The Hobbit - Page 18

Thorpe · 03-26-2008, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Azrayne

Protip: Frodo wasn't in The Hobbit.

Since the second movie is suppose to cover the time period between the end of the Hobbit and the start of the trilogy, Frodo would pop up somewhere.

The Ancient · 03-26-2008, 07:53 AM

Frodo definately wasn't in the Hobbit, why would someone say he was?

Chinaman889 · 03-26-2008, 08:11 AM

Chances are, they could get away with an appearance of Frodo at the end of the movie, and Legolas sometime when the setting is taking place in Legolas's Elven kingdom.

I've only read the summary of the Hobbit, but there is a point when the protagonists do travel to Legolas's kingdom, correct?

Eomer · 03-26-2008, 09:36 AM

It's been 10 years since I last read it, but I believe they actually get captured by the Wood Elves and held in the city for awhile. The Wood Elves aren't all that friendly in the Hobbit.

And yeah, Frodo is born something like 20-30 years after the events of the Hobbit. I might be way off on that, but he's most certainly not born at the time. Frodo is something like 30 in LOTR, Bilbo is 111, and I believe Bilbo's adventures happened when he was 50-60.

Fuckers, now I have to go google this shit.

Aha: Timeline of Arda - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

June 22, 2942 - Bilbo Baggins returns to Bag End

September 22, 2968 - Frodo Baggins is born

Castigator · 03-26-2008, 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chinaman889

Chances are, they could get away with an appearance of Frodo at the end of the movie, and Legolas sometime when the setting is taking place in Legolas's Elven kingdom.

I've only read the summary of the Hobbit, but there is a point when the protagonists do travel to Legolas's kingdom, correct?

The Hobbit features the Elvenking a.k.a. Thranduil, who is Legolas father.

So it wouldn't be a stretch to have Legolas show up. For a more subversive version, you could get Orlando Bloom to play Thranduil himself (i.e. his own father from the role he played in LoTR)... just cause elves are creepy that way

Twobit Whore · 03-26-2008, 10:32 AM

By the same token Wood could play a young Bilbo.

Astrocreep · 03-26-2008, 10:46 AM

except Bilbo wasnt young when he went "there and back again" he was 56.

there is just no way you can throw frodo into the hobbit without seriously compromising the integrity of the story.

Occido · 03-26-2008, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Astrocreep

except Bilbo wasnt young when he went "there and back again" he was 56.

there is just no way you can throw frodo into the hobbit without seriously compromising the integrity of the story.

Isn't 56 in Hobbit years..incredibly young? I seem to recall Bilbo in Hobbit being "young" by Hobbit standards... and was still considered young in following books/movies and his age was triple digits in those.

IIRC, Frodo was even in his triple digits in LotR

The Ancient · 03-26-2008, 01:00 PM

Frodo wasn't Bilbo's son, it was his nephew I believe, so Elijah Wood as Bilbo doesn't make sense the way Orlando Bloom as the King of the Forest Elves does.

Regime · 03-26-2008, 01:03 PM

lol man this will suck balls

Thorpe · 03-26-2008, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Occido

Isn't 56 in Hobbit years..incredibly young? I seem to recall Bilbo in Hobbit being "young" by Hobbit standards... and was still considered young in following books/movies and his age was triple digits in those.

The average life for a hobbit was 100 years. So, I wouldn't say 56 is "young".

Quote:

Originally Posted by Occido

IIRC, Frodo was even in his triple digits in LotR

Frodo was born in 2968 and Bilbo gave him the ring in 3001. So, during the time-period the trilogy takes place, Frodo was in his 30s.

EDIT: Forgot the war for the ring didn't start till years after Frodo received the ring. The war started in 3018ish, so Frodo was in his 50s.

Bladefury · 03-26-2008, 01:21 PM

33 is when Hobbit's "come of age." They consider the twenties to be too irresponsible.

And the movie already sort of messed it up as Thorpe said. Frodo receives the ring, and then Gandalf disappears for like 10 years in the book, rather than just a few days in the movie.

Zerai · 03-26-2008, 01:24 PM

Also Bilbo was quite old in the LoTR and his life was unnaturally extended due to the nature of the rings if I remember correctly.

The Ancient · 03-26-2008, 01:40 PM

You do indeed remember correctly.

Asmadai · 03-26-2008, 02:04 PM

Which is why Bilbo went from simple gray hair in Fellowship to giving up the Ring and becoming the unliving dead by the end of RotK.

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Chinaman889 100% Banana Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 927 -22 Internets	Chances are, they could get away with an appearance of Frodo at the end of the movie, and Legolas sometime when the setting is taking place in Legolas's Elven kingdom. I've only read the summary of the Hobbit, but there is a point when the protagonists do travel to Legolas's kingdom, correct? __________________ Gurgeh: Last time I checked FOH channel it was just as empty as a Loveu killboard, was depressing.

03-26-2008, 09:36 AM	#259 (permalink)
Eomer You mean I can change this? Neat! Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,975 +66 Internets	It's been 10 years since I last read it, but I believe they actually get captured by the Wood Elves and held in the city for awhile. The Wood Elves aren't all that friendly in the Hobbit. And yeah, Frodo is born something like 20-30 years after the events of the Hobbit. I might be way off on that, but he's most certainly not born at the time. Frodo is something like 30 in LOTR, Bilbo is 111, and I believe Bilbo's adventures happened when he was 50-60. Fuckers, now I have to go google this shit. Aha: Timeline of Arda - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia June 22, 2942 - Bilbo Baggins returns to Bag End September 22, 2968 - Frodo Baggins is born Last edited by Eomer; 03-26-2008 at 09:38 AM..

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Twobit Whore Insert Quarter Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 11,189 -14 Internets	By the same token Wood could play a young Bilbo. __________________ I got a list of demands written on the palm of my hand. I ball my fists and you gonna know where I stand.

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Bladefury Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 427 +2 Internets	33 is when Hobbit's "come of age." They consider the twenties to be too irresponsible. And the movie already sort of messed it up as Thorpe said. Frodo receives the ring, and then Gandalf disappears for like 10 years in the book, rather than just a few days in the movie. __________________ What?

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Astrocreep Flings doodoo and poopoo Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: NYC Posts: 5,736	except Bilbo wasnt young when he went "there and back again" he was 56. there is just no way you can throw frodo into the hobbit without seriously compromising the integrity of the story.

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Zerai ~ Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: An Igloo Posts: 3,873 +6 Internets	Also Bilbo was quite old in the LoTR and his life was unnaturally extended due to the nature of the rings if I remember correctly.

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Asmadai the Venerable Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Sealab Posts: 2,720	Which is why Bilbo went from simple gray hair in Fellowship to giving up the Ring and becoming the unliving dead by the end of RotK.