Wall-E

[Kiksar]

Originally Posted by Occido

Wow -internets cuz you guys are all butt-hurt.. sad, really sad. Over Pixar shit even... can't help but laugh.

+internets to all. Now you've done no harm and you're still soulless, I think we win.

Also, handing out negative internets and hiding your -16 was a good call.

[Occido]

Nothing wrong with being soulless.

[Awanka]

Originally Posted by Occido

Wow -internets cuz you guys are all butt-hurt.. sad, really sad. Over Pixar shit even... can't help but laugh.

It is hilarious to see supposedly grown men get so angsty over light-hearted cartoons. That they can't handle any opinion that doesn't involve riding WALL-E cock shows you what sorts of mindsets are at work in this thread. What's next? Is someone going to threaten to murder over Bugs Bunny?

[Awanka]

Originally Posted by Alamando

Thank you for sharing your thoughts of a movie you have not watched with us. I even liked the part where after someone tried to initiate actual discussion, you called them childish.

Are you aware that words have exact meanings? That they are in fact defined? That you can't just say any shit and have it be true? Childish is someone saying that they tend to like different types of movie than Pixar, and immediately being accused of having shitty taste by random fucktards that can't handle any view that isn't theirs. I love the part about "initiating actual discussion." So if I call you a robot-cock-sucking fuckstick that was probably raped while watching cartoons for adoring Wall-E, that would be me initiating thoughtful debate?

This thread has shined a light on some truly pathetic people. I wonder how you guys function in the real world where not everyone agrees on the same thing.

[Alamando]

Originally Posted by Awanka

This thread has shined a light on some truly pathetic people. I wonder how you guys function in the real world where not everyone agrees on the same thing.

What is the exact word for someone who calls a fairly neutral reply "crying and bitching"? The replies supporting Wall-E and Pixar in the past page have the tone of "Hey, you should check this out" instead of "NEMO IS A GOD FUK OFFFFFFFF.

Your ass got trolled so hard that it game back for more, though. Good for you.

Oh, wait, there's that exact word. Trolled. Huh.

[Kiksar]

Originally Posted by Awanka

This thread has shined a light on some truly pathetic people. I wonder how you guys function in the real world where not everyone agrees on the same thing.

The "everybody has an opinion, don't get all bent out of shape about it" card is over-played and pretty silly. People who are passionate about things are likely responsible for most (if not all) of what you enjoy in art and entertainment. Passionate people almost always defend their opinions, perhaps more leniently to the informed, but especially to the ignorant (starts with an O).

The goal isn't to have everyone agree on the same thing, it's to defend what you believe to be true based on what you know or think you know, and it happens in the "real world" too. The people who do the most interesting things in society likely argue about what they're into. The internet provides a disconnect that makes most people a bit braver and more insulting, but you're as or more guilty of that than anyone else here.

So people calling you or anyone else out on shit taste and opinions aren't a bunch of fuck-ups incapable of functioning outside of the internet's walls. Sometimes they are, but more than likely they get along in the real world just fine, as you probably do too.

Wall-E isn't limited to being a lighthearted cartoon not worth argument. It represents what inspired most of us growing up, it's art, and it makes points that will be interpreted differently by each age group. It covers darker themes than most children's entertainment but it's subtle and effective in its delivery to that audience. For the more grown up, it's social commentary that works so well because of the simplicity in which it's presented (and it's a rather charming love story for those of us capable of feeling).

As an animated movie, it's one of the bravest since Fantasia. It tells a complete story in which the main two characters say about five different words. It is one of the most expensive animated movies ever made and it didn't use Will Smith's name to sell any tickets. Pixar has employed the most talented people in the industry to make huge budget movies with legitimate artistic integrity. These are all things that are absolutely worth defending them for.

You don't live in a world where everyone is accepting and passive about other people's opinions, so quit copping out. Make some legitimate arguments or keep being an asshole that most people here appear to hate.

[Venjenz]

I am just a fan of a well done story, and WALL_E was a well done story...period.

Great love story, great social commentary beyond just the "people are fat and lazy" bit, and a great range of emotions throughout.

I think the first 30 minutes are awesome because there's no real dialogue per se. IMHO, the fact that there is very little human dialogue at all is a huge plus to the film, but I like a ton of silent movies and always have. I also like a good old fashioned love story, and WALL-E is a classic love story for sure.

Best Pixar flick to date, no question, and one of the best flicks I have seen in years.

My wife didn't get it and was like "eh, it was nice" but that's because she hates sci-fi in any amount. I swear that I could take one her freaking Jane Austen movies, add a lightsaber and she'd fucking hate it. So clearly not everyone will groove on WALL-E, but I loved it.

[chaos]

I'm a big fan of both Pixar and Disney stuff. I went and saw the Lion King musical this weekend at the Kennedy Center on Friday, and then saw Wall-E on Monday. It's really just an amazing movie, very well done in all respects. But it was Pixar, pretty much expected for it to be amazing.

[Horse]

Originally Posted by Alamando

What is the exact word for someone who calls a fairly neutral reply "crying and bitching"? The replies supporting Wall-E and Pixar in the past page have the tone of "Hey, you should check this out" instead of "NEMO IS A GOD FUK OFFFFFFFF.

Your ass got trolled so hard that it game back for more, though. Good for you.

Oh, wait, there's that exact word. Trolled. Huh.

