Someone *please* explain this movie to me. - Page 3

Szlia · 08-26-2002, 10:02 AM

I have not seen Freddy Got Fingered, but I have seen some Tom Green shows on MTV. For what I have seen his main comical trick is the failure. Trying to be a baseball announcer or a bingo announcer and, while pretending to do his best, doing it the worst possible way and getting thrown out. The laughs come from the complicity we have with Tom Green: we know he is playing stupid while the people filmed around him think he *is* stupid and get mad at him.

Seeing Tom Green playing stupid without the interaction with real people around him is very different and put us in a rather complex situation as a viewer. I know I find it funny too, but why? The first guess would be that one laugh at Tom Green for being so lame, but we know he is being lame on purpose. How comes his "un-funnyness" is funny? Maybe because it's a regressive destruction of classic comedy?

I understand reading Millie's post that Tom Green never interacts with real people in "Freddy Got Fingered", therefor loosing what is the most obvious and maybe the most efficient part of his comic arsenal. But he can still fail on purpose at any attempt to do a joke, he can still over-act to forbid anyone to actualy beleive what is happening. I am not sure the kind of comedy that uses Tom Green can work on the long duration of a feature film though...

I'll see it one of these days I guess

tarquinn · 08-26-2002, 01:11 PM

"....simply because you know it's not real. It's scripted."

And this is different from EVERY MOVIE EVER MADE IN HISTORY HOW?

Lucidor · 08-26-2002, 03:43 PM

The reason Tom Green's antics seem funny in the context of a reality based show is because we get to see people's real reactions to someone acting like a total whack-job.

In a movie this kind of humor doesn't work because we are seeing "fake" scripted reactions and the material loses its random element.

Millie · 08-26-2002, 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tarquinn
"....simply because you know it's not real. It's scripted."

And this is different from EVERY MOVIE EVER MADE IN HISTORY HOW?

Two bits of advice for you:

1) Decaff. It works wonders.

2) Had you read the first part of my post, you would have noted my explanation of Tom Green's comedy. Tom Green ONLY works when he's out in the real world, confusing real people. He fails when he tries to replicate his shock-comedy routine in a scripted environment. I am not talking about all scripted comedy in general; I am talking, quite specifically, about Tom Green's doing scripted comedy. Got it?

Try understanding the point I'm making next time before attacking it. Thank you, and have a nice day.

Eager Val'Sharess · 08-26-2002, 08:42 PM

Millie, quit acting calm and reasonable. Honestly, who do you think you're fooling?

Millie · 08-26-2002, 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Eager Val'Sharess
Millie, quit acting calm and reasonable. Honestly, who do you think you're fooling?

^_^

ShamusChad · 08-26-2002, 10:31 PM

So this thread can die now?

YAY!!!!

tarquinn · 08-27-2002, 04:29 AM

Wasn't really 'attacking' your point. Guess the all caps was just an attempt of some form of sarcasm. I actually do not / did not like the Tom Green show but I loved this movie.

Tarissa DR · 08-27-2002, 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Millie
Mr. Green fails as a movie actor because can't separate himself from his shock-TV persona. It's his only material.

What works on his TV show works because it's real: you laugh at real people's reactions to his antics.

That same brand of humor doesn't transfer to the big screen, simply because you know it's not real. It's scripted. Even when he's ad-libbing his 'insane' bits, he's still acting out in a prefabricated, fictional world.

Yeah I was going to say this but you beat me too it

Iannis · 08-27-2002, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ShamusChad
So this thread can die now?

YAY!!!!

No.

BLING BLING BUMP BUMP!

penthesilea · 08-27-2002, 01:14 PM

Im sorry but when it comes to freddy i need to speak out!
All we wanted was a little xtra cheese on our cheese sandwhiches.............

This movie is clear brilliance!

VelMonk · 08-27-2002, 04:27 PM

As for retarded movies....

Monkeybone.

Heylel Teomim · 08-27-2002, 05:13 PM

Pootie Tang. Easily a thousand fold worse than anything Tom Green could ever rip from whatever hell his comedy springs from.

God it was so bad. I was worried my tv might just choose to ignite rather than continue displaying that crap.

Heylel

Iannis · 08-28-2002, 06:21 AM

Tom Green strikes me a lot like Chris Elliot. And I like Chris Elliot too! But you gotta learn not to expect morals out of 'Cabin Boy' or old 'Get A Life' episodes. You even gotta learn not to expect a joke most of the time. They are the mimes of comedy, and quite often you end up laughing at yourself because for some reason you're still sitting there watching them (and then other times your find yourself posting 'WTF' to message boards)... Sometimes it's just really interesting to watch a guy with ABSOLUTELY nothing to say say it. More often it's not, I suppose.

