Heath Ledgers Joker: Oscar Worthy or Hype? - Page 5

Malakriss · 07-20-2008, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Leid

Did anyone else get tired of how annoying Christian Bale sounded while speaking as Batman?

"I CAN'T LET THAT HAPPEN," Batman said, sounding gruff like he was shitting while having gay phone sex.

Perhaps he should try less and just use his own voice, so everyone and their mother can recognize Bruce Wayne's voice, no?

Your complaint is on the same level of stupid that Superman with glasses is unrecognizable as Clark Kent

EmpireF4i · 07-20-2008, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Leid

Did anyone else get tired of how annoying Christian Bale sounded while speaking as Batman?

"I CAN'T LET THAT HAPPEN," Batman said, sounding gruff like he was shitting while having gay phone sex.

No, I dont know what gay phone sex sounds like. Tell me.

Desidero · 07-20-2008, 03:32 PM

Yeah, the weird voice Batman uses was kind of annoying, but I guess he has to hide that he's Bruce Wayne by doing it.

As for the Oscar, I voted yes, but I don't really think he'll win. To clarify, I went into the film expecting the stuff to be way overhyped and I was tired of people giving him praise "just because he was dead". I thought First Knight sucked hard (We Will Rock You? What the fuck?) despite my fascination with everything medieval, and had no respect for him as a result. The Patriot was disappointing since it was basically the same thing as Braveheart, but a different war, so it was hard to appreciate anything in the film. It probably would've been cool if Braveheart didn't come out first. I didn't see Brokeback Mountain for various reasons (heard it was shitty from females who usually love that type of stuff, don't care to see gay guys messing around, didn't like that it got so much praise just because of the gay thing, etc), so I can't comment on that one. However, his role in Batman really blew me away. I was truly amazed at how well he performed the role. He didn't even seem like himself.

Characters in that type of role don't get awards very often. Borderline-indy, holocaust/Jewish, artsy, and extremely liberal films pretty much always walk away with the awards. I don't even watch the Oscars anymore - they're such a sham.

Twobit Whore · 07-20-2008, 05:07 PM

It was definitely forced sounding, which of course it was. It only came out when he had extended dialogue. In short bursts its fine, but several sentences in a row sounded a bit awkward. Of course he needs to disguise his voice some, but that was a bit extreme.

Leid · 07-20-2008, 05:25 PM

I said it was annoying, not that he should use his regular speaking voice. I agree with it sounding forced, Twobit. It made me laugh a couple of times when the dialogue wasn't humorous at all.

Astrocreep · 07-20-2008, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Leid

I said it was annoying, not that he should use his regular speaking voice. I agree with it sounding forced, Twobit. It made me laugh a couple of times when the dialogue wasn't humorous at all.

yeah too much dialogue made batman's the jack bauer voice sound bad. you would think he could hook up a voice manipulator device on all that hi tech kit of his

Kaige · 07-20-2008, 06:45 PM

Some Kevin Smith fans around here, so something he posted from his blog at: http://www.silentbobspeaks.com about The Dark Knight, and Heath Ledger's performance.

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Courtesy of Peter Sciretta over at SlashFilm.com, I caught an early screening of “The Dark Knight” yesterday evening.

Without giving anything away, this is an epic film (and trust me: based on the sheer size and scope of the visuals and storytelling, that’s not an overstatement). It’s the “Godfather II” of comic book films and three times more earnest than “Batman Begins” (and fuck, was that an earnest film). Easily the most adult comic book film ever made. Heath Ledger didn’t so much give a performance as he disappeared completely into the role; I know I’m not the first to suggest this, but he’ll likely get at least an Oscar nod (if not the win) for Best Supporting Actor. Fucking flick’s nearly three hours long and only leaves you wanting more (in a great way). I can’t imagine anyone being disappointed by it. Nolan and crew have created something close to a masterpiece.

Masakari · 07-20-2008, 06:53 PM

I vote yes

Arakkis · 07-20-2008, 06:55 PM

My God, what an amazing masterpiece to leave behind.

Bristlebane · 07-20-2008, 07:01 PM

It was a great movie, great character. I think he deserves a shot at the Oscar for sure.

It likely may be the best movie of the year, and thus, he has a good shot at winning.

As great as the movie and character was, it's been vastly overhyped by throngs of comic-reading nerds. I see people saying "OMG BEST CHARACTER EVER." Hardly.

Zorle · 07-21-2008, 04:07 AM

I voted he deserves to be in the running. Like many before have said his portrayal of the Joker was just fascinating and made you forget you were watching a movie it just seemed so damn real and insane. At the end I kept thinking what a damn shame he is dead after that killer performance and wont be around to grace the screens again.

