Red Dragon

[Ecksi]

This movie made me hate life. I would give this movie a "D -;" A being excellent (Apocalypse Now) and an "F" being Scary Movie 1 & 2.

Normally when I am watching a movie, regret isnt something I feel. However, Red Dragon gave me that rare tingling - etching away at my sanity, begging me to leave. I kept thinking, "Come on man, this will get better, how can any movie be THIS bad," but nay, I was wrong.

Horrible editing. Every shot had the horizon horizontal to the viewing plane. This can make a movie feel flat. If they wanted us to get a feeling for the main anti-hero's lack of sanity, perhaps an appropriate oblique shot would have been in order. Think the early Batman live television series, only not so fucking stupid.

Flat, horrible characters. Five one-dimensional characters I never felt any sense of connection with dominating the story, completly oblitirating any sense of realism, which they tried so desperatly to cling on to. Every scene involving the two main detectives always resulted in a major breakthrough in the case, and that can be very tiring.

Back to the regret. I only regret I didnt leave the movie early, or had never seen it at all. Oh well, as they say, we have 20/20 hine sight.

[Xaen]

Dunno what movie you saw, but Red Dragon was on par with Silence of the Lambs. It was really really good. Edward Norton played his character incredible. And the plot twists were fantastic. I had never read or seen Manhunter, so nothing was spoiled for me. It's a movie i'll be buying on DVD, unlike Hannibal which was total trash.

[Ishalim02]

/agree Xaen

You're an idiot Ecksi.

[Ecksi]

Ishalim02,

I now clearly see what audience this was marketed to. Let me see if I can make this clearer, I study anatomy in my spare time (I'm an artist), you probably spend your spare time watching sitcoms. One type of personality contributes to society, one clearly does not, although you have uses as well (i.e. trash collector, janitor, etc.)

I've had a college level vocabulary since elementary school, despite my dyslexia and ADD (ADD is such a loose term, every male in my family has been diagnosed with it since it has become such a fad.) Anyways, I'm no idiot, compared to the average person.


Xaen,

Personally I liked Hannibal, never saw Silence of the Lambs although I wish to. Perhaps I would have liked Red Dragon more if I would have seen Silence.

My inital review was a little negative, but the story could have been great! The Red Dragon was a great character, it's just the way the movie was "cropped" that probably struck me wrong.

As for plot twists, the old "Oh wait the bad guy isn't dead he is actually alive and in your house!" gig is a little hackneyd. Great examples of plot twists are at the end of Se7en, and to a lesser extent Apocalypse Now.

The theatre I was in also had a terrible sound system.

All I know is that when I left the theatre I was not the only one expressing dissapointment.

[beepbeepbeep]

Damn Ecksi, you're so modest.

Also I wouldn't call artists a contributing member of society, maybe contributing memer of a culture but not society. You making a work of art does nothing for me, save perhaps aesthetic appreciation (which is a personal opinion, I may hate your work of art).

Even if he was a janitor or trash collector, someone has to do those jobs, and they most certainly do contribute to society. Them doing menial labor prevents you from having to do it. Don't set yourself up on a pedestal.

For all you know he could be an engineer or something anyway.

But anyway, not nice to call someone an idiot because they didn't like a movie that you did.

The end.

[Ecksi]

My reply to Ishalim02 was supposed to be less factual, more insulting. I'm not very good at that kind of thing anyways.

[gn0me]

Then may I suggest you shut the fuck up.

[Robot]

So you haven't seen Silence of the Lambs, but you consider yourself an authority on reviewing movies that are directly related to the above mentioned movie?

Yes, you ARE far and away more brilliant than all of us combined and shaken vigorously.

[dbx]

Hi this is Ecksi! The other night I was eating a hamburger and got a chubby!

The movie was good. It was more straight forward than the other two films. The romantic edge between hannibal and starling obviously wasn't there, but I felt they more than made up for that with tie in's to the later movies. There is no such thing as a perfect movie, there are ones you like more than others and ones you hate more than others. It's easy to nit pick at things you would have done differently in any film.

[quechal]

You liked Hanibal?

Clearly a sign that you are a tard. Can movie threads be rickshawed?

[Ecksi]

Yes I liked Hannibal, the part at the end where he is eating that guys brains was fucking hilarious.

"but you consider yourself an authority on reviewing movies"

No, actually, I dont. I have no idea where you would have drawn that conclusion from.

[Synd D`nys]

Hannibal was terrible. This coming from someone who thinks that Ridley Scott is a god.

[Ecksi]

Okay, what about Hannibal was terrible?

[Fris_Leafshadow]

I enjoyed Hannible, thought it was very good. Lambs was excelent as well. People who like Lambs but not Hannible were probably looking for something original. Lambs shocked the world when it was released. Cant happen again.

I'm glad people disagree on Red Dragon, that means I'll probably enjoy it.


I watched Manhunter just before Hannible came out, it was ok. You're not missing much if you never see it.

[dak]

Red Dragon wasnt that great, the characters lacked dimension(Yes, ive read all 3 books) and the acting was subpar at best...look at the scene when the Red Dragon was about to blow the blind womans brains out in the ring of fire....if that isnt shit acting I dont know what is.


Edward Norton should stick to playing a schizo and the guy who played the Red Dragon should limit himself to being a Nicolas Cage stunt double.

The movie opened great, warm colors, good camera angles but after Norton took down Hopkins it went down hill fast.

The director focused too much time trying to piss the audience off at the red dragon for killing families and not enough time seriously developing the guys persona as a whole...and that is the core element of the book. In this movie you learn more about Hannibal then you do about the primary villian and it leaves people going WTF. Just from the movie all you get about the Red Dragon is that he thinks he is deformed for SOME reason which they never hit on...and that his caretaker was abusive and that for SOME reason he thinks he is becoming a 1700s watercolor figure.

Red Dragon isnt bad enough to totally turn me off to the HL franchise but its enough to make me wait a while to see another movie released on the subject. SoTL blows RD out of the water, the two arnt even comparable. Even Hannibal dispite its many flaws was better then RD ten fold.