new Star Trek movie : Nemesis... - Page 3

Bumbaz · 12-02-2002, 09:12 AM

Back to the topic at hand, I hear Nemesis is quite good. From what I have heard its back to feeling like a MOVIE and not an extended TV episode like the last few movies. It was finally written by someone who makes movies (the person also wrote Gladiator and a few other big movies) and is directed by a movie director and not one of the episode directors who got a shot at a movie. Yes he hasn't done anything way groovy (US Marshalls and Executive Decission) but at least those movies didn't use that crap gen X quick cut style.

Anyhoo, I'm not much of a Star Trek series fan, I just enjoyed the movies, and hopefully this is a return of those MOVIE stories and not crappy extended episodes, I can't wait.

Keed · 12-02-2002, 10:22 AM

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This thread makes me yearn for an Extended Universe Star Wars tv show. *cry*

Tim Zahn as writer, and someone else for director would make me a happy Star Wars Geek.

Yes please.

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Voyager took things WAY too far with the introduction of an "uber," Borg-killing race (Species 32985363465 or whatever) -- which, in my opinion, signaled just how low the series could go. The Borg were SO cool when they were mysterious, cold, and virtually unstoppable. Voyager turned them, and nearly the Star Trek franchise, into utter trash.

Species 8472 kthx.

TNG > all

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***SPOILER INFO***

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If the rumors are correct, two crew members are supposed to die in Nemesis. According to some fan sites, those two are Data and Deanna Troi. Troi may or may not die in the end, but Data certainly does. He is replaced by B4, a prototype android 'clone' of himself.

OMG MILLIE HAS LEET BETA INFOZ!!111!~

Iannis · 12-02-2002, 11:23 AM

Duncan Mcleod will NEVER be as good as connor! NEVER!
er, I mean, B4 will NEVER be as good as Data!

...I would've figured Picard would be the other one to get killed. Hell, the last movie basically ONLY featured him...no picard = no more tng!

alas for the days when star treks nerds argued over how in episode 89A the exploding phaser shoock the entire enterprise, yet CLEARLY in episode 167-C and exploding phaser didn't even damage the surrounding carpet!!!

T'Pal has big boobies indeed, though.

fibbynux · 12-02-2002, 12:15 PM

There was a Wesley Crusher scene filmed for the movie but was edited from the final cut because of time constraints. As with many films the first cut was to long and the Wesley scene wasn't essential to the plot.

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wil wheaton = wanker

The Wil Wheaton bashing is so tired. Never really cared for the character but the person is a different story all together. He was a 14 year old kid. I wouldn't think he got much say into what they did with his character.

Schezanna · 12-02-2002, 01:09 PM

T'Pal is played by Jolene Blaylock(sp?). Personally, I like this character a lot more than 7 of 9. Probably because Vulcans are more dynamic characters than Borg, though it could be that Jolene Blaylock is a better actress than Jeri Ryan. I forget the name of the books, but there were a couple that went into some very excellent history of the Vulcan species, outlining the transformation from a volatile splintered culture to the logic loving one that made first contact with earth and joined the Federation.

And yes, Millie has l33+ beta infoz. Millie == Smedley la~

Millie · 12-02-2002, 05:11 PM

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Originally posted by fibbynux
The Wil Wheaton bashing is so tired. Never really cared for the character but the person is a different story all together. He was a 14 year old kid. I wouldn't think he got much say into what they did with his character.

Agreed. Wesley Crusher may have been a homo, but that doesn't mean Wil Wheaton deserves the credit for his character's crappiness. Wil was a child actor when TNG was made, and I doubt he had any creative input whatsoever as far as characterization or plot were concerned. He was just working with the lines he was given.

Let's not forget that Wil Wheaton rocked in Stand By Me, which is one of the best movies of the 80s. I can forgive him Wesley Crusher if only for the sake of that one movie.

Southern · 12-02-2002, 10:08 PM

the scary thing though, is that wil wheaton has a weblog...(wilwheaton.com maybe? dont want to be pegged as someone who knows the actual address so wont look it up and post it!)

and a frightening amount of 20something women had/have crushes on him. how can a person like me compete?!!!!

southern

fibbynux · 12-03-2002, 12:37 AM

It's wilwheaton.net and I read it everyday. That's how I learned about the cut scene from Nemesis. It's your run of the mill weblog except it's about Wil Wheaton. Alot of it has dealt with coming to terms growing up a child star and the massive backlash people directed towards him as a person based solely on his TNG character. He was being brutalized by rabid Star Trek fans at a young age. It's a fantastic read he is an awesome writer and tells great stories. I'd highly reccomend checking it out.

