The Hobbit

[Wrathcaster]

Originally Posted by Eomer

It's been 10 years since I last read it, but I believe they actually get captured by the Wood Elves and held in the city for awhile. The Wood Elves aren't all that friendly in the Hobbit.

And yeah, Frodo is born something like 20-30 years after the events of the Hobbit. I might be way off on that, but he's most certainly not born at the time. Frodo is something like 30 in LOTR, Bilbo is 111, and I believe Bilbo's adventures happened when he was 50-60.

Fuckers, now I have to go google this shit.

Aha: Timeline of Arda - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

June 22, 2942 - Bilbo Baggins returns to Bag End

September 22, 2968 - Frodo Baggins is born

Your username is Eomer and you have to google The Hobbit? For shame!

[Lost Ranger]

I can't believe how much information there is about the world of Middle-Earth and all the characters that you never see in the main books. The amount of time he put into his world is really amazing. I have only read The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings trilogy but looking at that wikipedia link I can see that I have barely touched the surface of everything there is to know about Middle-Earth heh.

Guy was truely amazing.

[Occido]

Originally Posted by Thorpe

The average life for a hobbit was 100 years. So, I wouldn't say 56 is "young".


Frodo was born in 2968 and Bilbo gave him the ring in 3001. So, during the time-period the trilogy takes place, Frodo was in his 30s.

EDIT: Forgot the war for the ring didn't start till years after Frodo received the ring. The war started in 3018ish, so Frodo was in his 50s.

Heh, didn't know there was a timeline... I coulda sworn Hobbits lived to like... 300 yrs old or some shit.

[Eomer]

Nah, they lived longer than men, but not a lot longer.

I can't believe how much information there is about the world of Middle-Earth and all the characters that you never see in the main books. The amount of time he put into his world is really amazing. I have only read The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings trilogy but looking at that wikipedia link I can see that I have barely touched the surface of everything there is to know about Middle-Earth heh.

Guy was truely amazing.

Read the Silmarillion. It's not a very entertaining or enthralling read, but it's basically a complete history/summary of the mythology of LOTR, and if anything makes the series oh so much better because there's so much more context. And you also realize that the war in LOTR is fucking pissant compared to the shit that went on back in the first two ages. Armies of Balrogs and dragons and shit.

It also reinforces my hatred of Liv Tyler for replacing Glorfindl, who is like so fucking awesome it hurts.

[Loki]

I actually found the Silmarillion and some of the other history books quite interesting...you're definitely right about the war of the ring being a fucking joke though. how about that wolf who bit off whats-his-name's hand with the silmaril in it? oh damn...i may have to reread that book

[Eomer]

It was interesting, but the same way a dry history book can be interesting. There's very little dialogue or narrative to it. I didn't mean to imply that was necessarily a bad thing.

[Castigator]

Originally Posted by Eomer

Nah, they lived longer than men, but not a lot longer.

Well, but (some) men live rather long in Middle Earth. Aragorn with his first-age blood was closing in on 90 when he joined the Fellowship of the Ring IRC.

[Chrisb3]

Originally Posted by Eomer

Read the Silmarillion. It's not a very entertaining or enthralling read, but it's basically a complete history/summary of the mythology of LOTR, and if anything makes the series oh so much better because there's so much more context. And you also realize that the war in LOTR is fucking pissant compared to the shit that went on back in the first two ages. Armies of Balrogs and dragons and shit.

It also reinforces my hatred of Liv Tyler for replacing Glorfindl, who is like so fucking awesome it hurts.

Wow I was going to post how the Gondolin Glorfindel died and the Rivendell Glorfindel was a different character but... I check on wikipedia and it seems the Tolkien just really fucked up.

Anyway I remember enjoying "The story of the Children of Hurin" and "The lay of Luthien". There's some majorly fucked up stuff there.

I don't understand how he managed to write only four books in such a huge period of time, with such a rich world to write in. Do you really have to rewrite eveything and give up half way though that many times? :S

[Thorpe]

Originally Posted by Castigator

Well, but (some) men live rather long in Middle Earth. Aragorn with his first-age blood was closing in on 90 when he joined the Fellowship of the Ring IRC.

True, but IIRC very few men of Númenor descent still exist in Middle Earth by that time. I mean hell, Aragorn lived to be 210.

[Eomer]

Wow I was going to post how the Gondolin Glorfindel died and the Rivendell Glorfindel was a different character but... I check on wikipedia and it seems the Tolkien just really fucked up.

Hmm, I'll have to look into that.

[Wash]

Originally Posted by Chrisb3

Wow I was going to post how the Gondolin Glorfindel died and the Rivendell Glorfindel was a different character but... I check on wikipedia and it seems the Tolkien just really fucked up.

Same. I could have sworn the consensus was that there were two Glorfindels when I read about it a few years ago, but, apparently in notes he wrote when he was really old, he reconciled it by saying they were the same character (although it was originally an accident).

[ChewieTobbacca]

Are they actually serious about making a bridge movie? For what fucking purpose? Made up shit is going to suck for LOTR and is an insult to Tolkien anyways

[Goltana_R-Zek]

Btw, I don't really see a prob with Bilbo being played by the same actor - he looked about right in the 'flashback' when he found the ring, and he hasn't aged much since receiving it, so it wouldn't be hard to imagine he looks very close to how he does in LOTR. Like someone said - he looked like the living dead after giving it away and losing its effect ;p. Really is stupid that New Line tried to fuck so many people over in profits, really hope this doesn't get cancelled. And on that same lamenting vein, why the fuck can't Jackson just fully direct this shit bleh. He has some other project he's pursuing instead or something right?

[Thorpe]

Originally Posted by Goltana_R-Zek

Btw, I don't really see a prob with Bilbo being played by the same actor - he looked about right in the 'flashback' when he found the ring, and he hasn't aged much since receiving it, so it wouldn't be hard to imagine he looks very close to how he does in LOTR. Like someone said - he looked like the living dead after giving it away and losing its effect ;p. Really is stupid that New Line tried to fuck so many people over in profits, really hope this doesn't get cancelled. And on that same lamenting vein, why the fuck can't Jackson just fully direct this shit bleh. He has some other project he's pursuing instead or something right?

Who knows, by the time the legal issues get dealt with, Jackson might be finished with his other projects and might end up having enough time to direct instead of just produce. Hopefully Ian Holm and Ian McKellen will still be available/alive.

[Astrocreep]

according to IMDB the only thing Jackson is working on directing in the last 3+ years is this
The Lovely Bones (2009)
wtf