Most underrated/overrated actor/actress - Page 9

homsar · 06-26-2008, 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Astrocreep

Uh Tom Cruise has been big for christsakes 25 years? since risky business? sure he gets a lot of shit now for being a religious cult zealot but he had a fucking hell of a run long before that.

But who the hell ever says he is a great actor??? Every single person says he plays the same role in every movie when he doesnt.

Astrocreep · 06-26-2008, 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by homsar

But who the hell ever says he is a great actor??? Every single person says he plays the same role in every movie when he doesnt.

pacino and nicholson play the same character over and over again, it doesnt mean they they arent great. it just means they are sticking with what works. cruise is a great actor or at least was. but his public persona has fucked things up a lot.

homsar · 06-26-2008, 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Astrocreep

pacino and nicholson play the same character over and over again, it doesnt mean they they arent great. it just means they are sticking with what works. cruise is a great actor or at least was. but his public persona has fucked things up a lot.

No idea what to say. I always hear Pacino and Nicholson are great actors while Cruise can only play Tom Cruise.

Kaige · 06-26-2008, 06:54 AM

I think the issue with guys like Pacino and Nicholson is because their unique persona is always overshadowing their character. They're good actors, but you can't help but forget their characters' names.

Thorpe · 06-26-2008, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by homsar

hell the guy hasnt even got an Oscar and has been screwed over alot.

If you want to talk about getting screwed over a lot, no one tops Peter O'Toole (I) - Awards.

slitz · 06-26-2008, 08:09 AM

Hard to say that Johnny Depp is underrated since most people probably like him, but it's a fucking disgrace that the guy haven't received a Oscar yet so I will have to put him as under rated actor.
Donnie Wahlberg and Michael Pitt (Funny Games, The Village) are both underrated imo.

edit: Oh and have to add Patrick Swayze for his performance in Donnie Darko 8) (not really sure what happened to his career after Road House / Ghost / Dirty Dancing)

Astrocreep · 06-26-2008, 10:06 AM

Has anyone mentioned Patrick Stewart ? i didnt like him as Picard at first cuz i thought he was trying to replace Kirk but his movie acting is awesome. he was great in xmen and Conspiracy Theory.

Jenison · 06-26-2008, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Astrocreep

Has anyone mentioned Patrick Stewart ? i didnt like him as Picard at first cuz i thought he was trying to replace Kirk but his movie acting is awesome. he was great in xmen and Conspiracy Theory.

No one mentions him as underrated because he isnt. Hes a shakespearen trained actor. Probably the most talented / schooled actor the Star Trek series will ever get.

Thorpe · 06-26-2008, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Astrocreep

Has anyone mentioned Patrick Stewart ? i didnt like him as Picard at first cuz i thought he was trying to replace Kirk but his movie acting is awesome. he was great in xmen and Conspiracy Theory.

Scientologist · 06-26-2008, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Thorpe

If you want to talk about getting screwed over a lot, no one tops Peter O'Toole (I) - Awards.

Holy shit he didn't get the oscar for Lawrence of Arabia? I always just assumed he won that one. Who the fuck did?

Faille · 06-26-2008, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Scientologist

Holy shit he didn't get the oscar for Lawrence of Arabia? I always just assumed he won that one. Who the fuck did?

* To Kill a Mockingbird (1962) - Gregory Peck

Hard to complain about that one. Sucks hard when you have 2 or more worthy winners in a year, and years at a time when they all suck.

Occido · 06-27-2008, 01:11 AM

There's a huge huge difference between the characters Pacino plays and the characters Nicholson plays. Only the retarded can't tell the difference.

Pacino - Ocean's 13 and Scarface... not even remotely the same character
88 Minutes and Devil's Advocate... Again, not even remotely the same.

Nicholson - Wolf and The shining... Not even remotely the same
Few Good Men and Batman... Again, not even the same

That's just a couple of examples. All their characters are completely different from one to the other. Where people get off saying the characters they play are all the same... I don't know, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see not one of their characters are alike.

May pick up on the actual persons mannerisms but doesn't mean all their characters are the same.

Same with Tom Cruise, though I'll have to say Interview with the Vampire was a horrible movie.

Etwynn · 06-27-2008, 01:16 AM

underrated actor: Sam Neill

Event Horizon
Merlin (TV movie)
Jurassic Park

Thorpe · 06-30-2008, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Etwynn

underrated actor: Sam Neill

Event Horizon
Merlin (TV movie)
Jurassic Park

Don't forget The Tudors.

Genjiro · 06-30-2008, 11:29 AM

Tom Cruise is not a great actor. The best review I ever read of him had to do with this disconnect between the audience and him in every movie he plays in due to his weird personality (which we come to see later in his legendary whacked out scientology rants). There is not one character Cruise has *ever* played that I felt any sense of connection with or cared about. He usually gets out acted by at least one (if not more) people in every movie he is in.

Top Gun, you cared more for Goose than Maverick.
Mission Impossible III: Philip Seymour Hoffman > Cruise.
Last Samurai: The Japanese guy
Mission Impossible II: Thandie Newton
Jerry Maguire: Renee Zellweger & Cuba Gooding Jr were both better than he was. So was the cute nerdy kid with the glasses.
Mission Impossible I: Probably the entire movie-->Join Voigt, Kristin Scott Thomas etc etc
Days of Thunder: Robert Duval stole the movie
A Few Good Men: Do I even need to say it?
Rain Man: same as above
Legend: Fuck, even Tim Curry was far more memorable than Cruise was...as the Satan Incarnate Overlord
The Firm: Oh lets see...Ed Harris, Holly Hunter, Gene Hackman
Interview with the Vampire: He and Brad Pitt both get upstaged by a little girl played by Kirsten Dunst, but it was probably my favorite movie of his.

