The Transformers Movie

[Lyenae]

If you were a 5 year old juicebox retard when you watched the original Transformers, then you can call it mindless entertainment.

You should go watch some original episodes on TV Links

80's cartoons were fucking epic.

[Malakriss]

Went to see this again tonight, as this was a particular boring Sunday and I'd already seen Harry Potter #5. Surprisingly, the theater was packed as more people went to see this than Mr. Potter. Warning Spoilers Ahead

First order of business: Product Placement. Overall this was not so bad, most placements were only once and not in an unexpected places for the shot. However, there were glaring exceptions who obviously paid double: Panasonic and GMC. There's no reason to even focus on the Panasonic memory card, and they did it twice, both coming out and going in the computer drives. GMC also did the double-take, both with Ironhide's introduction and the tow truck later on, with the logo front and center.

The Sector 7 and John Turturro bits weren't that bad, except they did try to force the humor too much with the T-shirt/boxers and the radio/mic scene. In other parts the one liners were fairly well done, and the awkward story parts were kept to a minimum.

Revisiting the action scenes I do believe there was a short street battle shot with Barricade attacking in the background, so maybe he was meant to pin the soldiers down along with Devastator but a scene got clipped, so it wasn't very clear. Also some people expressed some inaccurate details over the military effectiveness. Blackout did get owned by missiles/gunfire, take that how you will. Megatron did take 6 missiles from the jets Starscream didn't destroy, but he was still standing and moving. The only reason he went down is because Optimus chop-blocked to protect Sam. To the people claiming the jets fubared Megatron, sorry, but you didn't remember it correctly.

This movie was a great adaption from the cartoon series, a great introduction for the triology, and far more enjoyable than other movies this year. Also for people that didn't stay for credits, you missed 3 small scenes: Sam's parents getting interviewed and saying the government would tell us if there was aliens (they never actually saw them), Sam's mom giving a liner about how your head looks different on TV, and Starscream flying out of the Earth's atmosphere.

[Erinye]

Originally Posted by Lyenae

If you were a 5 year old juicebox retard when you watched the original Transformers, then you can call it mindless entertainment.

You should go watch some original episodes on TV Links

80's cartoons were fucking epic.

It's fucking robots fighting robots. I'm sorry its not the War and Peace of movies.

I watched the original series for robots fighting robots. I watched the movie to see robots beat the living shit out of robots. It was mindless entertainment.

[Dabamf]

just saw it tonight...it was probably the tightest movie i've ever seen

[woot hermione]

Originally Posted by Dabamf

just saw it tonight...it was probably the tightest movie i've ever seen

you need to see more movies

[Menoz]

So my roommate spent $150 on transformer toys the other day. I...Just...Don't...Get...It...

[Lyenae]

Originally Posted by Erinye

I watched the original series for robots fighting robots..

That's fine, however, that was about 25% of what made the the original show so great.

[Tabris]

Originally Posted by Menoz

So my roommate spent $150 on transformer toys the other day. I...Just...Don't...Get...It...

Vintage or new stuff?

$150 for vintage is like 1 robot.

[Tabris]

Originally Posted by Lyenae

That's fine, however, that was about 25% of what made the the original show so great.

Please don't try to argue that the original series had good writing or stories. They were, for the most part, awful.

Now, the original GI Joe actually had some decent storylines.

[fucker]

Originally Posted by Erinye

Just got back from seeing it. Really enjoyed it overall, but my buddy that went with me kind of echoes the product placement angst I'm reading. All in all, I'm happy with my money spent; it was fun to watch some big robot fights, and it kind of jarred my memory of watching the original series. I wasn't looking for it to be this modernized version of the series - it had transformers kicking decepticons asses and a plot that worked for me. People that are looking for it to rekindle the original series are expecting too much in my opinion; time has changed, and with new people on the staff you're going to get a different direction.

