constitute an escalating probability of disaster.

Neo - This is about Zion.

The Architect - You are here because Zion is about to be destroyed. Its every living inhabitant terminated, its entire existence eradicated.

Neo - Bull****.

*The responses of the other Ones appear on the monitors: "Bull****!"*

The Architect - Denial is the most predictable of all human responses. But, rest assured, this will be the sixth time we have destroyed it, and we have become exceedingly efficient at it.

*Scene cuts to Trinity fighting an agent, and then back to the Architects room.*

The Architect - The function of the One is now to return to the source, allowing a temporary dissemination of the code you carry, reinserting the prime program. After which you will be required to select from the matrix 23 individuals, 16 female, 7 male, to rebuild Zion. Failure to comply with this process will result in a cataclysmic system crash killing everyone connected to the matrix, which coupled with the extermination of Zion will ultimately result in the extinction of the entire human race.

Neo - You won't let it happen, you can't. You need human beings to survive.

The Architect - There are levels of survival we are prepared to accept. However, the relevant issue is whether or not you are ready to accept the responsibility for the death of every human being in this world.

*The Architect presses a button on a pen that he is holding, and images of people from all over the matrix appear on the monitors*

The Architect - It is interesting reading your reactions. Your five predecessors were by design based on a similar predication, a contingent affirmation that was meant to create a profound attachment to the rest of your species, facilitating the function of the one. While the others experienced this in a very general way, your experience is far more specific. Vis-a-vis, love.

*Images of Trinity fighting the agent from Neo's dream appear on the monitors*

Neo - Trinity.

The Architect - Apropos, she entered the matrix to save your life at the cost of her own.

Neo - No!

The Architect - Which brings us at last to the moment of truth, wherein the fundamental flaw is ultimately expressed, and the anomaly revealed as both beginning, and end. There are two doors. The door to your right leads to the source, and the salvation of Zion. The door to the left leads back to the matrix, to her, and to the end of your species. As you adequately put, the problem is choice. But we already know what you're going to do, don't we? Already I can see the chain reaction, the chemical precursors that signal the onset of emotion, designed specifically to overwhelm logic, and reason. An emotion that is already blinding you from the simple, and obvious truth: she is going to die, and there is nothing that you can do to stop it.

*Neo walks to the door on his left*

The Architect - Humph. Hope, it is the quintessential human delusion, simultaneously the source of your greatest strength, and your greatest weakness.

Neo - If I were you, I would hope that we don't meet again.

The Architect - We won't


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Revolutions takes place mostly in the scorched Earth matrix btw, instead of the previous Matrix.

Revolutions Traliers:
Revolutiosn Trailer 1

Revolutiosn Trailer 2

[Samus Aran]

Let's see this script you claim to have read.

[soulfly24]

i knew it! everything you said is what i tried to figure out. I wrote some notes to myself to try and make sense of the movie. here is what i had written. It's pretty close to what you described as being the reality.

my matrix theory.

1) Neo is a program
"The One" is an anomoly in the matrix. It's a remainder of a calculation that cannot be figured out by the creator. Since they can predict that this will occur, but not where, the creator has taken special precautions to ensure that the one will be controlled and eliminated. having the one return to the source, gives the creator of the matrix information that he needs to revise the matrix to (in this case) version 7. However, Neo did not return like the previoius six, so we don't know what type of effect this will have yet. This will probably lead to the downfall of the machines. How will this happen? who knows

2) Multiple Matrixes
The matrix and zion are 2 sperate realities used by the machines to keep the humans in check. as the architech stated, 99% of the humans accept the realworld matrix, the other 1% reject it. It wouldn't make sense to have those people escape and live a normal life. Reasons for this? how would they live? The sky is scorched, meaning no sun can get to the earth. Without the sun, it would be extremely cold. Food would be non-existant, no animals, no fruits, no plants. Why is it so hard to believe that there are 2 matrixes. it would be easy for the machines to have 2 seperate systems running and if one choice was rejected,they could just swap them to the "real world" and they would believe they were free, but really just networked over to the 2nd matrix.

