The Hobbit

[Castigator]

Originally Posted by Lenardo

ok then a minimum 3hr movie for the hobbit is forthcoming...extended to 4 hrs but i can trim my 2 movie timeline to 1 3hr lets see:

Goal 200 minutes max..(3hrs 20 minutes)

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~2minute monologue setting up the story *snip* to setting off

20 minutes epic Trolls fight & acquisition of Sting/Biter/Beater, including random Legolas appearance to save the day, as well as an appearance of Elrond, allowing the story to skip Rivendell.

20 minutes underground- bilbo gets ring. escapes orcs, trees, eagles

*snip: Beorn*

*snip: mirkwood*

*snip: useless travel*

5 minutes initial smaug meeting
5 minutes smaug fight over laketown
2 minutes dwarf defense
1 minutes human/elf/dwarf gathering
45 minutes battle of five armies

*snip: death king of the undermountain*

10 minutes lots of goodbyes, back home to him writing there and back again-
fin

total length 110 minutes..

fixed that for you

[Blank]

Originally Posted by MorinkhanMT

The book isn't being split into two movies.

The first movie is the book, the second movie will be based on material pulled from multiple sources (some unpublished) and will bridge the gap between the Hobbit and the first book of LotR.

what the heck happens between the Hobbit and the first LotR book besides some of the characters being born -_-

[bouhhan]

looks like jackson and wife will executive produce:

from the nytimes

imho this blows.

[Astrocreep]

To the person who said the 1977 Bass & Rankin Hobbit isnt that bad. i agree but it isnt what i would call great cinema either. the best part is the Smaug animations.

I dunno if i can post links to these sites, but if not please delete this
Watch The Hobbit (1977) Online Free
see for yourself how not bad it is.

If you are a fan of south park you will get a huge kick out of the great adventure song. Lemmiwinks!!!

[Runnen]

Originally Posted by bouhhan

looks like jackson and wife will executive produce:

from the nytimes

imho this blows.

You do realize that Jackson was producer for the three LOTR movies as well as director, right?

[bouhhan]

Originally Posted by Runnen

You do realize that Jackson was producer for the three LOTR movies as well as director, right?

yes, sorry, the article states that he will not direct.

[Cybsled]

Nothing is final til they announce it

[Faille]

I don't have any trouble beleiving that he won't direct. Seems like he's been moving more into the producing side since King Kong, and he's probably able to get more of the projects he wants done that way.

[Castigator]

Originally Posted by Blank

what the heck happens between the Hobbit and the first LotR book besides some of the characters being born -_-

Not necessarily between, but during the Hobbit.

Gandalf disappears twice during the quest of Bilbo and the Dwarfs — once to scout their path, the second time to "attend to other pressing business", the nature of which he refused to discuss. There are also repeated references to "the necromancer" resurging in the north which is commonly believed to refer to Sauron, or possibly the Witch King in his stead. It is also said he befriended Aragorn during this time.

After the Battle of the Five Armies, it is said that the White Council had attacked Dol Guldur and driven the Necromancer from it.. thus explaining Gandalfs repeated absence during "the Hobbit".

So with a bit of reshuffling, you could likely do a second movie working up to the Battle of Dol Guldur, White Council (incl. Aragorn?, possibly Thranduil or even his son Legolas?) against some dark sorcerer/necromancer (who may or may not be Sauron or the Witch King).

Or you could keep the timelines parallel and jump between them, running both climax in the second movie..

Also, a lot of little things happend. Saruman got corrupted, the elven rings where passed on (including Narya going to Gandalf), etc.., etc..

I don't think they'll be short on material to work with.

[Asami]

Originally Posted by Astrocreep

I dunno if i can post links to these sites, but if not please delete this
Watch The Hobbit (1977) Online Free
see for yourself how not bad it is.

Loved that movie so much as a kid. The goblins got all the cool songs!

[MorinkhanMT]

Originally Posted by Blank

what the heck happens between the Hobbit and the first LotR book besides some of the characters being born -_-

That's the $1M question.

Here's a timeline of events bridging the gap between the Hobbit and the LotR. I bolded a few items that look like they might appear in the movie.

2931 - Birth of Aragorn, son of Arathorn II and Gilraen
2933 - Arathorn II is killed while hunting Orcs
July, 2941 - Bilbo Baggins obtains the One Ring; the White Council drives Sauron out of Dol Guldur
2941 - Esgaroth is attacked by the dragon Smaug, who is consequentially killed by Bard the Bowman; Battle of Five Armies
June 22, 2942 - Bilbo Baggins returns to Bag End
2951 - Estel, later known as Aragorn, comes of age and is told about his heritage; the Corsairs of Umbar officially ally themselves with Mordor and destroy great monument commemorating Ar-Pharazôn's victory over Sauron
2953 - Last meeting of the White Council. Fengel, 15th king of Rohan, dies. His son Thengel returns to Rohan to succeed him.
2956 - Aragorn first meets Gandalf the Grey
2957-2980 - Aragorn as Thorongil serves in the armies of King Thengel of Rohan, and Steward Ecthelion II of Gondor
September 22, 2968 - Frodo Baggins is born
2978 - Boromir is born
2980 - Arwen pledges her hand in marriage to Aragorn; Frodo Baggins loses both of his parents in a boating accident; Aragorn, in the service of the Steward of Gondor Ecthelion II leads a taskforce south and kills the Captain of the Haven, ruler of Umbar; Samwise Gamgee born;[14] Théoden, son of Thengel, becomes 17th king of Rohan after the death of his father. Théoden is the last king of the second line.
2982 - Birth of Meriadoc Brandybuck (Merry)
2983 - Birth of Faramir
2989 - Frodo Baggins comes under the guardianship of Bilbo Baggins; a company of Dwarves, led by Balin, try to recolonize Moria
2990 - Birth of Peregrin Took (Pippin)
2991 - Birth of Éomer
2994 - Balin is killed; the dwarf-colony in Moria is destroyed
2995 - Birth of Éowyn
3001 - Bilbo Baggins turns 111, passes the One Ring on to Frodo Baggins, and leaves the Shire. From now on Aragorn and Gandalf intermittently hunt Gollum
3002 - Lalia Clayhanger, the matriarch of the Took clan, dies, aged 119, and possibly pushed by Pearl Took;[15] Bilbo settles in Rivendell
3007 - Gilraen, Aragorn II's mother passes away at the age of 100 years
3014 - Saruman begins using his influence to weaken Théoden, 17th king of Rohan 3017 - Gollum is released from Mordor; Aragorn finally tracks him down in the Dead Marshes, and brings him as a captive to King Thranduil's halls in Mirkwood

Who knows, maybe they'll chronicle Aragorn's early life, since his life touches on all the main realms of Middle-Earth, and would give the opportunity to look in on the lives of other characters and what they're doing pre-LotR. *shrug*

Another possibility is that they'll follow Gollum's travels after losing the ring.

[Asmadai]

Originally Posted by MorinkhanMT

2989 - Frodo Baggins comes under the guardianship of Bilbo Baggins; a company of Dwarves, led by Balin, try to recolonize Moria

This. Moar Balrog plz.

[bouhhan]

sam raimi to direct?

[Thorpe]

Battle of Moria FTW. I don't want Aragorn back in the story if they aren't going to bring Viggo back.

If McKellen is going to come back, I wouldn't care if the entire movie was following around Gandalf.

Originally Posted by bouhhan

sam raimi to direct?

Please no.

EDIT: So Who Will Direct "The Hobbit"? (December 20th 2007)

[bouhhan]

looks like guillermo del toro, and alfonso cuaron are also in the running...