"your shitty taste or your not knowing any better"

Totally neutral

[Awanka]

Originally Posted by Kiksar

The "everybody has an opinion, don't get all bent out of shape about it" card is over-played and pretty silly. People who are passionate about things are likely responsible for most (if not all) of what you enjoy in art and entertainment. Passionate people almost always defend their opinions, perhaps more leniently to the informed, but especially to the ignorant (starts with an O).

The goal isn't to have everyone agree on the same thing, it's to defend what you believe to be true based on what you know or think you know, and it happens in the "real world" too. The people who do the most interesting things in society likely argue about what they're into. The internet provides a disconnect that makes most people a bit braver and more insulting, but you're as or more guilty of that than anyone else here.

The problem isn't with people being passionate, it's with them being so insecure wih themselves and what they like that if other people don't like the same things, they go into screeching histronics, jumping around, making snide comments, and in general acting like despicable little fucks. If someone saw one of Monet's paintings, and didn't like it, preferred a more gothic style for instance, do you think Claude would start hopping around, accusing them of having shit taste, and getting up in their face and demanding that they're wrong? I would hope he would be a bit more open-minded and classy then that.

Originally Posted by Kiksar

Wall-E isn't limited to being a lighthearted cartoon not worth argument. It represents what inspired most of us growing up, it's art, and it makes points that will be interpreted differently by each age group. It covers darker themes than most children's entertainment but it's subtle and effective in its delivery to that audience. For the more grown up, it's social commentary that works so well because of the simplicity in which it's presented (and it's a rather charming love story for those of us capable of feeling).

As an animated movie, it's one of the bravest since Fantasia. It tells a complete story in which the main two characters say about five different words. It is one of the most expensive animated movies ever made and it didn't use Will Smith's name to sell any tickets. Pixar has employed the most talented people in the industry to make huge budget movies with legitimate artistic integrity. These are all things that are absolutely worth defending them for.

You don't live in a world where everyone is accepting and passive about other people's opinions, so quit copping out. Make some legitimate arguments or keep being an asshole that most people here appear to hate.

Darker themes? Social commentary? Please, give me just one fucking break. What are you trying to sell? Wall-E had an environmental message about irresponsibility that would have made Al Gore blush with its lack of subtlety. Even with the post-apocalyptic setting, the themes are bright white compared to CGI movies like Beowulf. I've already made my arguments for why I thought this movie was "only" decent. You just either don't understand or refuse to see them. I didn't make an essay about it because I don't think the topic warrants one, but here it is again for the reading-handicapped:

Wall-E's action scenes were mediocre. They involve the kind of Jackie-Chan jumping around frantically physical comedy that I find lame. Wall-E wasn't really that funny. Comedy is subjective so it's a waste of time to argue this one. Worst part about the movie? It's sappy. The central love story about robots in love is as lame as the mawkish oversentiment in Spirited Away, a cartoon movie that I thought was terrible. The fact that I don't think Wall-E is awful for this reason alone is a mark of how much I enjoyed other aspects of the movie. The animation was very good. The narrative was creative, and I agree, bold. The artistry of vision was excellent. On technical merits, it's a very good movie. I didn't like it, because like I said in my original post, which the true assholes jumped all over, I don't like syrupy saccharine love stories between robots with cute affectations. It's the same reason I never really got into "My Little Pony." It seems many did not get past this childhood fixation, but I'm not trying to judge. Now you can come to the realization that some people just don't like this kind of story, or you can keep being an indignant cranked-up pussy over a light-hearted cartoon.

[Kiksar]

Originally Posted by Awanka

...as lame as the mawkish oversentiment in Spirited Away, a cartoon movie that I thought was terrible.

This is where we realize that our differences are too fundamental for it to be worth arguing this point anymore. Thanks for responding, at least.

[Alamando]

Originally Posted by Horse

"your shitty taste or your not knowing any better"

Totally neutral

Welcome to FoH. We hope you enjoy your stay, then die in a fucking fire. ^_^

Given the normal level of discourse on these forums, Kiksar's posting has been a beacon of rational thought.

Originally Posted by Awanka

The problem isn't with people being passionate, it's with them being so insecure wih themselves and what they like that if other people don't like the same things, they go into screeching histronics, jumping around, making snide comments, and in general acting like despicable little fucks.

Says the one currently engaged in screeching histronics.

[Vvoid]

I really liked the movie and thought it was much better done than people give it credit for, particularly since there was very little dialogue to help it along. I won't argue that people should like a sappy robot love story; I did, and therefore I really enjoyed it. I also hate Al Gore and Global Warming and pretty much anything with the word "green" in it nowadays, but the "message" didn't bother me one bit or prevent me from loving the movie.

All internet dickheadedness aside, if you've never watched The Incredibles you are doing yourself a horrible disservice. Maybe you won't like that either, but I think it is probably their best movie to date and the one most likely to be enjoyed by people that frequent this site. However, if I were to rate The Incredibles as a 10 out of 10, all of their other movies would pretty much be at least a 9 to me, so take my recommendation with however many grains of salt you feel necessary.

[Eonan]

I haven't seen the movie yet but I am hoping to some time this weekend.

Derail: For those of you with Showtime you should take a look at "The Pixar Story", a documentary on well...Pixar. Personally my favorite movie by them so far has been Ratatouille.

[Thistlebottom]

I saw this movie yesterday. I thought it was well done, and yah the robot love story was really good. I even sniffed back a tear at how lonely Wall-E was. I think everyone can relate to that a little bit. Anyway, i would recommend this movie to anyone.