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Old 06-08-2008, 09:08 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Italy has the Vatican. In the Bible Belt, I don't know what we have exactly, but these movies never come here. Sicko didn't make it. I doubt this will either, or people will protest or some silly shit.
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Old 06-08-2008, 09:52 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I enjoy Bill Maher, but to use a really cheesy pun, I have to wonder how much preaching to the choir he's doing here. You have to figure that 99.99% of the people who actually see this movie will be atheists or agnostics looking for some entertainment. It doesn't look like the kind of movie that's going to reach the right crowds to challenge the right minds. It's just going to be dismissed offhand, if it's even shown at all, in the Bible Belt.

That said, I'm sure it'll be good for a chuckle or two. I really hope they show some speaking-in-tongues scenes from those loony churches that do that kind of stuff.
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Old 06-08-2008, 09:56 PM   #18 (permalink)
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I really don't care if religious people don't see the movie... Most of them won't be influenced by a movie anyways. I just want to see this movie for entertainment reasons. And I want want to see what they did with the Golden Compass, but it will probably be X 10 with this movie.
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Old 06-08-2008, 10:53 PM   #19 (permalink)
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I'm in it for the funny. I could care less about it being influential. I think those making the pic are smart enough to know they won't be making any anti-religious progress. Just making the film had to drive that point home.
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Old 06-09-2008, 01:47 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Yeah but it was a Michael Moore film, and he's an anti-establishment communist atheist prick; at least in the Bible Belt, where 2+2 = Jesus.
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Old 06-09-2008, 08:43 AM   #21 (permalink)
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really? fuckin a. I didn't realize they expressed themselves that way anymore. The pirates will save you from the nasty Vatican.
vatican keep having a huge political/economic influence on our national choices. you guys maybe believe church is some kind of goodygood association. but believe me, the vatican is a fucking greedy multinational corporation. nothing more. nothing less.
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Old 06-09-2008, 10:45 AM   #22 (permalink)
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I've been waiting for this movie for a long time. Bill Maher talked about doing this film awhile ago and I've been waiting for it ever since. Clip does'nt dissappoint.

I do agree that the right kind of people are'nt going to see this movie,either for lack of it being near them or their to stuck in their religious ways and think anyone who does'nt bow to God is going to hell and dont want to waste their time on it,but who cares? I want to see it for the entertainment value,espically if theres evangelical shit,those people are fucking nuts.

On a side note I see this being protested outside of movie theaters with people holding signs that say "God loves you,reject Bill Maher and his atheist movie".

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Old 06-09-2008, 11:10 AM   #23 (permalink)
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I'm sure plenty of nutjobs will have far nastier signs and things to say
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Old 06-09-2008, 01:09 PM   #24 (permalink)
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I've been waiting for this movie for a long time. Bill Maher talked about doing this film awhile ago and I've been waiting for it ever since. Clip does'nt dissappoint.

I do agree that the right kind of people are'nt going to see this movie,either for lack of it being near them or their to stuck in their religious ways and think anyone who does'nt bow to God is going to hell and dont want to waste their time on it,but who cares? I want to see it for the entertainment value,espically if theres evangelical shit,those people are fucking nuts.

On a side note I see this being protested outside of movie theaters with people holding signs that say "God loves you,reject Bill Maher and his atheist movie".
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Old 06-09-2008, 02:34 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Italy has the Vatican. In the Bible Belt, I don't know what we have exactly, but these movies never come here. Sicko didn't make it. I doubt this will either, or people will protest or some silly shit.
This is so true. As someone who lives in the Bible Belt this movie will never see the light of day. They never showed Jesus Camp here and they won't show this one.

I'll have to fall back on me ye ole' piracy to see it. ARRRRRRRRRR!
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Old 06-09-2008, 02:54 PM   #27 (permalink)
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The argument I always like to throw out is three points thats cant be reconciled:

1) God is omnipotent, he is 100% all powerful and capable of doing anything.
2) God is good, he is the image of pure benevolence and everything that is good.
3) There is evil in the world.


You just cant reconcile all 3 of those statements logically, so bring on the protesters for this movie hehe.
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Old 06-09-2008, 04:41 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Considering the movie has had its release date pushed back twice already, I'm sort of beginning to wonder if it'll see the light of day anywhere, unless on direct-to-DVD.

I also sort of have to wonder how this will affect Maher's HBO show. If this has a huge backlash, I'd think he'd have a difficult time getting any politicians to go on his show.
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Old 06-09-2008, 04:56 PM   #29 (permalink)
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1) God is omnipotent, he is 100% all powerful and capable of doing anything.
2) God is good, he is the image of pure benevolence and everything that is good.
3) There is evil in the world.


You just cant reconcile all 3 of those statements logically, so bring on the protesters for this movie hehe.
Eh, at the risk of sounding like one of the "crazy evangelical" types, I've reconciled this ages ago.

Just takes reading enough to realize that God's power operates on laws that get taught throughout the Bible - God took several thousand years and required the help of man (Abraham especially) to be able to undo Adam's mistake. Once reaching that level of understanding, one can just laugh at the whole "Can God make a wall so strong that he can't break?" arguments.

Once God gave the earth to Adam, and Adam pissed it away, the Earth was no longer God's anymore to just "remove all the evil" out of it. Thus, there is nothing that needs reconciled in your statement.
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Old 06-09-2008, 05:43 PM   #30 (permalink)
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I also sort of have to wonder how this will affect Maher's HBO show. If this has a huge backlash, I'd think he'd have a difficult time getting any politicians to go on his show.
I can't see this having any real backlash, because realistically, the people who will watch the movie either 1) watch/like Bill Maher or 2) share similar views. Like Millie said he is preaching to the choir, I mean you see it on his show even, his audience is like a bunch of sheep. He says something to the effect of "talking snake" and the audience cheers, and these types of people will absolutely see his movie.

I suppose it depends on how the format goes, because he seems to be talking to different types of people rather than going to people who basically agree with him to talk about the God delusion. I'll watch it because I watch Real Time, I am an atheist, however, I don't particularly care for how he expresses his anti religion views. He basically sweeps anyone religious into the "fucking idiot" category and invalidates them, and I find that equally offensive as the religious extremists who want to tell me my soul is condemned for not believing in God, or tell me I'm stupid for not believing in something.

Either way, I expect if nothing else there will be a few laughs.
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