Star Trek movie?

[The Edge]

Originally Posted by Malakriss

Warp drive - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The rest of that:

"The warp factors above warp 10 in the TOS, such as the one above, were slower than warp 10 on the new scale, which reaches an asymptote at warp 10, representing infinite velocity in accordance with the limit imposed by the producers. The Star Trek: Voyager episode "Threshold" concurred with this: the characters ruled that reaching the velocity of warp 10 was impossible — in spite of this, they went on to achieve the velocity, experiencing a peculiar side-effect; they underwent a [reversible] process of hyper-evolution culminating in their transformation into anthropomorphic newts. In this episode, Tom Paris elucidates that, while traveling at warp 10, he was simultaneously present in every part of the universe. At this velocity, the Shuttlecraft Cochrane's sensors are able to collect such enormous amounts of telemetry that the shuttle's storage capacity is completely filled.

The limit of 10 did not entirely stop warp inflation. By the mid-24th century, the Enterprise-D could travel at warp 9.8 at "extreme risk", while normal maximum operating velocity was warp 9.6 and maximum rated cruise was warp 9.2. The Intrepid-class starship Voyager has a maximum sustainable cruising velocity of warp 9.975. In the alternate future depicted in "All Good Things..." (the final episode of the Star Trek:TNG), however, Federation starships travel at warp 14, apparently having solved the side effects depicted in "Threshold" episode of Voyager, though this may be due to a new warp scale having been created where warp 14 is actually under the limit."

[Gaereth]

Really enjoyed this movie.

There were so many moments that just felt right, the little lines from well known characters, the characters themselves and how they really seemed to fit. The homage to Wrath of Khan around Titan...just a splendid movie.

[Snugglebear]

Originally Posted by The Edge

The rest of that:

"The warp factors above warp 10 in the TOS, such as the one above, were slower than warp 10 on the new scale, which reaches an asymptote at warp 10, representing infinite velocity in accordance with the limit imposed by the producers. The Star Trek: Voyager episode "Threshold" concurred with this: the characters ruled that reaching the velocity of warp 10 was impossible — in spite of this, they went on to achieve the velocity, experiencing a peculiar side-effect; they underwent a [reversible] process of hyper-evolution culminating in their transformation into anthropomorphic newts. In this episode, Tom Paris elucidates that, while traveling at warp 10, he was simultaneously present in every part of the universe. At this velocity, the Shuttlecraft Cochrane's sensors are able to collect such enormous amounts of telemetry that the shuttle's storage capacity is completely filled.

The limit of 10 did not entirely stop warp inflation. By the mid-24th century, the Enterprise-D could travel at warp 9.8 at "extreme risk", while normal maximum operating velocity was warp 9.6 and maximum rated cruise was warp 9.2. The Intrepid-class starship Voyager has a maximum sustainable cruising velocity of warp 9.975. In the alternate future depicted in "All Good Things..." (the final episode of the Star Trek:TNG), however, Federation starships travel at warp 14, apparently having solved the side effects depicted in "Threshold" episode of Voyager, though this may be due to a new warp scale having been created where warp 14 is actually under the limit."

That Voyager episode was retarded. Didn't Janeway and Kim devolve into lizards and have sex? Gimme a break, what a retarded way to enforce the warp limit.

[Kreugen]

I like how they used the 'dead hero father' change to make Kirk's ridiculously huge balls even bigger - making him into the kind of kid that gets into a four on one fight with a joke and a smile. Seriously, the character is just a dick with a mouth at this point, and I mean that in the best possible way.

I may have only a passing interest in the TV series, but I know that Kirk would whip his cock out and slap Picard across the face while taking a shit on Riker's chest. Seriously. Picard holds fucking meetings with his officers to make decisions. Sure, he mostly ignores them all, but he makes the effort. Cadet Kirk just strolls onto the bridge and calls everyone dumbfucks and punches a few people for good measure. Balls, man. He is all that is man. And MUCH to my surprise, Chris Pine pulled it off greatly. The Kobiashi Maru scene should be how he acts the ENTIRE time. They are firing on us? Yeah, fuck, whatever. What time is lunch? That would be fitting and hysterical.

