Ben Stein Expelled

[Asmadai]

Well there will be now, since you bumped it.

Let sleeping dogs lie, I always say.

[Chrisb3]

Random unreasearched thought: How do Creationists explain Turtles and Tortoises? Isn't that evidence of Sea -> Land evolution (or vice-versa)?

[Asmadai]

Originally Posted by Chrisb3

Random unreasearched thought: How do Creationists explain Turtles and Tortoises? Isn't that evidence of Sea -> Land evolution (or vice-versa)?

I personally don't shut out the idea of evolution just because I believe in God. I don't take the verse of 'God made all the creatures of the Earth' literal to mean that He made every single thing that ever existed and will exist on the day of Creation.

Take a polar bear for example; I can fully see how bears could evolve into that over time; yet I don't let it interfere with my belief in God at all.

I'm not the only one either, many people who believe in Christianity do not deny the existence of evolution, only to a certain degree. Animals evolving? Sure. Man evolving from monkeys? No.

Given, there are zealots who'd take the Bible for every literal meaning they could, but there are more open minded Christians than you'd think.

[Chrisb3]

So how did it happen then? Did man pop into existance one day or what?

You can see how a bear can change colour over time and you are implying that you can see how a sea animal can go from fins to legs.
But you can't see how apes changed into humans?

Apes are pretty much identical to humans other than brain size, as you said you agree that colours/fur can change so the brain size seems to be what you disagree with?
I would say that the Ape -> Human transition is one of the simpler changes that you seem to agree with for other animals, since everything is already there and is just changing shape slightly.

[Arakkis]

Millie, you just had to pole at the hornet's nest with that sick didn't you?

[Millie]

LOL.

"RISE FROM YOUR GRAVE!"

[Arakkis]

Altered Beast was awesome.

[Mazim]

Originally Posted by Mazim

I think its funny that a lot of scientist put religion off as some make believe story, and think the people who believe in this stuff are wacky, however the latest advances of science are little better. 10-30 dimensions, material you can't detect in any way, time travel, worm holes, multiple yous, ect, ect, ect.

P.S. I am not religious.

Bump cause I got some -rep for this(yes 3 months after I posted it). Whoever you are I hope you have to read it again.

If it was all based on facts, and proof there would be no such thing as theories. Theory of Relativity, is the most commonly known THEORY. They call them theories because chances are sometime somewhere, it will be proven wrong. Which a lot of it has, because most of it doesn't apply to the universe anymore, which gives us our current mess of different proofs, and theories dealing with different sizes.

That aside, all I was saying is the most current theories are just as far fetched as religions. Some of these theories even require a god like presence to be possible.

Also, since there was doubt, my current belief is that most religions are based off of Egyptian religion dealing with the Sun god. (see Zeitgeist part1)

[GrobbeeTrull2.0]

Don't you dare question Science!

[Vatoreus]

That's the thing though, science encourages people to test it and question it every step of the way... Religion...not so much.

[Agraza]

Those theories are indeed far-fetched, but they're far-fetched projections of currently believed truths about material existence. They're possibilities based on provable facts. Whether they'll pan out we don't know, but the hypothesis is an important part of science.

Scientists can make whatever fucked up claims they want. They know, being scientists, that others will test these claims for their veracity. They expect this. More often is an idea disproved than not. Likewise religious folk can make whatever fucked up claims they want, and they so often do, with the assurance no one can prove or disprove them. More than the concept of religion these individuals are loathed by scientists because they claim to incontestable knowledge.

I am unaware of any scientific theory that requires a god to be possible. Show us.

[Lefazz]

The only thing I can think of that even remotely suggests a God or creator is Fine-tuned Universe - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Mazim]

They don't call it god obviously.


String theory.(This is the cutting edge of science. /cry)

The 10th dimension is god. They would never call it that, but thats what it is basically.

[lendarios]

It is funny how you point to a video and on the same video they claim its not an accurate representation of the string theory.

[AngryGerbil]

I really wish they'd start calling it what it really is, "String Hypothesis" so that mouth breathers like Mazim can calm down.