Ben Stein Expelled

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Sorry, totally forgot about this thread, but I noticed more negative, and because I care so much, according to this person, Ill reply some more.

Originally Posted by AngryGerbil

You're right, it's unwinnable, and that just makes it annoy me even more.

So why did you try to argue the definition with me?

Originally Posted by Tea on tuesday

The etymology is fairly complex, but originally the word "theory" meant something akin to an orgasmic, estatic revelation. It was closely tied to Orphic notions of intoxication, which largely sprung from pre-civilized fertility cults in which the god Bacchus, who delivered alcohol to men, was widely revered for granting a piece of deific experience...i.e. drunkeness.

Early Greek philosophers drew heavily from the Orphic tradition, but revered intoxication of the mind over intoxication of the body.

It's not really relevant, but I always thought it was pretty sweet.

In my opinion this definition currently fits the use of Theory the best. =P

Originally Posted by lendarios

Did you missed the part that a theory must me Testable in order to be consider scientific.

ID is no a testable theory.

String theory still has not been formally tested.
Einstein theory of relativity has been tested. Examples were bending of light by gravitational fields, verified my telescopes early this century. Difference of atomic clocks between object in rest vs object moving.

Your right. Thanks for proving my point. Why is this stuff the leading edge in science, when it can't even be considered scientific. They are even teaching this shit to kids.

Originally Posted by Agraza

Well I'm not an expert on the terminology or physics. If I was I wouldn't have relied upon wikipedia. Thank you for the examples. Einstein's Theory of Relativity has stood up to scrutiny time and again.

No one is arguing about Relativity theory.