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Old 04-03-2008, 11:02 PM   #286 (permalink)
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so tony stark gets kidnapped by arab insurgents, they tell him to make some sort of missle, instead he builds an iron battle suit to escape? thats the best plot they could come up with? for fucks sake...

Yeah I guess they should have left it with the original plot and have him captured by the Vietcong?
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Old 04-03-2008, 11:09 PM   #287 (permalink)
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lol thats really the original plot? thats... terrible. i saw the arabs and i figured it was something the studio made up to relate to the current situation in the middle east. wow.
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Old 04-03-2008, 11:26 PM   #288 (permalink)
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lol thats really the original plot? thats... terrible. i saw the arabs and i figured it was something the studio made up to relate to the current situation in the middle east. wow.
And you're some sort of reputable authority on plots? You tried calling 88 Minutes a Crank clone. Stop posting.
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Old 04-04-2008, 12:03 AM   #289 (permalink)
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lol thats really the original plot? thats... terrible. i saw the arabs and i figured it was something the studio made up to relate to the current situation in the middle east. wow.
The original plot was vietcong, not arabs as far as I know. They just modernized the terrorist group.
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Old 04-04-2008, 12:06 AM   #290 (permalink)
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I dont mind the "plot update" going from VCs (Post Nam) to Arabs (Post 911).
The difference is minimal (unlike Hulk for example...)

As long as they keep the "genious drunken bastard" personality intact.
(the Civil War iron man would make a bad movie character, not much charm)
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Old 04-04-2008, 08:16 AM   #291 (permalink)
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And you're some sort of reputable authority on plots? You tried calling 88 Minutes a Crank clone. Stop posting.
you're right... iraqis kidnapping a top military weapons technician and giving him 24 hours to build a missile then leaving him totally unsupervised while he builds himself a combat suit is a terrific plot... i don't know what i was thinking
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Old 04-04-2008, 08:25 AM   #292 (permalink)
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It doesn't matter what you think Keg....that is the plot of Ironman slightly updated to the newest 'enemy'.

Are you suggesting that they make an Ironman movie and ignore the origins?? That would be like making the Hobbit and having the ring simply be an old family heirloom that he pulls out of a desk drawer one day cause its shiny.
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Old 04-04-2008, 09:08 AM   #293 (permalink)
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you're right... iraqis kidnapping a top military weapons technician and giving him 24 hours to build a missile then leaving him totally unsupervised while he builds himself a combat suit is a terrific plot... i don't know what i was thinking

So which part bothers you, the realism? Are you an Iraqi sympathizer? Its a man who builts a metal suit with rockets in the boots... going to need some suspension of disbelief for this one no matter what the plot is like.
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Old 04-04-2008, 09:44 AM   #294 (permalink)
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yeah its pretty ridiculous to nitpick a superpowers movie. all the superhero origins are insane and unbelievable with exception of Batman.
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Old 04-04-2008, 09:49 AM   #295 (permalink)
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you can't change the original plot of a 50 years old character like Ironman. It's like spiderman didnt get his powers from a spider's bite

that said, kegkilla is right....for the 1963 it was a good enought plot, but for today it's pretty much stupid
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you can't change the original plot of a 50 years old character like Ironman. It's like spiderman didnt get his powers from a spider's bite

that said, kegkilla is right....for the 1963 it was a good enought plot, but for today it's pretty much stupid
Not being an Iron Man fanboi, can you explain the difference from the updated version of Iron man's origin to the original? other than its arabs now as the baddie instead of the vc back then of course.
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Old 04-04-2008, 10:12 AM   #297 (permalink)
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I think they are trying to say that it's just plain retarded regardless of which brown people they chose to be bad guys.

If I got someone to build me a rocket, I'd damned well watch him and check he was building an actual rocket. It's not like it's hard to even introduce a tiny flaw that'd turn it unto a bomb, so you'd watch him like a hawk even if it was rocket shaped.

How did they not notice that it was body suit shaped? And also if he could build rocket powered body suits, he wouldn't have been captured in the first place... he'd have a squadron of rocket powered body suit troops guarding americas top scientist.
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first off they gave him a day to build this.

It's a comic book.

Do I really need more to explain this...
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Old 04-04-2008, 10:29 AM   #299 (permalink)
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It's like asking why Bond villians build elaborate death machines with laser-guided sharks instead of just popping a cap in his ass.
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I think they are trying to say that it's just plain retarded regardless of which brown people they chose to be bad guys.

If I got someone to build me a rocket, I'd damned well watch him and check he was building an actual rocket. It's not like it's hard to even introduce a tiny flaw that'd turn it unto a bomb, so you'd watch him like a hawk even if it was rocket shaped.

How did they not notice that it was body suit shaped? And also if he could build rocket powered body suits, he wouldn't have been captured in the first place... he'd have a squadron of rocket powered body suit troops guarding americas top scientist.
^ this

as i said, it passable for a comic made in 1963, but for our times it's pretty lame
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