Porn Sales Down Alot

[Lyrical]

I love how they talk about sites with free clips are displacing porn DVD sales, but totally gloss over the fact that there are a ton of porn movies all on the torrent sites. Why pay $70 for a porn movie when its on torrents for free? Also, the writers of the article seem to think the problem is just limited to porn, when the music, gaming and motion picture industries are facing the same thing.


YouTube-style porn threatens studios | NEWS.com.au


AFTER years of booming sales supported by videotapes, DVDs and the internet, the adult film industry is being challenged by easy video-sharing websites offering explicit content for free.
"We're dealing with rampant piracy, tons of free content," said Steven Hirsch, co-founder of Vivid, the best-known adult film studio.

Vivid once earned 80 per cent of its roughly $100 million a year from DVD sales, but last year that fell to 30 per cent, Mr Hirsch said.

The challenge of the internet, a topic of discussion at the biggest adult film expo of the year in Las Vegas last week, has already presented itself to the music and mainstream film industries.

Much of the online competition for the US porn world, based largely in southern California, comes from websites like XTube.com which allow users to upload their own videos in a similar format to YouTube.

Some of the videos on XTube, based in Toronto, Canada, come from commercial studios while others are posted by amateurs.

"We're not pirates. We are providing a service that people think they can use to pirate," said Lance Cassidy, one of XTube's founders.

The website has 200,000 free videos, typically 30 seconds to two minutes long, and about 1 per cent of visitors buy DVDs or video streams, resulting in millions of dollars of annual revenue, sales director Curtis Potec said. About two thirds of XTube's viewers are gay, Mr Potec said.

"We've had tons and tons of people tell us this is the future of the adult industry," Mr Potec said.

"Most of the money is ads, on any site, mainstream or adult."

Scott Coffman, president of Adult Entertainment Broadcast Network (AEBN) in North Carolina, says his company started a YouTube-type site a year-and-a-half ago to generate revenue through advertising and drive traffic to pay-per-minute sites.

AEBN limits free clips to three minutes. Users make about a quarter of them.

"They don't convert that well when you give away so much. There is a fine line between giving away something small, a teaser... and giving away the whole thing," Mr Coffman said.

He said his company had revenue of about $100 million a year and was facing a lawsuit from Vivid accusing AEBN of piracy.

Mr Hirsch of Vivid said he would also sue other video-sharing sites.

"This industry is going to have to get together and look at these guys that are putting out the stuff for free... so they are going to have to get in line and start paying for it," Mr Hirsch said.

"If that doesn't happen and we see all of this free content out there, people are not going to be able to afford to produce movies anymore."

Videotapes, fewer prosecutions, DVDs and internet advertising has created an unprecedented boom the US adult film industry since the 1980s.

Many studios post short clips on internet video-sharing sites as advertising to sell more movies.

"This is something we constantly discuss in our office. Is it too much," said Garion Hall, chief executive of Abbywinters.com, an Australian-based company.

Hall said only one out of 500 viewers clicked over to his site from free clips and of those only one in 50 subscribed.

Some adult industry executives say a solution may lie in future distribution deals with big US companies such as AT&T, Verizon Communications, Comcast and Apple.

An Apple spokeswoman said the company would not comment if it had held past talks or was interested in distributing adult product.

A spokeswoman for Comcast, the largest US cable provider, said the firm offered adult content in its video-on-demand service but said she knew of no talks for mobile adult distribution.

Sales of sex films to mobile devices occur in Europe but have yet to take off in the US.

"We won't make money through adult content," said Verizon Wireless spokesman Ken Muche.

AT&T did not comment.

Jay Grdina, president of ClubJenna Inc, a division of Playboy, said sharing previews was a mistake.

"We're getting bitten by our own sword," he said.

Grdina, former husband and on-scene partner of Jenna Jameson, one of the industry's most famous porn stars, said he has met companies such as Microsoft and Apple to seek wireless and other distribution deals that could allow easy downloads to devices such as iPods.

A spokesman for Microsoft said they were not in talks to distribute adult content.

"The revenues are massive," Grdina said.

"(But) the biggest fear is share price: what are the shareholders going to say?"

[Jait]

Gee, I wonder why spectravision and other hotel porn stopped offering the first 5 minutes free years ago.

[Lyrical]

Originally Posted by Jait

Gee, I wonder why spectravision and other hotel porn stopped offering the first 5 minutes free years ago.

How do you know, perv?

[Chrisb3]

Pornography is disgusting, servers them right. World would be a better place without most of it

Why lower yourself AND lose money at the same time? Get it for free with torrents/streaming and contribute to the industries downfall!

[Mist]

Who needs the porn industry when you have the music videos they put out these days.

[TheCutlery]

Originally Posted by Chrisb3

Pornography is disgusting, servers them right. World would be a better place without most of it

Why lower yourself AND lose money at the same time? Get it for free with torrents/streaming and contribute to the industries downfall!

Get your morals outta this thread, sir.

[Brutul Tarew Marr]

Originally Posted by Lyrical

How do you know, perv?

Hehe I stayed in a hotel with that when I was in High School. Even at the time I thought "Who really needs more than 5 minutes of porn?"

[Soygen]

Yeah....but who the hell can get off to the first 5 minutes? I'm entirely too desensitized for that shit.

[Ham n Cheese]

Plus that's normally plot set-up

[Hatorade]

Originally Posted by Chrisb3

Pornography is disgusting, servers them right. World would be a better place without most of it

Why lower yourself AND lose money at the same time? Get it for free with torrents/streaming and contribute to the industries downfall!

Sorry but anyone that thinks ALL porno is disgusting has something wrong with them. Ass to mouth not your thing?...thats fine go watch one of the other 10,000 styles of porn there is.

They make porno for everyone and if you haven't found it your not looking for it.

[Malakriss]

Gas costs too much, so we spend less on music, video, and porn. The fact that we can get it for free is the only thing perpetuating our interest in those forms of entertainment.

[brekk]

Originally Posted by Malakriss

The fact that we can get it for free is the only thing perpetuating our interest in those forms of entertainment.

I agree with movies and music. If it wasn't free I doubt people would give up their porn... Its porn for fucks sake.

[Astrocreep]

Originally Posted by Chrisb3

Pornography is disgusting, servers them right. World would be a better place without most of it

Why lower yourself AND lose money at the same time? Get it for free with torrents/streaming and contribute to the industries downfall!

did a dog bite your penis off or something? everyone loves porn, men, women old and young.

[Malakriss]

I would love to read some of Astrocreep's reviews for porn.

[Kuriin]

Sex toys and DVDs are so fucking expensive. Thank GOD for xtube.