Two Towers Observation/Question

Murr · 01-05-2003, 05:44 PM

In the dead marshes, Frodo awakes and speaks with Gollum, calling him Smeagol for the first time, etc.
As he walks over, Smeagol/Gollum is uttering something and I want to know the exact phrase, was curious if anyone else caught it/understood the whole thing.
Was something along the lines of..
"They know not what lies ahead when sun has faded and moon is dead."
(Sun being Minas Tirith(Once Minas Anor, Tower of the Sun), and Minas Morgul(once Minas Ithil, Tower of the Moon)..)

Tristinn · 01-05-2003, 06:15 PM

Gollum: "Cold be heart and hand and bone. And called be travellers far from home. "

Frodo: "He said your life was was a sad story."

Gollum: "They do not see what lies ahead when sun has failed and moon is dead."

Dunno what it means though. Is it from the book?

The Insider · 01-05-2003, 09:56 PM

More than likely has to do with towers Anor and Ithil but i dont think you can read much more into it than what you see.

I'll think about it some more...maybe something will reveal itself ;0

PsykloneStrykz · 01-06-2003, 02:10 AM

it's a hell of a lot funnier when he's at the forbidden pool where Faramir sets Frodo/Smegal up....The dipping pool / is nice and cool / so juicy sweeeeeet! or something along those lines, THAT's What i want the whole script from =) please, if anyone knows this, post it!

Awanka · 01-06-2003, 04:39 AM

I know Gollum liked to talk in riddles and rhymes, but I don't think it ever got to the point where he was rapping, granted my memory of the books is a bit fuzzy.

The Insider · 01-06-2003, 06:54 AM

The cold hard lands
they bites our hands,
they gnaws at our feet.
The rocks and stones
are like old bones
all bare of meet.
But stream and pool
is wet and cool:
so nice for feet!
And now we wish----- Insert here "Alive without breath" fish story

Comes from The Taming of Smeagol...so yes its in the book,just at a different point

Tristinn · 01-06-2003, 11:16 AM

Gollum: "Rock and pool is nice and cool, so juicy sweeeet. I only wish to catch a fish, so juicy sweeeeet!"

Script - Lots of quotes in there.

Jobrill · 01-09-2003, 12:09 AM

The whole "cold be hand and heart and bone" which I remember hearing right before he went into the fish rhyme, I think is adapted from the Chant of the Barrow-wight from the Barrowdowns in the first book (Which Jackson didn't include).

Eomer · 01-09-2003, 07:24 AM

I just read that part last night, and it occurred to me that it was sort of similar. But only one line really.

01-05-2003, 05:44 PM	#1 (permalink)
Murr Token Gnome Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Chapel Hill, NC Posts: 1,781 +8 Internets	Two Towers Observation/Question In the dead marshes, Frodo awakes and speaks with Gollum, calling him Smeagol for the first time, etc. As he walks over, Smeagol/Gollum is uttering something and I want to know the exact phrase, was curious if anyone else caught it/understood the whole thing. Was something along the lines of.. "They know not what lies ahead when sun has faded and moon is dead." (Sun being Minas Tirith(Once Minas Anor, Tower of the Sun), and Minas Morgul(once Minas Ithil, Tower of the Moon)..)

01-05-2003, 06:15 PM	#2 (permalink)
Tristinn In Tyler we Trust Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: n. korea Posts: 412 -10 Internets	Gollum: "Cold be heart and hand and bone. And called be travellers far from home. " Frodo: "He said your life was was a sad story." Gollum: "They do not see what lies ahead when sun has failed and moon is dead." Dunno what it means though. Is it from the book? __________________ Fuck You, I'm Eating.

01-06-2003, 02:10 AM	#4 (permalink)
PsykloneStrykz Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: SoCal Posts: 14 +0 Internets	it's a hell of a lot funnier when he's at the forbidden pool where Faramir sets Frodo/Smegal up....The dipping pool / is nice and cool / so juicy sweeeeeet! or something along those lines, THAT's What i want the whole script from =) please, if anyone knows this, post it! __________________ Psyklone Juggernaut Monk of The Lost Circle 53rd Season 200Alcohol Tolerance

01-06-2003, 11:16 AM	#7 (permalink)
Tristinn In Tyler we Trust Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: n. korea Posts: 412 -10 Internets	Gollum: "Rock and pool is nice and cool, so juicy sweeeet. I only wish to catch a fish, so juicy sweeeeet!" Script - Lots of quotes in there. __________________ Fuck You, I'm Eating.

01-09-2003, 12:09 AM	#8 (permalink)
Jobrill Mouth of Sauron Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 56 -1 Internets	The whole "cold be hand and heart and bone" which I remember hearing right before he went into the fish rhyme, I think is adapted from the Chant of the Barrow-wight from the Barrowdowns in the first book (Which Jackson didn't include). __________________ EQ1: Jobrill, Erudite Shadowknight, Luclin (Ret.) WoW: Enabrin, Night Elf Druid, Cenarion Circle

01-05-2003, 09:56 PM	#3 (permalink)
The Insider 30+ D: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: inside Posts: 261 -1 Internets	More than likely has to do with towers Anor and Ithil but i dont think you can read much more into it than what you see. I'll think about it some more...maybe something will reveal itself ;0

01-06-2003, 04:39 AM	#5 (permalink)
Awanka Seething with dark power and -internets Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,748 -55 Internets	I know Gollum liked to talk in riddles and rhymes, but I don't think it ever got to the point where he was rapping, granted my memory of the books is a bit fuzzy.

01-06-2003, 06:54 AM	#6 (permalink)
The Insider 30+ D: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: inside Posts: 261 -1 Internets	The cold hard lands they bites our hands, they gnaws at our feet. The rocks and stones are like old bones all bare of meet. But stream and pool is wet and cool: so nice for feet! And now we wish----- Insert here "Alive without breath" fish story Comes from The Taming of Smeagol...so yes its in the book,just at a different point

01-09-2003, 07:24 AM	#9 (permalink)
Eomer You mean I can change this? Neat! Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 9,770 +26 Internets	I just read that part last night, and it occurred to me that it was sort of similar. But only one line really.

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