And don't go beating down monkeybone! It wasn't really that great granted, but for a movie with Whoopi in it it was amazingly not THAT bad. (That was the one with Brendan Frasier wasn't it? That was something-bone.. i can't really remember. heh. memorable movie)

Tancred · 08-28-2002, 06:57 AM

Zoolander. Dear Holy God there's a couple of hours I'll never get back.

08-26-2002, 10:02 AM	#31 (permalink)
Szlia Conquest Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: 4,590 +6 Internets	I have not seen Freddy Got Fingered, but I have seen some Tom Green shows on MTV. For what I have seen his main comical trick is the failure. Trying to be a baseball announcer or a bingo announcer and, while pretending to do his best, doing it the worst possible way and getting thrown out. The laughs come from the complicity we have with Tom Green: we know he is playing stupid while the people filmed around him think he is stupid and get mad at him. Seeing Tom Green playing stupid without the interaction with real people around him is very different and put us in a rather complex situation as a viewer. I know I find it funny too, but why? The first guess would be that one laugh at Tom Green for being so lame, but we know he is being lame on purpose. How comes his "un-funnyness" is funny? Maybe because it's a regressive destruction of classic comedy? I understand reading Millie's post that Tom Green never interacts with real people in "Freddy Got Fingered", therefor loosing what is the most obvious and maybe the most efficient part of his comic arsenal. But he can still fail on purpose at any attempt to do a joke, he can still over-act to forbid anyone to actualy beleive what is happening. I am not sure the kind of comedy that uses Tom Green can work on the long duration of a feature film though... I'll see it one of these days I guess __________________ -retrosabotage-

08-26-2002, 03:43 PM	#33 (permalink)
Lucidor Para-Noid Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 47 -1 Internets	one more time... The reason Tom Green's antics seem funny in the context of a reality based show is because we get to see people's real reactions to someone acting like a total whack-job. In a movie this kind of humor doesn't work because we are seeing "fake" scripted reactions and the material loses its random element.

08-27-2002, 01:14 PM	#41 (permalink)
penthesilea Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 1 -1 Internets	Daddy would you like some sausages?!! Im sorry but when it comes to freddy i need to speak out! All we wanted was a little xtra cheese on our cheese sandwhiches............. This movie is clear brilliance! __________________

08-27-2002, 05:13 PM	#43 (permalink)
Heylel Teomim Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 328 +0 Internets	bad movies Pootie Tang. Easily a thousand fold worse than anything Tom Green could ever rip from whatever hell his comedy springs from. God it was so bad. I was worried my tv might just choose to ignite rather than continue displaying that crap. Heylel

08-28-2002, 06:57 AM	#45 (permalink)
Tancred Aieee my precious internetz >< Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: UK Posts: 582 -19 Internets	As for retarded movies.... Zoolander. Dear Holy God there's a couple of hours I'll never get back.

08-26-2002, 01:11 PM	#32 (permalink)
tarquinn Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 16 -1 Internets	"....simply because you know it's not real. It's scripted." And this is different from EVERY MOVIE EVER MADE IN HISTORY HOW?

08-26-2002, 08:42 PM	#35 (permalink)
Eager Val'Sharess Long-winded. Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Old Hickory, TN Posts: 541 -1 Internets	Millie, quit acting calm and reasonable. Honestly, who do you think you're fooling?

08-26-2002, 10:31 PM	#37 (permalink)
ShamusChad Limey Bastard~ Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 682 -5 Internets	So this thread can die now? YAY!!!!

08-27-2002, 04:29 AM	#38 (permalink)
tarquinn Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 16 -1 Internets	Wasn't really 'attacking' your point. Guess the all caps was just an attempt of some form of sarcasm. I actually do not / did not like the Tom Green show but I loved this movie.

08-27-2002, 04:27 PM	#42 (permalink)
VelMonk Banned Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 578 +0 Internets	As for retarded movies.... Monkeybone.

08-28-2002, 06:21 AM	#44 (permalink)
Iannis Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Butt Hugging Moose Jockey Posts: 4,968 -1 Internets	Tom Green strikes me a lot like Chris Elliot. And I like Chris Elliot too! But you gotta learn not to expect morals out of 'Cabin Boy' or old 'Get A Life' episodes. You even gotta learn not to expect a joke most of the time. They are the mimes of comedy, and quite often you end up laughing at yourself because for some reason you're still sitting there watching them (and then other times your find yourself posting 'WTF' to message boards)... Sometimes it's just really interesting to watch a guy with ABSOLUTELY nothing to say say it. More often it's not, I suppose. And don't go beating down monkeybone! It wasn't really that great granted, but for a movie with Whoopi in it it was amazingly not THAT bad. (That was the one with Brendan Frasier wasn't it? That was something-bone.. i can't really remember. heh. memorable movie)

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