Possible RoTK Spoiler (you´ve been warned)

[Castigator]

Witchking seems not climatic enough´for Peter Jackson.

If that guy from Theonering.net is reliable, we´re going to get an Aragon vs. Sauron showdown before the end:

ROTK Spoilers! Saruman, Grima & SAURON News!
Xoanon @ 12:31 pm EST
Angelus is not a new spy to us, he/she has sent along information and we KNOW she/he has insider contacts from all over the biz. Take a look at what he has to say, some interesting bits of info that I know some of you will hate to hear. Plus that spikey wheel returns (I cannot WAIT until I prove all you non-spikey wheel people wrong...we posted that story YEARS ago!). Anyways, as always take all this with a grain of salt, but know that this didn't come from a random fanboy....it has cred.

I have a friend who told me about Return of the King, first thing, Sauron will be standing off against Aragorn in hand to hand combat.

Men of Gondor surround them both and Legolas shouts "Aragorn!" as a warning, then Aragorn with Anduril in hand rushes the Dark Lord who looked like he was in different armor than when we saw him in the prologue. It is not an even fight and Aragorn is nearly knocked to death as the countdown to the destruction of the ring begins. I guess the goal is to make the audience wonder if the ring will be destroyed before Aragorn is smeared all over Mordor!

Another thing I saw was the death of Saruman. Grima slits Saruman's throat and kicks him over the edge of Orthanc where he is impaled on the wheel, then Legolas shoots an arrow high into the air and is laughed at by Grima as it soars over his head, as Grima is mocking the seemingly inaccurate Legolas the arrow comes spiraling down straight through Grima's skull!

Don´t tell me it doesn´t make much sense since Sauron is more or less incorporal at that time, its just some funny thing I found...

[Camu]

that would make this movie even more disapointing that TTT was :-(

[Dokomo]

I don't like it but it makes sense. Replace Sauron's Lieutenant with Sauron at the final battle and bam, history repeats itself, ableit much more poorly for the alliance.

[Zanoan]

I been looking quite forward for the battle at The Black Gate with Sauron's Mouth (his lieutenant) and Gandalf etc. etc.

As someone already replied, replacing wouldn't make much sense imo.

[Cybsled]

Some of the scenes seem too violent for a PG-13 as well. Headshots vs. a human (even a wormy one) pretty much = R rating. To speak nothing of slitting throats.

As for Sauron...well, I can kinda see how they could explain it. They could have the proximity of the one ring to Sauron's spirit somehow allow him to manifest himself (Frodo n' Sam approaching Mt. Doom). I think whether or not the Witchking = the final fight will depend alot on how they portray Frodo's capture.

You have to admit it might make the fight a bit more grand and make the trilogy seem more rounded to your average audience member (Starts with Sauron fight...ends with one). Although personally I'd prefer a more book oriented outcome...it will still be a good action scene regardless of which undead badass they put in.

[Zignor]

The Mouth of Sauron is cast and is in the film. He's not being "replaced" by Sauron himself.

As for seeing Sauron in a more "physical" form in RoTK, well, Jackson has been saying that for a while. I don't know if I buy the bit about the standoff between Sauron and Aragorn, though.

Grima killing Saruman at Isengard is very likely, since there's not going to be a Scouring in the film.

[Zanoan]

I think they cut out the Scouring stuff in the Shire

[Diakonov]

any numbers being thrown around as to how long its going to be?

I will truely be disappointed if they do not put in the departure of Elrond, Gandalf, Frodo, Galadriel at the end.

I think i remember this from the director's commentary from FotR, something about how it starts with Galadriel speaking and ends? shrug

[Castigator]

Well, it is entirely possible that the fight between Aragorn and Sauron that the Spoiler mentions is in fact a fight between Aragorn and the Mouth of Sauron.

At least I hope it is

As to Sauron´s Mouth, the actor likely wont be seen behind all his armor and make-up, but still, anyone remember this guy?



/chuckle

[Searyx]

The bum from Mad Max: The Road Warrior is gonna play Sauron?

[Castigator]

The bum from Mad Max: The Road Warrior is gonna play Sauron?

Not quite..
The bum from Mad Max: The Road Warrior is gonna play the Mouth of Sauron.


A tall and evil shape, mounted upon a black horse...The rider was robed all in black, and black was his lofty helm; yet this was no Ringwraith but a living man."
-- Return of the King (J.R.R.Tolkien)

At least in the book thats the guy that commands Sauron´s Army at the Gates of Mordor after the Witchking gets Backstabbed by Merry on the Pelenor Fields.

A line he gets in the book:
"It needs more to make a king than a piece of elvish glass, or a rabble such as this."

So that might, in my opinion, be the battle that spoiler above describes. At least I hope it is.