Enjoy it for what it is - mindless entertainment, the same as when we were kids.

the fact the world have moved is the reason why many of us are complaining about this movie

the original cartoon had positive sides (the robot interaction with multiple and different personalities. the good-for-that-time fighting scenes. and the original idea of a living race of sentient mechanic beings) and negative sides (very bad stories, poor animations, introduction of new characters on every episodes to sell more toys)

the good parts were good enought to balance the flaws back in the 80s. but today that would not be acceptable. Instead of taking the good elements the original G1 show had and fix the difects, this movie kept the bad things (product placement and pathetic storyline) and ignored the good ones (no robot interaction/pesonalities)

the only thing they have done right is the technically part of it (special effects). but when it comes to the creative and imaginative part of moviemaking, Transformers shows all the limit of today cinema.....all eyecandy, no substance

just one example:

steven spielberg is the guy who first showed us "good aliens" in ET and Encounters of 3rd kind. Now, stop for a second and think if someone like him had approached the transformers as an alien race of sentient mechanical beings. They origin? their evolution? how the civil war started? etc etc

im the only one who can see the potential he wasted?

if only they had spent more than 2 minutes writing down a script they would have created both a great action movie (cause, yes, after all we want to see the battles) AND a good, imaginative science fiction storyline

and before someone say "its a movie done for kids and families or it would never make the money", i ask you: is it really the stupid irony and bad storyline who bring the ppl to cinema?

cause i can name you tons of movies with no stupid one-lines that made fucktons of moneys (Star Wars, 3rd kind Encounters, Terminator, LotR, abyss, jurassic park) and are still remember as masterpiece of cinema even by kids

[Twobit Whore]

Originally Posted by Tabris

Vintage or new stuff?

$150 for vintage is like 1 robot.

Anyone want to buy some G1 vinatge bots then? Of course I don't have the boxes, but I do have the little stat graphs cut out!

I got a Grimlock sitting here, and umm a few from the movie. Galvatron and Ultra Magnus. About a dozen more assorted ones too!!

[Thorpe]

Originally Posted by Algrinon

One last thing, how the hell does Black Out go from the persian gulf to Nevada in 30 minutes in an H-53?

Well, he isn't an actual H-53.

Originally Posted by Algrinon

And whatever happened to:

Mt Dew machine
XBox

This pissed me off as well. The autobots are trying to destroy the cube so Megatron can't use it but when two machines are converted, they are never shown again. They were probably busy killing people and all it would have taken was five minutes to show Prime stepping on them.

As for the Deloitte and KPMG signs, I picked up on them right away because I work for an accounting firm. That aside, I still thought they were pretty noticeable since they were right in the middle of the scene.

[Zerai]

Originally Posted by Thorpe

This pissed me off as well. The autobots are trying to destroy the cube so Megatron can't use it but when two machines are converted, they are never shown again. They were probably busy killing people and all it would have taken was five minutes to show Prime stepping on them.

As for the Deloitte and KPMG signs, I picked up on them right away because I work for an accounting firm. That aside, I still thought they were pretty noticeable since they were right in the middle of the scene.

The little ones, well, yeah, it was stupid because they made them crazy. If they had given them a little bit of sentience, like..to hide...they could have hidden easily. But when they just attack, you'd think one of the autobots would just stop them pretty easily. Ah well. Minor hole. I was amused enough at the mt dew machine getting up and attacking people that I didn't really care what happened to it afterwards.

As for the second point. Seriously. Come on. Have you ever looked at the skyline of a major city? I can see half a dozen signs in Toronto here. Watch Resident Evil 2, at the beginning, you see a CIBC billboard off to the side (which is even more awesome since, it's supposed to take place in an American city, Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce doesn't sound very american to me~).

What city did they film it? Maybe those are actual signs?

Take for example Spiderman 3, where he jumps in front of that American flag. If that had been the deloitte sign? Sure, that'd be in your face. But honestly? I didn't notice it at all. I was kinda watching the F-22 raptors flying by. You know, the shit happening on screen. The buildings, the structure of the city, if you can see stuff on the roads.

You guys are Americans, it's frankly pitiful how you've not managed to phase out advertising. I don't see it anymore. I see a bus, I don't see the real estate sign on the side. I just..don't acknowledge it. There is much more useful things you can be looking at instead of ads.

[Blank]

Originally Posted by Zerai

You guys are Americans, it's frankly pitiful how you've not managed to phase out advertising. I don't see it anymore. I see a bus, I don't see the real estate sign on the side. I just..don't acknowledge it. There is much more useful things you can be looking at instead of ads.

It's funny what people notice as product placements. Like, I don't really remember seeing anything blatant in transformers (sans xbox/mt dew machine which wasn't like... horrible or anything). The car slow down and shit I just thought looked nifty, I have like 0 knowledge of cars so it didn't even strike me as placement.

But in Die Hard 3, I noticed Gears of War shown twice in it. :P

[Thorpe]

Originally Posted by Blank

But in Die Hard 3, I noticed Gears of War shown twice in it. :P

Gears of War was in Die Hard 3?