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Old 05-21-2008, 08:59 PM   #46 (permalink)
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If Zohan was another Billy Madison or Happy Gilmore, I don't think anyone would be complaining. But it doesn't look like it's going to be. At all. It looks more like it's going to be Meet the Spartans.
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Old 05-21-2008, 09:05 PM   #47 (permalink)
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If Zohan was another Billy Madison or Happy Gilmore, I don't think anyone would be complaining. But it doesn't look like it's going to be. At all. It looks more like it's going to be Meet the Spartans.
Can we meet halfway and agree on another "Zoolander"? Cheesy scenes, sure, but a movie with its heart in the right place?

I also don't think Adam Sandler would do a "Meet the Spartans" level movie. Come on, now. Give the guy some credit. Like asking "Dude, you see Anthony Hopkins in that new dinosaur flick on Sci-Fi channel?". Sandler didn't become successful accepting EVERY role.

...still can't believe you said "Another Meet the Spartans". I'd like to believe that shit can't and won't be repeated. Hell, I think you said it just to get a rise and blow shit out of proportion, heh-heh. Meet the Spartans is like that thing in Jeeper Creepers. Only ever 23 years does it come back.
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Old 05-21-2008, 09:12 PM   #48 (permalink)
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No, because Zoolander was also quite fucking good. I'll raise it up one tiny notch and grant you Little Nicky.
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Old 05-21-2008, 09:24 PM   #49 (permalink)
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No, because Zoolander was also quite fucking good. I'll raise it up one tiny notch and grant you Little Nicky.
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Alright, that works. Nicky could be slightly irritating, but wasn't full blown annoying. Let's hope Zohan is similar.

Don't know what we're worried about. Don't think I've EVER seen a Sandler movie that I haven't laughed my ass off as long as I didn't go in convincing myself it was going to suck. Whatever character, he'll take and do his thing with him.

We're going to feel pretty damn stupid bitching about this one when his next one turns out to be a sequel to The Notebook or something.
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Old 05-21-2008, 09:28 PM   #50 (permalink)
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I actually like his more serious work, though I admit I haven't had the opportunity to see Punch Drunk Love yet. Everything else is fairly damn baller, though.
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Old 05-21-2008, 09:42 PM   #51 (permalink)
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I actually like his more serious work, though I admit I haven't had the opportunity to see Punch Drunk Love yet. Everything else is fairly damn baller, though.
So do I. "Reign over me" rocked.

Another similar actor that this reminds me of is Robin Williams. How slapstick was his act in the beginning? Good Morning Vietnam he was 1 step above insane.

But, he took some more serious roles, and he fell right in. His monologues in "What Dreams May Come" I lose it every time. You know how some actors are told "remember a sad movie scene if you need to cry"? For me, it's that. When he's trying to make his wife remember him in hell, then deciding he would rather stay than go back (tell my kids I love them. And I will NOT leave their mother!), and in the end his willingness to stay with her is the magic "free exit pass" and they both go to Heaven. Their guide goes "I have that surprise for you" and the dog runs up and he goes "Um, that's not my surprise" points down at the kid, kid looks up and goes MOM!. Every time, without fail, water works. Or the scene when he's speaking at his dead son's funeral?:

There's a man Ian never got to know, the man he was growing up to be. He's a good-looking clear-eyed fella... about 25. I can see him. He's the type of guy men want to be around, because he has integrity, you know ? He has character. You can't fake that. And he's a guy women want to be around, too. Because there's tenderness in him... respect... and loyalty, and courage. And women respond to that. Makes him a terrific husband, this guy. I see him as a father. That's where he really shines. See, when he looks in his kid's eyes and that kid knows that his dad really, really sees him... he sees who he is. Then that child knows that he is an amazing person. He's quite a guy... that I'll never get to meet. I wish I had.

or his speech to his wife:

Thank you for every kindness. Thank you for our children. For the first time I saw them. Thank you for being someone I was always proud to be with. For your guts, for your sweetness. For how you always looked, for how I always wanted to touch you. God, you were my life. I apologize for everytime I ever failed you. Especially this one...

Just wanted to show you, the guy making us lose it in dramas now was doing dick jokes 20 years ago.

Or his monologues from Good Will Hunting? Get the fuck out. Pure epic win.

