Wolverine

[T-rex]

Well the guy that played Weapon XI wasn't even Ryan Reynolds anyways.

[Xenrauk]

What they should have had was an epic battle between Wolverine and Sabretooth in the end. They spent a good deal of the movie on their relationship and then shit it away in the end to a cyclops/baraka clone fight. I was half expecting to see Sinister make a cameo after seeing that. I wonder why it's so hard for writers to stick closer to canon and not go off the wall and write up their own shit for comic movies.

[meStevo]

All this experimentation stuff does reek of Mr. Sinister, never really thought about that.

[Daerath]

Originally Posted by Wash

Then in the middle third it started to get stupid, and in the last third, it went full retard. Why give him an adamantium skeleton if they only wanted to steal his powers? Does that military base in a nuclear power plant really have no guards, and only a single door between the Weapon XI experiment and the outside? Adamantium bullets can kill him? Wait, they can't kill him but they can wipe his memory? Huh?

Wolverine was the test to see if his regeneration would let him survive the adamantium skeleton upgrade. The whole point was to ensure that Deadpool could survive the procedure. They'd look pretty stupid if they finished all of Deadpool's genetic modifications and then killed him while putting adamantium on his skeleton.

That's my guess anyway.

[Gaereth]

Guess hell, they said as much in the movie. Some folks just tend to miss about half of what they are watching, I think they are bitching too much.

[Snugglebear]

Hold up, lemme type some shit into my 386: ENGAGE

Now go for it Baraka!

[Burkex]

I just wanted to add to my post from before because after thinking about this movie for a bit I wanted to elaborate on why Wolverine kind of failed and why some comic book movies fail when others do not.

First off, just about every comic book movie follows the exact same formula: We see a hero created through some life changing event then we see they have an enemy who is evil and must be stopped and at the end the hero fights the bad guy and the hero wins. That is the plot for about 95% of all comic book movies. With any comic book movie there is going to be fighting, action and special effects these three elements are a given. Now what sets apart the good ones from the bad ones is a good story, good acting, good dialogue, a strong supporting cast, being true to the comic book and so on. Now Wolverine really didn't have any of that stuff that makes it really good. It started out with a story in the first 20-30 minutes then the writers just sorta abandoned it and from then on it was just a montage of action scenes and different supporting chars that were kind of flat because they really didn't have much screen time or good dialogue. That's where Wolverine failed. The action was good but with no story or good dialogue or all that other good stuff the movie was just another typical comic book movie that was just okay and gets 2/4 stars or a 5/10 rating.

[Erinye]

Just got back from seeing it. Not an avid comic reader, and I enjoyed it, despite hearing all the bitching on this forum and across the web.

I think they can transition (out of comic canon for what I know) Deadpool into the more "legit" version now as to say that this fucked up process of experimenting on him can replace the whole cancer thing that messed him up in the comics (again, speaking out of not knowing, so fuck you in advance if you want to nerdrage on me). I was entertained and liked how most characters got little screen time, as it made it more possible to imagine what could happen down the line outside of the Xmen trilogy arc. I'd be interested to see post X3 what they could do, aka bring Deadpool back after all that time and have him adjusted to himself now (being the faithful comic book adaption) and span another movie delving into a resolution of Wolverine and Xmen, from which point you could delve off into whatever the fuck else you want.

Oh well. It was worth the price of admission. Movies are there to entertain and tickle my imagination, mission accomplished.

[Jenison]

Sabertooth made the movie for me. Liev did an awesome job. I wouldnt mind a whole movie of just that guy.
Though when Wolverine takes a bullet to the head for the first time after getting the new skeleton, that was pretty awesome.

I enjoyed it. The time line didnt feel right. That and his memory loss. But oh well. I'll buy the blu-ray.

[homsar]

I still want to know how the bullet was able to go threw adamantium. It's pretty much indestructable

[column]

I think in the comic Agent zero had a bullet that could pierce his skull,but he never used it.

It wasn't a mind erasing bullet of course lol

Also I believe the Adamantium they used on Wolverine was farmed on earth,and there is precedence from more powerful substances in the Marvel U.

Both The Hulk and Longshot have broken Adamantium with enough force.

While often referred to as indestructible or unbreakable, it is possible for it to be destroyed through very specific circumstances. True adamantium can be destroyed through very precise molecular rearrangement, such as being altered by Thanos while wearing the Infinity Gauntlet.[3] True adamantium's molecular structure can also be altered by Antarctic vibranium, also known as anti-metal, as it has the capability to liquify all known metallic substances, including adamantium.

[homsar]

You are thinking of Vibranium I think. Its what Captain Americas sheild is made out of, Adamantium is an artificial Vibraniuo his scm.