Tuco · 07-21-2008, 06:15 AM

For those that think this derives from his death, there was an immense amount of hype about him before he died. Hell, there was a lot of hype surrounding the role as soon as Gordon flashed the Joker card, and once the people within the movie were acclaiming Heath's performances during filming, people were on his nuts solid.

Dethfang · 07-21-2008, 09:33 AM

I just hope there is about 3 hours of Joker outtakes on the DVD...

Jubee · 07-21-2008, 10:31 AM

Voted yes.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

Banal · 07-21-2008, 10:48 AM

Fuck the 48 dickless pieces of shit that voted no. I don't know that I've seen 5 better performances at any level. As others have pointed out, he sold the insanity with every gesture and tic. He brought out the mania, he brought out the sociopath. He even brought out the tardive dyskinesia. He dominated the screen. He didn't have a single line that fell flat.

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07-20-2008, 03:32 PM	#63 (permalink)
Desidero Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 112	Yeah, the weird voice Batman uses was kind of annoying, but I guess he has to hide that he's Bruce Wayne by doing it. As for the Oscar, I voted yes, but I don't really think he'll win. To clarify, I went into the film expecting the stuff to be way overhyped and I was tired of people giving him praise "just because he was dead". I thought First Knight sucked hard (We Will Rock You? What the fuck?) despite my fascination with everything medieval, and had no respect for him as a result. The Patriot was disappointing since it was basically the same thing as Braveheart, but a different war, so it was hard to appreciate anything in the film. It probably would've been cool if Braveheart didn't come out first. I didn't see Brokeback Mountain for various reasons (heard it was shitty from females who usually love that type of stuff, don't care to see gay guys messing around, didn't like that it got so much praise just because of the gay thing, etc), so I can't comment on that one. However, his role in Batman really blew me away. I was truly amazed at how well he performed the role. He didn't even seem like himself. Characters in that type of role don't get awards very often. Borderline-indy, holocaust/Jewish, artsy, and extremely liberal films pretty much always walk away with the awards. I don't even watch the Oscars anymore - they're such a sham. Last edited by Desidero : 07-20-2008 at 03:41 PM.

07-20-2008, 05:07 PM	#64 (permalink)
Twobit Whore Insert Quarter Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 9,427 -17 Internets	It was definitely forced sounding, which of course it was. It only came out when he had extended dialogue. In short bursts its fine, but several sentences in a row sounded a bit awkward. Of course he needs to disguise his voice some, but that was a bit extreme. __________________ I got a list of demands written on the palm of my hand. I ball my fists and you gonna know where I stand.

07-21-2008, 04:07 AM	#71 (permalink)
Zorle umm... Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: socal Posts: 69 +0 Internets	I voted he deserves to be in the running. Like many before have said his portrayal of the Joker was just fascinating and made you forget you were watching a movie it just seemed so damn real and insane. At the end I kept thinking what a damn shame he is dead after that killer performance and wont be around to grace the screens again. __________________ -Z Wii code: 2517 8085 2604 4672 360 gamertage: Ksig Raf

07-21-2008, 06:15 AM	#72 (permalink)
Tuco Santa Join Date: May 2002 Location: Detroit Posts: 8,830 +24 Internets	For those that think this derives from his death, there was an immense amount of hype about him before he died. Hell, there was a lot of hype surrounding the role as soon as Gordon flashed the Joker card, and once the people within the movie were acclaiming Heath's performances during filming, people were on his nuts solid. __________________

07-20-2008, 05:25 PM	#65 (permalink)
Leid Hey now! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Harrisburg, PA Posts: 233 +0 Internets	I said it was annoying, not that he should use his regular speaking voice. I agree with it sounding forced, Twobit. It made me laugh a couple of times when the dialogue wasn't humorous at all.

07-20-2008, 06:53 PM	#68 (permalink)
Masakari Banned Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Colorado Posts: 356	I vote yes

07-20-2008, 07:01 PM	#70 (permalink)
Bristlebane Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 1,856	It was a great movie, great character. I think he deserves a shot at the Oscar for sure. It likely may be the best movie of the year, and thus, he has a good shot at winning. As great as the movie and character was, it's been vastly overhyped by throngs of comic-reading nerds. I see people saying "OMG BEST CHARACTER EVER." Hardly.

07-21-2008, 09:33 AM	#73 (permalink)
Dethfang Watches the Watchmen Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 1,245 +43 Internets	I just hope there is about 3 hours of Joker outtakes on the DVD... __________________ Dr. Bruce Campbell

07-21-2008, 10:48 AM	#75 (permalink)
Banal Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 439 -11 Internets	Fuck the 48 dickless pieces of shit that voted no. I don't know that I've seen 5 better performances at any level. As others have pointed out, he sold the insanity with every gesture and tic. He brought out the mania, he brought out the sociopath. He even brought out the tardive dyskinesia. He dominated the screen. He didn't have a single line that fell flat.

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