Bad movies that could have been a lot better - Page 2

Keed · 11-23-2002, 10:05 PM

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Originally posted by somecleric
All of the actors in Star Wars 1 & 2 sucked, not just Hayden Christiensen. George Lucas couldn't get a good performance out of Robert De Niro or Vincent D'Onofrio.

Personally I think Obi-Wan gave some good acting in this movie. Dooku was believable as a sinister villan yet all the craptacular crap around him lessened it greatly.

X-Men. They fucked this movie up. What a reject-ass film to slap the X-Men title too. That faggot isn't Wolverine by a long shit. He had a deep raspy voice, build like a wild animal, with personality and actions to go with it. Storm.. Give me a fucking break. We need some fucking Rogue/Gambit/Colossus beatdown shit. Cyclops.. meh, could've been better. BTW Patrick Stewart kicks ass.

Mioshi · 11-24-2002, 12:57 AM

You have to admit though that the people in the new star wars cant compare to well with the old. At least they had personalities and didnt all sound like droids...

I think its fair to say that Samuel L. Jackson is not a bad actor but he didnt even do so great in those movies. His performance was much like a kid who just got a part in a school play.

ShamusChad · 11-24-2002, 03:18 AM

The problem with the new Star Wars is this...

The original Star Wars created a universe..with character and a dignity of it's own...

The new Star Wars was a light show... it didn't come close to reinviting me to the world created in the original trilogy.

Szlia · 11-24-2002, 03:34 AM

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The director (forget the name) directs cheese-ball action movies

That would be John Woo, who also happens to be the single most influential action movie director of the last decade :P But it is true that the Windtalkers is very perfectible to say the least.

Keed · 11-24-2002, 04:29 AM

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Originally posted by Szlia
That would be John Woo, who also happens to be the single most influential action movie director of the last decade :P But it is true that the Windtalkers is very perfectible to say the least.

Ya dude. MI:2 rocked..

Nanaki Ikanan · 11-24-2002, 04:33 AM

AI...it...just...SUCKED.

I mean, seriously. The movie had a few interesting ideas, but it was...well, sucky.

But I think it was the ending that ruined it for me. If the kid would have stayed frozen it would have been MUCH better...but right now, AI is one of my most unfavorite movies of all time.

off_world · 11-24-2002, 09:52 AM

A.I. Terrible movie! Steven was channeling Stanley Kubrick way too much!! A well made movie, but I just could not stand it. By the end I could care less about the boy robot. I wanted someone just to put him out of his misery!!

Windtalkers This is a movie that could have been outstanding. I think they could have picked a better actor then Nicholas Cage. John Woo is a pretty good director but this movie seemed too formulaic for him. We learned little about the code talkers and witnessed more battle sequences which were unnecessary.

Unbreakable I agree with the previous post on this. They build you up to the last five minutes then it is over. WTF?!

Mission to Mars Shit sandwich!

The following is NOT a bad movie, but a line in the movie I wished would have happened:

Gladiator Now, I loved this movie, but there was a line in it that made me excited but it never happened. I felt it was a let down. Don’t flame me for posting this movie, because I think it is one of the best movies ever made. The line in question was when Maximus was talking to some peeps about raising an army to attack Rome. When I heard that, a shiver ran down my spine. What an awesome sequence that would have been!!! He exacts revenge but destroying Rome!! But, alas, it never happened. To me that would have been some epic battle.

Grimmlokk · 11-24-2002, 11:14 AM

Couldn't *all* bad movies be a lot better? Not as if it's hard to improve on something bad=P

Rented the Clone DVD. Discovered that it's a much better movie if you just skip through all the Anikan + Amedala(sp?) ham-fisted romance crap.

Iannis · 11-24-2002, 12:07 PM

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Originally posted by Keed

Personally I think Obi-Wan gave some good acting in this movie. Dooku was believable as a sinister villan yet all the craptacular crap around him lessened it greatly.

