Robotech: The Shadow Chronicles (new thread). - Page 2

Eomer · 01-18-2007, 01:53 PM

newp, it's Jack McKinney: ROBOTECH.COM - The Official Robotech Web Site!

lol wait, at the bottom of that link:

Quote:

Jack McKinney has been a psychiatric aide, rock-fusion guitarist and session man, worldwide wilderness guide, and "consultant" to the U.S. Military in Southeast Asia (although they had to draft him for that).

His numerous other works of mainstream and science fiction - novels, radio and television scripts - have been written under various pseudonyms.

Publisher's Note: While accurate, the above is actually a composite biography of two authors who agreed to merge minds and identities to become Jack McKinney, and reflects the influence of various friends and advisors for the Robotech series.

I don't fucking know. Everything about the Robotech universe is so convoluted.

Zarcath · 01-18-2007, 05:13 PM

They showed Shadow Chronicles at the Film Festival. I think it was just the first 2-3 episodes they showed. As a Robotech fan, I was happy to be watching a new series, especially on the big screen. But, it really felt too clean, and some of the characters were really americanized influence of anime. All the chicks have huge boobs in a bad way.

Aulirophile · 01-18-2007, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dokomo

Actually, Carl Macex was not the writer of the series, just the books. The End of the Circle is the only thing that is his alone.

It was a direct quote from Macek. I doubt he did all the writing, but the combining it into one story was his idea and he had final say on everything concerning the US television series. Now the books I have nfc who was responsible, but Macek as the creator/executive producer is in the roll credits on the Robotech show and have been since they aired in the US in the first place. Granted he may have been giving himself more credit then he deserved.

And Eomer that's... weird. A composite Author, that's new to me.

EnigmaticParadigm · 02-17-2007, 10:26 PM

Bought it last night. First the bad...

Bad: The computer animation sucked. Actually, sucked isn't a strong enought word. Remember that one computer animated show on called "Reboot?" Yeah, it was ten times worse than that. I can't hammer in how awful it was. Some of the dialogue was pretty bad, too; not sure what audience it was going for: old-school fans or new fans.

Good: Awesome to have the old characters involved with the same voice actors from the original series. Hearing Rick Hunter and Scott Bernard voice new lines was $$. The plot that takes place after the final Invid series was actually pretty inventive (if not now confusing considering all the books that have been written since then to make up for the "missing" time).

Final Thoughts: Despite the SHITTY animation, I would really like more. I think everyone has their "nerd" cartoon that somewhat defines them as a child. For some, it was Transformers, GI Joe, Voltron, etc. For me, it was definately Robotech. I remember watching it on TV as a kid when I was...what...8 (1984)? It was the only cartoon that I can remember at that age where people actually DIED (R.I.P Roy). I was absolutely mesmerized by it. It is what first turned me on to Anime --> Voltron, then DBZ, then more sophisticated "snob" anime, etc etc. I don't regret spending the money at all.

Now, not that anyone cares, but in case anyone from Funimation, Carl Macek (sp?), et al are reading this...

eh, hem...

FINISH THE FUCKING SENTINELS, YOU FUCKING BASTARDS.

I want to get my nerd on, dammit before I die. Watching the Regent die on TV will make a part of my geek soul rise up to virgin heaven and rest in peace.

EnigmaticParadigm · 02-17-2007, 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EnigmaticParadigm

Bought it last night. First the bad...

Bad: The computer animation sucked. Actually, sucked isn't a strong enought word. Remember that one computer animated show on called "Reboot?" Yeah, it was ten times worse than that. I can't hammer in how awful it was. Some of the dialogue was pretty bad, too; not sure what audience it was going for: old-school fans or new fans.

Good: Awesome to have the old characters involved with the same voice actors from the original series. Hearing Rick Hunter and Scott Bernard voice new lines was $$. The plot that takes place after the final Invid series was actually pretty inventive (if not now confusing considering all the books that have been written since then to make up for the "missing" time).

Final Thoughts: Despite the SHITTY animation, I would really like more. I think everyone has their "nerd" cartoon that somewhat defines them as a child. For some, it was Transformers, GI Joe, Voltron, etc. For me, it was definately Robotech. I remember watching it on TV as a kid when I was...what...8 (1984)? It was the only cartoon that I can remember at that age where people actually DIED (R.I.P Roy). I was absolutely mesmerized by it. It is what first turned me on to Anime --> Voltron, then DBZ, then more sophisticated "snob" anime, etc etc. I don't regret spending the money at all.