Iannis · 12-03-2002, 02:18 PM

I think punching him in the head for playing wesley crusher isn't quite sane...

but i stand by my original statement! There's something about only putting one L in Will that makes it...unnatural.

fibbynux · 12-03-2002, 02:40 PM

Shoulda clarified more not brutalized physicaly.

gn0me · 12-03-2002, 06:48 PM

The only thing Voyager had going for it was The Doctor. Watching his progression from the typical hologram in the early episodes to a full fledged crewman who was nearly human in the later episodes was pretty cool IMO. Awesome character development if you ask me and much better done than Data in ST:TNG.

Angrier · 12-03-2002, 07:41 PM

Data is definetly my favorite ST character (am I going crazy? Character?) Anyway, those morphing dudes in DS9 > all

12-02-2002, 09:12 AM	#31 (permalink)
Bumbaz Enjoyer of Movies! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Porltand, OR Posts: 124 -1 Internets	Back to the topic at hand, I hear Nemesis is quite good. From what I have heard its back to feeling like a MOVIE and not an extended TV episode like the last few movies. It was finally written by someone who makes movies (the person also wrote Gladiator and a few other big movies) and is directed by a movie director and not one of the episode directors who got a shot at a movie. Yes he hasn't done anything way groovy (US Marshalls and Executive Decission) but at least those movies didn't use that crap gen X quick cut style. Anyhoo, I'm not much of a Star Trek series fan, I just enjoyed the movies, and hopefully this is a return of those MOVIE stories and not crappy extended episodes, I can't wait. __________________ Bumbaz Tanx RETIRED Dakin Drayklore RETIRED Saore Drayklore RETIRED Sturmx Brightblade RETIRED

12-03-2002, 06:48 PM	#41 (permalink)
gn0me so much h8 Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Portland, Ore. Posts: 1,038 -7 Internets	The only thing Voyager had going for it was The Doctor. Watching his progression from the typical hologram in the early episodes to a full fledged crewman who was nearly human in the later episodes was pretty cool IMO. Awesome character development if you ask me and much better done than Data in ST:TNG. __________________ The Gnome of Own

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12-02-2002, 11:23 AM	#33 (permalink)
Iannis Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Butt Hugging Moose Jockey Posts: 4,968 +0 Internets	Duncan Mcleod will NEVER be as good as connor! NEVER! er, I mean, B4 will NEVER be as good as Data! ...I would've figured Picard would be the other one to get killed. Hell, the last movie basically ONLY featured him...no picard = no more tng! alas for the days when star treks nerds argued over how in episode 89A the exploding phaser shoock the entire enterprise, yet CLEARLY in episode 167-C and exploding phaser didn't even damage the surrounding carpet!!! T'Pal has big boobies indeed, though.

12-02-2002, 01:09 PM	#35 (permalink)
Schezanna Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 270	T'Pal is played by Jolene Blaylock(sp?). Personally, I like this character a lot more than 7 of 9. Probably because Vulcans are more dynamic characters than Borg, though it could be that Jolene Blaylock is a better actress than Jeri Ryan. I forget the name of the books, but there were a couple that went into some very excellent history of the Vulcan species, outlining the transformation from a volatile splintered culture to the logic loving one that made first contact with earth and joined the Federation. And yes, Millie has l33+ beta infoz. Millie == Smedley la~

12-02-2002, 10:08 PM	#37 (permalink)
Southern Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 82 -1 Internets	the scary thing though, is that wil wheaton has a weblog...(wilwheaton.com maybe? dont want to be pegged as someone who knows the actual address so wont look it up and post it!) and a frightening amount of 20something women had/have crushes on him. how can a person like me compete?!!!! southern

12-03-2002, 12:37 AM	#38 (permalink)
fibbynux Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 17 -1 Internets	It's wilwheaton.net and I read it everyday. That's how I learned about the cut scene from Nemesis. It's your run of the mill weblog except it's about Wil Wheaton. Alot of it has dealt with coming to terms growing up a child star and the massive backlash people directed towards him as a person based solely on his TNG character. He was being brutalized by rabid Star Trek fans at a young age. It's a fantastic read he is an awesome writer and tells great stories. I'd highly reccomend checking it out.

12-03-2002, 02:18 PM	#39 (permalink)
Iannis Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Butt Hugging Moose Jockey Posts: 4,968 +0 Internets	I think punching him in the head for playing wesley crusher isn't quite sane... but i stand by my original statement! There's something about only putting one L in Will that makes it...unnatural.

12-03-2002, 02:40 PM	#40 (permalink)
fibbynux Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 17 -1 Internets	Shoulda clarified more not brutalized physicaly.

12-03-2002, 07:41 PM	#42 (permalink)
Angrier Banned Join Date: May 2002 Location: Your mom's house Posts: 758 +0 Internets	Data is definetly my favorite ST character (am I going crazy? Character?) Anyway, those morphing dudes in DS9 > all