Obi-Wan is cool. if episode 2 had more of him and less of the BS love story it would have been a bit better. As for Dooku(Christopher Lee)...that man just plain LOOKS evil. A lot like how Tim Curry had one of the best "evil dude" voices, he has one of the best faces. I can't imagine a better Saruman.

They're re-releasing The Last Unicorn again in 2004, it looks like. KING HAGGARD!!!

Southern · 11-24-2002, 01:08 PM

x-men was about as good as it possibly could be considering what they had to work with...introducing that many characters in one movie is a nightmare...a movie like that just cant possibly be good, until you see more about them...(think how bad the first star trek would be if they had to introduce us to spock, kirk, bones etc all in that movie...too much characterization to be done!! but we'd already seen the TV show, so they didnt have to really)

now the sequel shows some real promise of actually being a good movie...most of the characterization is done (they assume we've seen the first one) so they can get down to a real storyline. looks like its going to be some serious government vs mutant action, check out the trailer they showed at the comicon, certainly looks better then the first movie already, check it out:

http://www.apple.com/trailers/fox/x2...con/large.html

southern

Samus Aran · 11-24-2002, 01:40 PM

Xmen 2 looks fairly impressive I must say.

Zanoan · 11-24-2002, 01:52 PM

The Time Machine

Xaen · 11-24-2002, 02:15 PM

I have to disagree with X-Men .. My friends and myself grew up reading XMen and every other Marvel comic and we all felt that they got Wolverine so spot on perfect that we had to pick our jaws off the floor when the movie was over. His look, his voice, attitude, everything.. It was drilled home when he hit the turbo on the bike scene. Cemented him as the character. The rest of the movie felt more like an introduction, which was okay. It's not a movie i'll watch over and over, but when they have more than a few of them available, it'll be good to watch in the series.

Ishrafael · 11-24-2002, 09:57 PM

God, Time Machine... That movie could have been excellent. The Split-Morloch evolution concept was fascinating. The special effects were decent -- for some reason, it just didn't burn in like the 1960's version did.

Go with the book. H.G. Wells wrote this story a few years before 1900. Fascinating individual. Good book.

Hmm, is it nearly time for a remake of "War of the Worlds"?

If they did a translation from book to Movie nearly as well as LoTR, then these movies would keep us from normal sleep.

Anuin · 11-24-2002, 11:35 PM

The one. The scene where he kicks the shit out of like 8 police guys and they're all half dead before the first one hits the floor was so freaking cool. Now if only that wasnt the only scence where Jet Li moves that fast. So much potential, all of it wasted.

11-24-2002, 12:57 AM	#17 (permalink)
Mioshi Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 13 -1 Internets	Star wars You have to admit though that the people in the new star wars cant compare to well with the old. At least they had personalities and didnt all sound like droids... I think its fair to say that Samuel L. Jackson is not a bad actor but he didnt even do so great in those movies. His performance was much like a kid who just got a part in a school play.

11-24-2002, 09:52 AM	#22 (permalink)
off_world Destroyer of Worlds Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Phobos Posts: 204 +1 Internets	A.I. Terrible movie! Steven was channeling Stanley Kubrick way too much!! A well made movie, but I just could not stand it. By the end I could care less about the boy robot. I wanted someone just to put him out of his misery!! Windtalkers This is a movie that could have been outstanding. I think they could have picked a better actor then Nicholas Cage. John Woo is a pretty good director but this movie seemed too formulaic for him. We learned little about the code talkers and witnessed more battle sequences which were unnecessary. Unbreakable I agree with the previous post on this. They build you up to the last five minutes then it is over. WTF?! Mission to Mars Shit sandwich! The following is NOT a bad movie, but a line in the movie I wished would have happened: Gladiator Now, I loved this movie, but there was a line in it that made me excited but it never happened. I felt it was a let down. Don’t flame me for posting this movie, because I think it is one of the best movies ever made. The line in question was when Maximus was talking to some peeps about raising an army to attack Rome. When I heard that, a shiver ran down my spine. What an awesome sequence that would have been!!! He exacts revenge but destroying Rome!! But, alas, it never happened. To me that would have been some epic battle. __________________ "So do all who live to see such times. But that is not for you to decide. All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you." - Gandalf "I NOW INFORM YOU THAT YOU ARE TOO FAR FROM REALITY." - Mohammed Saeed al-Sahaf 53rd Paladin of Brell, Krathur Hawkwind (Winner's Circle)