Now, not that anyone cares, but in case anyone from Funimation, Carl Macek (sp?), et al are reading this...

eh, hem...

FINISH THE FUCKING SENTINELS, YOU FUCKING BASTARDS.

I want to get my nerd on, dammit before I die. Watching the Regent die on TV will make a part of my geek soul rise up to virgin heaven and rest in peace.

QFdrinkingT

Tabris · 02-20-2007, 07:51 AM

Carl Macek originally came up with the story for the US TV series (blending together 3 unrelated Japanese series), Jack McKinney (pseudonym for two authors who co-wrote the books) wrote the entire 21 book novel series. There were many continuity differences between the TV series and the novel series, and Robotech 'purists' think the novels suck.

However, the books are actually pretty darn good. The End of the Circle is one of my favorite novels just for all the badass stuff that happens and getting all the generations of characters together.

Eomer · 02-26-2007, 10:12 AM

I always thought that the books were quite a good compliment to the series, and personally I didn't notice any continuity problems. But that's probably because I only ever read/watched Macross, Sentinels, and End of the Circle. I imagine things got really convoluted in Masters and NG because of all the kids of characters running around, people coming back into the picture etc.

01-18-2007, 05:13 PM	#17 (permalink)
Zarcath is a little tea pot. Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Carlsbad CA Posts: 6,465 +75 Internets	They showed Shadow Chronicles at the Film Festival. I think it was just the first 2-3 episodes they showed. As a Robotech fan, I was happy to be watching a new series, especially on the big screen. But, it really felt too clean, and some of the characters were really americanized influence of anime. All the chicks have huge boobs in a bad way. __________________

02-17-2007, 10:26 PM	#19 (permalink)
EnigmaticParadigm Is Kermit gunna have to make a bitch go "GLARRRRGH?!" Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Pre World War III America Posts: 2,577 +286 Internets	Bought it last night. First the bad... Bad: The computer animation sucked. Actually, sucked isn't a strong enought word. Remember that one computer animated show on called "Reboot?" Yeah, it was ten times worse than that. I can't hammer in how awful it was. Some of the dialogue was pretty bad, too; not sure what audience it was going for: old-school fans or new fans. Good: Awesome to have the old characters involved with the same voice actors from the original series. Hearing Rick Hunter and Scott Bernard voice new lines was $$. The plot that takes place after the final Invid series was actually pretty inventive (if not now confusing considering all the books that have been written since then to make up for the "missing" time). Final Thoughts: Despite the SHITTY animation, I would really like more. I think everyone has their "nerd" cartoon that somewhat defines them as a child. For some, it was Transformers, GI Joe, Voltron, etc. For me, it was definately Robotech. I remember watching it on TV as a kid when I was...what...8 (1984)? It was the only cartoon that I can remember at that age where people actually DIED (R.I.P Roy). I was absolutely mesmerized by it. It is what first turned me on to Anime --> Voltron, then DBZ, then more sophisticated "snob" anime, etc etc. I don't regret spending the money at all. Now, not that anyone cares, but in case anyone from Funimation, Carl Macek (sp?), et al are reading this... eh, hem... FINISH THE FUCKING SENTINELS, YOU FUCKING BASTARDS. I want to get my nerd on, dammit before I die. Watching the Regent die on TV will make a part of my geek soul rise up to virgin heaven and rest in peace. __________________

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02-20-2007, 07:51 AM	#21 (permalink)
Tabris Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,612 -21 Internets	Carl Macek originally came up with the story for the US TV series (blending together 3 unrelated Japanese series), Jack McKinney (pseudonym for two authors who co-wrote the books) wrote the entire 21 book novel series. There were many continuity differences between the TV series and the novel series, and Robotech 'purists' think the novels suck. However, the books are actually pretty darn good. The End of the Circle is one of my favorite novels just for all the badass stuff that happens and getting all the generations of characters together.

02-26-2007, 10:12 AM	#22 (permalink)
Eomer You mean I can change this? Neat! Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,975 +66 Internets	I always thought that the books were quite a good compliment to the series, and personally I didn't notice any continuity problems. But that's probably because I only ever read/watched Macross, Sentinels, and End of the Circle. I imagine things got really convoluted in Masters and NG because of all the kids of characters running around, people coming back into the picture etc.