So that leaves what, Born on the 4th of July or some shit as his top movie where he isn't overshadowed by someone else? Ffs, some of the movies he plays in are enjoyable, but that doesn't mean to me that it makes him a great actor. I think other people have carried his movies, pretty much everything with Nicole Kidman (his fake Irish accent was so bad it hurt to watch) is in you can add to that list as well. If anything, I think he's done well in choosing scripts that hide his lack of acting and which he knows will be popular, which I guess you can't really blame the guy for. But I just can't think of any incredibly memorable performance by him where I thought "wow what a good actor", and on top of that I never give 2 shits for his character.

06-26-2008, 06:54 AM	#124 (permalink)
Kaige The Diet Coke of Evil Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 924	I think the issue with guys like Pacino and Nicholson is because their unique persona is always overshadowing their character. They're good actors, but you can't help but forget their characters' names. __________________ Kaige Diplomacy: The ability to tell someone to go to Hell so that they'll look forward to making the trip.

06-26-2008, 08:09 AM	#126 (permalink)
slitz euro scum Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 819 -9 Internets	Hard to say that Johnny Depp is underrated since most people probably like him, but it's a fucking disgrace that the guy haven't received a Oscar yet so I will have to put him as under rated actor. Donnie Wahlberg and Michael Pitt (Funny Games, The Village) are both underrated imo. edit: Oh and have to add Patrick Swayze for his performance in Donnie Darko 8) (not really sure what happened to his career after Road House / Ghost / Dirty Dancing) __________________ Last edited by slitz : 06-26-2008 at 08:14 AM.

06-27-2008, 01:11 AM	#132 (permalink)
Occido Your money's on the dresser. Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Somewhere in the Mountains Posts: 1,580	There's a huge huge difference between the characters Pacino plays and the characters Nicholson plays. Only the retarded can't tell the difference. Pacino - Ocean's 13 and Scarface... not even remotely the same character 88 Minutes and Devil's Advocate... Again, not even remotely the same. Nicholson - Wolf and The shining... Not even remotely the same Few Good Men and Batman... Again, not even the same That's just a couple of examples. All their characters are completely different from one to the other. Where people get off saying the characters they play are all the same... I don't know, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see not one of their characters are alike. May pick up on the actual persons mannerisms but doesn't mean all their characters are the same. Same with Tom Cruise, though I'll have to say Interview with the Vampire was a horrible movie. __________________ When a man isn't busy killing another, he spends the rest of his time killing what resembles himself the most.

06-30-2008, 11:29 AM	#135 (permalink)
Genjiro We bawlin boi! Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,817	Tom Cruise is not a great actor. The best review I ever read of him had to do with this disconnect between the audience and him in every movie he plays in due to his weird personality (which we come to see later in his legendary whacked out scientology rants). There is not one character Cruise has ever played that I felt any sense of connection with or cared about. He usually gets out acted by at least one (if not more) people in every movie he is in. Top Gun, you cared more for Goose than Maverick. Mission Impossible III: Philip Seymour Hoffman > Cruise. Last Samurai: The Japanese guy Mission Impossible II: Thandie Newton Jerry Maguire: Renee Zellweger & Cuba Gooding Jr were both better than he was. So was the cute nerdy kid with the glasses. Mission Impossible I: Probably the entire movie-->Join Voigt, Kristin Scott Thomas etc etc Days of Thunder: Robert Duval stole the movie A Few Good Men: Do I even need to say it? Rain Man: same as above Legend: Fuck, even Tim Curry was far more memorable than Cruise was...as the Satan Incarnate Overlord The Firm: Oh lets see...Ed Harris, Holly Hunter, Gene Hackman Interview with the Vampire: He and Brad Pitt both get upstaged by a little girl played by Kirsten Dunst, but it was probably my favorite movie of his. So that leaves what, Born on the 4th of July or some shit as his top movie where he isn't overshadowed by someone else? Ffs, some of the movies he plays in are enjoyable, but that doesn't mean to me that it makes him a great actor. I think other people have carried his movies, pretty much everything with Nicole Kidman (his fake Irish accent was so bad it hurt to watch) is in you can add to that list as well. If anything, I think he's done well in choosing scripts that hide his lack of acting and which he knows will be popular, which I guess you can't really blame the guy for. But I just can't think of any incredibly memorable performance by him where I thought "wow what a good actor", and on top of that I never give 2 shits for his character. __________________ Genjiro--Legacy of Steel--EQ1 sexy monk (retired) Entreri--Guildleader of Ardent Legion--EQ2 (retired) WarEagle86: "What the hell, does everyone at WVU run a 4.2 or something? Never seen that much speed before."

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06-26-2008, 10:06 AM	#127 (permalink)
Astrocreep The Undead Shaman Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: NYC Posts: 3,528	Has anyone mentioned Patrick Stewart ? i didnt like him as Picard at first cuz i thought he was trying to replace Kirk but his movie acting is awesome. he was great in xmen and Conspiracy Theory.

06-27-2008, 01:16 AM	#133 (permalink)
Etwynn Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 164 -29 Internets	underrated actor: Sam Neill Event Horizon Merlin (TV movie) Jurassic Park