Transformers : Revenge of the Fallen - Page 36

Phoenix · 07-10-2009, 08:32 PM

You know, for all the hate this movie is getting, yours has got to be the dumbest fucking reasons Ive ever read for disliking a movie.

Some of you fucktards could find someone wrong about the cubes in a glass of ice water.

Korioni · 07-10-2009, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix

You know, for all the hate this movie is getting, yours has got to be the dumbest fucking reasons Ive ever read for disliking a movie.

Some of you fucktards could find someone wrong about the cubes in a glass of ice water.

Fast-Food Ice Dirtier Than Toilet Water - ABC News

Anyway, finally saw this movie. Fight scenes that didn't involve Optimus were kind of boring. I never had a "blending robots" problem besides telling Megatron apart from 1-2 others, but the the majority of the time they did jack shit unless a head-robot was present. Like the last hour of the movie in Egypt where fucking 13 of them shot badly aimed missiles at the soldiers occasionally in the hope that maybe the entire military presence would show up and rape them if they didn't do anything for long enough?. Plot was too obvious and the Twins were really annoying, but Megan Fox + Optimus fight scenes entirely made up for everything bad in the movie.

Muligan · 07-11-2009, 12:04 AM

Why wasn't that Devastator considered? I know Bay likes the more complex "working parts" design but that looks like something that would be more true to Transformers. I think he could have spiced up that design and it would have fit well. Devastator in the move was more less a angry ape that ate Pyramids.

Malice · 07-11-2009, 01:51 AM

As a fan of the original TV show I can say I was happy with the Devestator design in the movie. But like was mentioned, it was just used so poorly. It would have been bad-fucking-ass if all the autobots had to gang up to destroy it instead of inserting all the goddamn random ass grey nameless decepticons at the end. Oh well =/

fucker · 07-11-2009, 02:18 AM

it's just the following of the first movie, where basically every decepticons is killed by US army (making the whole plotpoint of "we need autobots to save us from decepticons" pretty much pointless)

Intox · 07-11-2009, 04:36 AM

Could of been better if The fallen wrecked so much havoc that they had to recruit devastator to battle the fallen since optimus was out. Then have optimus come back with his jet wings and finish off the fallen after he kicked the shit out of devastator, or something that wasn't what they presented to us.

Korioni · 07-11-2009, 11:18 AM

The rail gun would have been acceptable if they had used it more.

Dokomo · 07-11-2009, 02:37 PM

Or it would have been acceptable if they had taken into account the fact the Pyramids are 60 miles inland, which is over the horizon from the ocean, and thus out of line of sight of the railgun. (Also makes me wonder how they got the tanks there so fast.)

Phoenix · 07-11-2009, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Dokomo

Or it would have been acceptable if they had taken into account the fact the Pyramids are 60 miles inland, which is over the horizon from the ocean, and thus out of line of sight of the railgun. (Also makes me wonder how they got the tanks there so fast.)

You do know that the railgun that Navy is currently developing is meant to be able to hit targets over the horizon, right?

fucker · 07-11-2009, 07:19 PM

you mean like this ?

that looks like an oldschool indirect ballistic strike, just from higher altitude and with gps control

hit directly an object behind the horizon with a non-selfpropelled weapon is pretty much impossible with our current technology. it would take incredible precision. so much precision that a ballistic strike will always be the easier way to do it

the other option is a missile, but then we dont talk about "guns" anymore

Frax · 07-12-2009, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by fucker

you mean like this ?

that looks like an oldschool indirect ballistic strike, just from higher altitude and with gps control

hit directly an object behind the horizon with a non-selfpropelled weapon is pretty much impossible with our current technology. it would take incredible precision. so much precision that a ballistic strike will always be the easier way to do it

the other option is a missile, but then we dont talk about "guns" anymore

short video of that rail gun in your link being fired, pretty cool! The power it has is pretty evident:

http://www.onrglobal.navy.mil/railgun/railgunSM.wmv

Cinge · 07-12-2009, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Dokomo

Or it would have been acceptable if they had taken into account the fact the Pyramids are 60 miles inland, which is over the horizon from the ocean, and thus out of line of sight of the railgun. (Also makes me wonder how they got the tanks there so fast.)