11-24-2002, 11:14 AM	#23 (permalink)
Grimmlokk Unlicensed Vaginoplasty Surgeon Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 3,666 +10 Internets	Couldn't all bad movies be a lot better? Not as if it's hard to improve on something bad=P Rented the Clone DVD. Discovered that it's a much better movie if you just skip through all the Anikan + Amedala(sp?) ham-fisted romance crap. __________________ "The eyes are the groin of the face"

11-24-2002, 01:52 PM	#27 (permalink)
Zanoan I wish I was queer, so I could get chicks Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Denmark Posts: 1,868 -4 Internets	., The Time Machine

11-24-2002, 09:57 PM	#29 (permalink)
Ishrafael Banned Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 38 +0 Internets	Oh... God, Time Machine... That movie could have been excellent. The Split-Morloch evolution concept was fascinating. The special effects were decent -- for some reason, it just didn't burn in like the 1960's version did. Go with the book. H.G. Wells wrote this story a few years before 1900. Fascinating individual. Good book. Hmm, is it nearly time for a remake of "War of the Worlds"? If they did a translation from book to Movie nearly as well as LoTR, then these movies would keep us from normal sleep.

11-24-2002, 03:18 AM	#18 (permalink)
ShamusChad Limey Bastard~ Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 721 -8 Internets	The problem with the new Star Wars is this... The original Star Wars created a universe..with character and a dignity of it's own... The new Star Wars was a light show... it didn't come close to reinviting me to the world created in the original trilogy.

11-24-2002, 04:33 AM	#21 (permalink)
Nanaki Ikanan Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 461 -1 Internets	AI...it...just...SUCKED. I mean, seriously. The movie had a few interesting ideas, but it was...well, sucky. But I think it was the ending that ruined it for me. If the kid would have stayed frozen it would have been MUCH better...but right now, AI is one of my most unfavorite movies of all time.

11-24-2002, 01:08 PM	#25 (permalink)
Southern Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 82 -1 Internets	x-men was about as good as it possibly could be considering what they had to work with...introducing that many characters in one movie is a nightmare...a movie like that just cant possibly be good, until you see more about them...(think how bad the first star trek would be if they had to introduce us to spock, kirk, bones etc all in that movie...too much characterization to be done!! but we'd already seen the TV show, so they didnt have to really) now the sequel shows some real promise of actually being a good movie...most of the characterization is done (they assume we've seen the first one) so they can get down to a real storyline. looks like its going to be some serious government vs mutant action, check out the trailer they showed at the comicon, certainly looks better then the first movie already, check it out: http://www.apple.com/trailers/fox/x2...con/large.html southern

11-24-2002, 01:40 PM	#26 (permalink)
Samus Aran Sons of the Storm Heal Bitch Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 771 +2 Internets	Xmen 2 looks fairly impressive I must say.

11-24-2002, 02:15 PM	#28 (permalink)
Xaen Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 889 +0 Internets	I have to disagree with X-Men .. My friends and myself grew up reading XMen and every other Marvel comic and we all felt that they got Wolverine so spot on perfect that we had to pick our jaws off the floor when the movie was over. His look, his voice, attitude, everything.. It was drilled home when he hit the turbo on the bike scene. Cemented him as the character. The rest of the movie felt more like an introduction, which was okay. It's not a movie i'll watch over and over, but when they have more than a few of them available, it'll be good to watch in the series.

11-24-2002, 11:35 PM	#30 (permalink)
Anuin Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 41 -1 Internets	The one. The scene where he kicks the shit out of like 8 police guys and they're all half dead before the first one hits the floor was so freaking cool. Now if only that wasnt the only scence where Jet Li moves that fast. So much potential, all of it wasted.

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