Yes so that means Adamantium bullets still wouldnt do crap to his skull

[The Noble Savage]

Completely boggled by the Who Framed Roger Rabbit Toon Town claws Wolverine had. That was so weird and out of place it was awkward to even look at them.

Ummm so questions:

1) Was Barakapool supposed to have an adamantium skeleton? I mean, it was implied. But when his head got chopped off I was like...wait what? Then I thought back to the doctor chick doing to procedure on Barakpool and her saying that the procedure wasn't finished so I wasn't sure.

2) Stupid memory erasing aspect of the bullets aside, I couldn't quite make out if those were actual holes in his head (went through his skull), or if it was just the flesh was damaged and I was supposed to think that the impact of adamantium on adamantium at high velocity caused his memory loss. They didn't "look" like bullets holes, but that could be attributed to the Toon Town effects crew. I mean, I couldn't see inside his fucking head, and it looked to be metallic with blood on it so who knows. So then of course you see it healing up, which means one of two things if those were actually holes. His healing factor somehow produced more adamantium or diverted some from other areas, which both are incredibly silly and make no sense. Or it just healed the holes with bone and wolverine is walking around with an adamantium skeleton except for the two holes in his head where it's just bone. So, Im gonna go ahead and believe that they weren't holes and ignore the decapitation and Barackpool about to stab Wolverine in the back of the head simply believe that the impact of adamantium on his skull jarred his brain which, while causing no physical damage, disrupted and jumbled his brains normal electrical activity causing memory loss. And if not, then fox needs to mail me a big check because that explanation is 1000000 times better than the shit they came up with. I shouldn't have to play the role of a Star Wars fan and rationalize and explain the idiocy of a film just to get it to make sense.


I just found this movie frustrating. I wasn't planning on seeing it at all, but my lady digs Jackman so off we went. Sure there were hokey bits, silly scenes, cliche shots and liberties taken with material. But fuck me if some of the shit they decided to throw in there weren't only unnecessary, but also incredibly stupid and detracted from my overall enjoyment of the film much more than they should have. I enjoy simple entertainment for the sake of it. I don't need everything to be a masterpiece. But bloody hell, try to be pricks and above all else be coherent.

No one is saying liberties can't be taken. There are a myriad of examples of films adapted from a source with liberties taken that don't hamper the overall quality of the product. But those changes are 1) not retarded and 2) not superfluous. Which is what I found so frustrating about this film. The majority of it was alright. Not really purchasable worthy. But then when you factor in the horrible additions, which any number of random on the spot ideas could and would of been better than, it just really drags down what could of been mediocre into B movie territory.

No one is saying a comic book film has to be a Dark Knight every time, that's preposterous. There is nothing wrong with entertaining fluff with little substance imho. I loved Ironman, by far one of my favorite comic book films. But was it an epic Dark Knight? No, it was a fun well acted loyal well funded comic book film which in the end was basically just an unsophisticated story with some pretty interesting action scene...like most comic books. Which is something the "LOL WAT U EXPACT FROM AN COMIK BOOC FILM?? LOL" people don't understand.

[Vvoid]

I forget. Did they ever finish putting the adamantium into Weapon XI before he fought at the end? If so, that's going to be a bitch to explain away if they ever do make a Deadpool movie. I mean, assuming you can explain away cyclops beams and Nightcrawler-level teleportation too.

I personally didn't like the movie much at all. It had redeeming parts, particularly the first part, but overall I felt it was nothing more than a vehicle for a big paycheck. I know lots here are saying they enjoyed it, and that's fine, but my whole problem with it was that it could have been easily made into a MUCH better film with just a little better writing and some restraint to not throw every mutant and the kitchen sink into it.

EDIT: Had this sitting here at work, and much of what The Noble Savage said above fits my feelings. However, I do believe they were actual holes in his adamantium skull, and the skin simply grew over them. Yeah, guess no one noticed those in the x-rays they invariably did later in the X-Mansion. The "mind erase" part was simply that it punched through and made scrambled eggs out of his brains, so when they regrew they were fresh and new, without memories. No idea where the adamantium bullets are. Maybe if he shakes his head hard enough he can rattle them?

At least that is my "I watch Heroes and feel the need to explain stupid shit they do so I can maintain my sanity" theory.

[Zeste]

Also - when I watched it, it was not very clear that Wade Wilson was the Deadpool at the end. It was obvious to US forum fanboys and comic followers, but if I recall, the only thing linking Wilson to the creature were 2 throwaway lines. Logan said "Wade, is that you?" on first seeing him, and I think there was another about "finally found a way to shut him up".

But yeah, I am gonna guess that to the uninformed, they won't necessarily know that Wade Wilson was the abomination at the end.

Just an idea.