So yeah, I thought the movie was a blast. Kirk/Spock/McCoy as characters just shit all over the lame crap they've tried to continue the series with, so a reboot is very welcome to me. I now have a mancrush on James Brosepherus Kirk. Jack Bauer in space, man.

PS: I totally thought near the end that they'd wind up in an alternate universe where mankind are evil imperialists, roll credits. It's one of the few episodes that I can recall and I've watched too much Lost to not expect something like that to happen.

[Schatze]

GF even liked it, and her usual response is "I hated Star Wars!"... Even if the movie is not sci-fi, not Star Wars-like at all, or at all related.

So it gets the, "Hates everything at all related to Star Wars (somehow) but was appealing!" award.

[Grooverider]

Originally Posted by Kreugen

I like how they used the 'dead hero father' change to make Kirk's ridiculously huge balls even bigger - making him into the kind of kid that gets into a four on one fight with a joke and a smile. Seriously, the character is just a dick with a mouth at this point, and I mean that in the best possible way.

I may have only a passing interest in the TV series, but I know that Kirk would whip his cock out and slap Picard across the face while taking a shit on Riker's chest. Seriously. Picard holds fucking meetings with his officers to make decisions. Sure, he mostly ignores them all, but he makes the effort. Cadet Kirk just strolls onto the bridge and calls everyone dumbfucks and punches a few people for good measure. Balls, man. He is all that is man. And MUCH to my surprise, Chris Pine pulled it off greatly. The Kobiashi Maru scene should be how he acts the ENTIRE time. They are firing on us? Yeah, fuck, whatever. What time is lunch? That would be fitting and hysterical.

So yeah, I thought the movie was a blast. Kirk/Spock/McCoy as characters just shit all over the lame crap they've tried to continue the series with, so a reboot is very welcome to me. I now have a mancrush on James Brosepherus Kirk. Jack Bauer in space, man.

PS: I totally thought near the end that they'd wind up in an alternate universe where mankind are evil imperialists, roll credits. It's one of the few episodes that I can recall and I've watched too much Lost to not expect something like that to happen.

Yes.

[Dumar]

Originally Posted by Kreugen

I like how they used the 'dead hero father' change to make Kirk's ridiculously huge balls even bigger - making him into the kind of kid that gets into a four on one fight with a joke and a smile. Seriously, the character is just a dick with a mouth at this point, and I mean that in the best possible way.

I may have only a passing interest in the TV series, but I know that Kirk would whip his cock out and slap Picard across the face while taking a shit on Riker's chest. Seriously. Picard holds fucking meetings with his officers to make decisions. Sure, he mostly ignores them all, but he makes the effort. Cadet Kirk just strolls onto the bridge and calls everyone dumbfucks and punches a few people for good measure. Balls, man. He is all that is man. And MUCH to my surprise, Chris Pine pulled it off greatly. The Kobiashi Maru scene should be how he acts the ENTIRE time. They are firing on us? Yeah, fuck, whatever. What time is lunch? That would be fitting and hysterical.

So yeah, I thought the movie was a blast. Kirk/Spock/McCoy as characters just shit all over the lame crap they've tried to continue the series with, so a reboot is very welcome to me. I now have a mancrush on James Brosepherus Kirk. Jack Bauer in space, man.

PS: I totally thought near the end that they'd wind up in an alternate universe where mankind are evil imperialists, roll credits. It's one of the few episodes that I can recall and I've watched too much Lost to not expect something like that to happen.

that's the exact antithesis of what star trek is. it's the very opposite of what gene wanted to and did create. it's like saying white kicks ass and black is much better as white. it doesn't make sense at any level. it's not a 'retelling' of any story. it's a different story completely with, for money's sake, the same name.

i'm not debating here; i'm telling you. this is gene's vision; star trek is here because of him. and what paramount has done, for money, is exactly what he refused the networks 40 years ago.

you can like the shallow movie all you want, i don't care. but it's not star trek, despite what the title says and all the kids happen to call it.

[Blank]

Originally Posted by Dumar

okay, i won't say anymore. enjoy your mindless and shallow garbage. i'm sure 'jj' enjoyed raping the corpse of star trek.