It's a movie about alien robots, not a documentary. Worse comes to worse pull out" we reverse engineered it from autobot technology" and tada magic!

dechire · 07-13-2009, 06:17 PM

an hour too long i think, but all and all an enjoyable sequel to the first, really not sure what all the QQ is about.

Phoenix · 07-13-2009, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by dechire

an hour too long i think, but all and all an enjoyable sequel to the first, really not sure what all the QQ is about.

I think a lot of the tools here went in thinking this was going to be as good as Schiendler's List or Shaw Shank Redemption yet forgot it was about robots that come from outer space and play rockem sockem robots.

Korioni · 07-15-2009, 11:39 PM

Eh, as seen in my post a page or 2 back, I went into this fully expecting it to be nothing but explosions and robots and exploding robots. Looking forward to it, in fact. Problem was that the vast majority of the action scenes were extremely flat and boring. It wasn't overstimulating or blender robots like a lot of people are bitching about... it was just boring and almost entirely inconsequential action. Which is a fucking hard feat to pull off, Mr. Bay.

The exceptions being the Optimus scenes.

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Korioni Six Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,815 -118 Internets	The rail gun would have been acceptable if they had used it more. __________________

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fucker no funny comment sorry Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1,803 -27 Internets	you mean like this ? that looks like an oldschool indirect ballistic strike, just from higher altitude and with gps control hit directly an object behind the horizon with a non-selfpropelled weapon is pretty much impossible with our current technology. it would take incredible precision. so much precision that a ballistic strike will always be the easier way to do it the other option is a missile, but then we dont talk about "guns" anymore Last edited by fucker; 07-11-2009 at 07:28 PM..

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dechire /shrug Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: ATX Posts: 703	an hour too long i think, but all and all an enjoyable sequel to the first, really not sure what all the QQ is about. __________________ PVP is the reason we can't have nice things. `Vorph

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Korioni Six Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,815 -118 Internets	Eh, as seen in my post a page or 2 back, I went into this fully expecting it to be nothing but explosions and robots and exploding robots. Looking forward to it, in fact. Problem was that the vast majority of the action scenes were extremely flat and boring. It wasn't overstimulating or blender robots like a lot of people are bitching about... it was just boring and almost entirely inconsequential action. Which is a fucking hard feat to pull off, Mr. Bay. The exceptions being the Optimus scenes. __________________

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07-11-2009, 12:04 AM	#528 (permalink)
Muligan EQ Retirement Home Resident Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pikeville, KY Posts: 276 -10 Internets	Why wasn't that Devastator considered? I know Bay likes the more complex "working parts" design but that looks like something that would be more true to Transformers. I think he could have spiced up that design and it would have fit well. Devastator in the move was more less a angry ape that ate Pyramids.

07-11-2009, 01:51 AM	#529 (permalink)
Malice Stop eating my sesame cake. Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 600 +2 Internets	As a fan of the original TV show I can say I was happy with the Devestator design in the movie. But like was mentioned, it was just used so poorly. It would have been bad-fucking-ass if all the autobots had to gang up to destroy it instead of inserting all the goddamn random ass grey nameless decepticons at the end. Oh well =/

07-11-2009, 02:18 AM	#530 (permalink)
fucker no funny comment sorry Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1,803 -27 Internets	it's just the following of the first movie, where basically every decepticons is killed by US army (making the whole plotpoint of "we need autobots to save us from decepticons" pretty much pointless)

07-11-2009, 04:36 AM	#531 (permalink)
Intox Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 233 +4 Internets	Could of been better if The fallen wrecked so much havoc that they had to recruit devastator to battle the fallen since optimus was out. Then have optimus come back with his jet wings and finish off the fallen after he kicked the shit out of devastator, or something that wasn't what they presented to us.

07-11-2009, 02:37 PM	#533 (permalink)
Dokomo Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Buffalo Grove, IL Posts: 1,301 -18 Internets	Or it would have been acceptable if they had taken into account the fact the Pyramids are 60 miles inland, which is over the horizon from the ocean, and thus out of line of sight of the railgun. (Also makes me wonder how they got the tanks there so fast.)