3) Agent Smith
Also a program used to deter the one. His programming makes him believe that his purpose is to destroy the one, when in reality, it's just to force "the one" into making the right decisions to get back to the source. However, during the battle with neo, neo somehow spliced code together when flying through to "destroy" Smith. This caused an unusual reaction with Smith's programming. He was supposed to go destroy himself, but since he had a taste of being human and having "choice" he decided to "choose" not to destroy himself. Basically, he became a mutation or virus that will help become the downfall of the machines. This also explains why he was able to enter "the real world" matrix, by infecting the code of the fellow (forget his name) he took over.

4) Destruction of Zion
Still haven't figure out why this is. Humans do not physcially reproduce. They are created from the machines. Probably using a technique as cloning or test tubing. As for why Zion is destroyed, it is probably nothng more than clearing the cache. The real world matrix is no doubt huge. Zion are the small number of people who reject the matrix. WHile maintining 2 matrixes shouldn't be diffcult for machines, why waste the extra energy? every one hundered years, they spare 27 people to keep DNA from to further "grow" humans, the rest are terminated, clearing the cache and providing a good nights dinner for the machines as for how no one remembers any of the previous "the ones" that survive, i can't explain, but probably an easy way to hack people's memories and reset them. They have no actual memories, just what they think they know.

[TheColdEquations]

Not that I think you are lying Warrik, but before Matrix 2 came out I saw like 5 'genuine' scripts for that all turned out to be wrong in some way or another.

Anyway nothing the script revealed is something that you couldnt figure out from the trailer for Matrix 3 except that the 'real world' is another matrix, which has already been speculated on.

[Warrik]

Originally posted by TheColdEquations
Not that I think you are lying Warrik, but before Matrix 2 came out I saw like 5 'genuine' scripts for that all turned out to be wrong in some way or another.

Anyway nothing the script revealed is something that you couldnt figure out from the trailer for Matrix 3 except that the 'real world' is another matrix, which has already been speculated on.

You could be right, the script I read was on www.keanuweb.com. Its no longer on there now however. It was the screenplay for Matrix:Revolutions.


We shall see.

[Warrik]

by infecting the code of the fellow (forget his name) he took over.

His name was Bane.

[Oakman]

it ends tonight.


god that fight better kick some ass cubed

[Cybsled]

I somehow dont think your script was real ;p

[Samus Aran]

Originally posted by Warrik
You could be right, the script I read was on www.keanuweb.com. Its no longer on there now however. It was the screenplay for Matrix:Revolutions.


We shall see.

You didn't download it?

[Warrik]

It was hosted. I got the tip form this site:

Click here for more Matrix threads than you can handle.

[Kaylum]

The "real world" isnt the real world, its another layer of the Matrix. Neo discovers this after his talk with the architect. Its called the Scorched Earth Matrix.

they could have been lying but the wachowski brothers have denied "the matrix in a matrix" idea in several interviews stating "it would be too simplistic and not rewarding".

most of the (now proven) fake scripts for reloaded contained referance to a matrix within a matrix.

anyway, i guess we'll have to wait for revolutions to find out; but it seems like just another fake script to me.

[Zzod]

I, too, have heard numerous reports that both the Whacker brothers and actors in the movie have both stated that there is no matrix within a matrix scenario in the movie.

[Mixtilplix]

I, too, have heard numerous reports that both the Whacker brothers and actors in the movie have both stated that there is no matrix within a matrix scenario in the movie.

You know everyone keeps saying that the actors/directors/whatever have denied there being a matrix within a matrix plot however I have yet to see an interview with these declarations at all. Anyone care to point me towards one?

[Dethfang]

But it's not a matrix within a matrix... its a matrix next to a matrix.... oh the wonderful world of semantics and technicalities

[Suineg]

Scorched Earth Matrix

That sounds a little fishy to me like fake.

Who remembers playing the game 'Scorched Earth' ?