Truth be told, you stayed away from this thread longer than I thought you would.

[Dumar]

Originally Posted by Blank

Truth be told, you stayed away from this thread longer than I thought you would.

well, i won't comment on the movie anymore. but when one brings it up with regards to gene and his legacy, i, unfortunately under criticism, will have to point out the lying and show the truth. sorries if that offends.

[Soygen]

Thread Dumar'd! /end

[tanjo]

Dumar, didn't anyone ever beat your ass when you were young? You seem to have never learned to stop talking when no one gives a fuck what you're saying. I bet your mom nursed you until you were 16. Maybe you're just slow--as in mentally retarded.

[Sithro]

Oh Jesus Christ.

Look, the things that were interesting to people in the 60s and 70s just don't work anymore. Unless you wanted Trek to die, something had to be done to excite people again. If they can hook people, maybe they can sort of nudge to the old school Trek again (exploration and morals and what not), but if they had continued to just try and please the Trekkies, there would be no more Star Trek.

Is this Gene's Star Trek? No. But is the Superman of today the Superman that Jerry Seigel and Joe Shuster envisioned? Hell no, that Superman couldn't even fucking fly.

This new universe doesn't mean they can't explore and all that anymore, but they can't do it in the first movie at very least. They needed to hook people and grab people's interest again or Trek was going to be finished.

[Dumar]

Originally Posted by tanjo

Dumar, didn't anyone ever beat your ass when you were young? You seem to have never learned to stop talking when no one gives a fuck what you're saying. I bet your mom nursed you until you were 16. Maybe you're just slow--as in mentally retarded.

i could care less if people listen. i will not sit idly by while lies are passed for truth and people trash roddenberry's legacy, one that he built over 25 some years. i won't allow it squandered with euphemisms. because that's what it is, and audience or not, it will be corrected.

Originally Posted by Sithro

Oh Jesus Christ. [...]

yeah you can oh jesus christ all you want. you can call me or other trekkies negative nancies, elitist, nerdy, antisocial, whatever word suits your point of view. i don't care. you can enjoy some character named kirk listening to beastie boys on his product placed nokia, driving hot rods off cliffs, throwin back a few product placed buds, hitting on bitches and getting into fights all you want. i don't care with what you choose to entertain yourself or how you spend your money. what i do care about is a man's passion and legacy, built up over 3 decades, to be marginalized. those lies need to and will be called out. i would rather trek stay dead than be reduced to this.

star trek was intelligent entertainment that challenged viewers ideals and world views. just last night, i randomly popped in 'the masterpiece society', and it was as valid and relevant to social discourse as when it was written.

but it makes no difference if you didn't like star trek; that's np. but to equate that passion and vision with this new one, to say that this one is somehow equal in measure or artistic integrity, then yes i will fucking post til your monkey-assed eyes bleed.

because they're not equal, not in any sense of the word. it's not 'a re-imagining for a new generation'; it's dumbed-down, ADD kiddie-induced nonsense. no euphemisms alllowed. you don't say candy land has an equal amount of depth as chess, and likewise here. it's an action movie full of stop-go action scenes with fill-in-the-blank drama and sex appeal. again to be clear: you are free to enjoy the movie all you want, but when you start comparing it to what gene made, you will get an answer from me.

[Sithro]

Where did I say this was equal? It's different.

For a lot of people it was the characters, the ships, adventures,etc, that they liked about Trek. Not it's depth.

And no one is shitting on Gene's work. In fact, because it's an alternate universe, the original one still exists with everything still in order. This is a new one, for a new generation. Just because you disagree with how it's presented doesn't make it not Trek. It's just a different kind of Trek.

And for your information, I'm a fan of TOS, and TNG as well. I don't consider myself much of a Trekkie, because I don't know every detail about it. But I've always liked the shows, even Enterprise.

[Caliane]

Originally Posted by Dumar

star trek was intelligent entertainment that challenged viewers ideals and world views. just last night, i randomly popped in 'the masterpiece society', and it was as valid and relevant to social discourse as when it was written.

Your glasses. They are made of rose.
This is not to say there were not some good ideals and concepts thrown around here and there. but the pedestal you place it on, is absurd.