So if I asked you about art, you'd probably give me the skinny on every art book ever written. Michelangelo, you know a lot about him. Life's work, political aspirations, him and the pope, sexual orientations, the whole works, right? But I'll bet you can't tell me what it smells like in the Sistine Chapel. You've never actually stood there and looked up at that beautiful ceiling; seen that. If I ask you about women, you'd probably give me a syllabus about your personal favorites. You may have even been laid a few times. But you can't tell me what it feels like to wake up next to a woman and feel truly happy. You're a tough kid. And I'd ask you about war, you'd probably throw Shakespeare at me, right, "once more unto the breach dear friends." But you've never been near one. You've never held your best friend's head in your lap, watch him gasp his last breath looking to you for help. I'd ask you about love, you'd probably quote me a sonnet. But you've never looked at a woman and been totally vulnerable. Known someone that could level you with her eyes, feeling like God put an angel on earth just for you. Who could rescue you from the depths of hell. And you wouldn't know what it's like to be her angel, to have that love for her, be there forever, through anything, through cancer. And you wouldn't know about sleeping sitting up in the hospital room for two months, holding her hand, because the doctors could see in your eyes, that the terms "visiting hours" don't apply to you. You don't know about real loss, 'cause it only occurs when you've loved something more than you love yourself. And I doubt you've ever dared to love anybody that much. And look at you... I don't see an intelligent, confident man... I see a cocky, scared shitless kid. But you're a genius Will. No one denies that. No one could possibly understand the depths of you. But you presume to know everything about me because you saw a painting of mine, and you ripped my fucking life apart. You're an orphan right?

[Will nods]

You think I know the first thing about how hard your life has been, how you feel, who you are, because I read Oliver Twist? Does that encapsulate you? Personally... I don't give a shit about all that, because you know what, I can't learn anything from you, I can't read in some fuckin' book. Unless you want to talk about you, who you are. Then I'm fascinated. I'm in. But you don't want to do that do you sport? You're terrified of what you might say. Your move, chief.


Sorry if I rambled, just love these 2 movies, and I can see Sandler being in 20 years where Robin Williams is now. What Dreams May Come is STILL the only movie I cry in.
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Old 05-22-2008, 09:06 AM   #52 (permalink)
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Oddly, if I were to make a list of movies I loathe, "What Dreams May Come" would be at the top. I have a very high tolerance for shitty movies... hell, I own and sometimes watch Garbage Pale Kids and Mazes and Monsters. It's very, very rare for me to watch a movie and actually be bored to the point I wish the movie would just end. What Dreams May Come is one of those movies.

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"We were in hell but now we're not! That's SUPER!!

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I agree on the Robbin Williams thing. For awhile he was playing essentially the same role over and over... X with a big heart who wants to help a person/people through whatever adversity they are facing. It was nice seeing him change it up with 24 Hour Photo, Insomnia, and of course Death to Smoochy.

Of course, then there was RV...
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Old 05-22-2008, 09:07 AM   #53 (permalink)
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robin williams has been in a shithole lately though. fuck man of the year. how can you ruin an all star cast like that so badly.
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Old 05-22-2008, 09:24 AM   #54 (permalink)
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What Dreams May Come generates such polarizing reactions. I think the subject matter hits all of us differently.
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Old 05-22-2008, 09:41 AM   #55 (permalink)
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I think Zohan looks funny. Might not see it in the theaters, but I think I'll like it whenever I do see it.
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Old 05-22-2008, 01:01 PM   #56 (permalink)
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You can't say you didn't chuckle a little at "...ear comes ze dooble foot"
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Old 05-22-2008, 02:49 PM   #57 (permalink)
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This is me watching an Adam Sandler movie,even favorites like Happy Gilmore back in the day when everyone loved Sandler: "...................."

Yet the Zohan trailer was worth a chuckle.

Oh, and this is me watching Alba:

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Old 05-22-2008, 02:56 PM   #58 (permalink)
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This episode of SVU with Robin Williams was awesome.

Law & Order SVU 9x17 (HDTV-0TV)[VTV] : TV Shows > Law And Order - Mininova
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Old 05-23-2008, 08:52 AM   #59 (permalink)
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I like Mike Myers (SNL / Wayne's World / Axe Murderer), but I have to say I was never a fan of Austin Powers. I see Love Guru being exactly the same, all the same ridiculous characters and jokes. He's even got Verne Troyer again for all the rehashed short jokes...
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Old 05-23-2008, 10:39 AM   #60 (permalink)
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Man I had no idea who the hell Mike Myers was until you listed those movies. I was like, what the hell, you like Halloween a lot or what? That's crazy!
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