Iron Man - Page 46

Grimmlokk · 05-14-2008, 04:54 PM

I think they did a great job on the look of Ultimate Thor.

And even the story of him and their use of Loki. Lyrical really needs to get the fuck over it and stop crying about it being retcon. It's a new universe, launched just so they don't have to stick to all the old canon. It's not changing the story because it's a different story. Of course you know all this and your nerdrage blinders just make you ignore it.

Lyrical · 05-14-2008, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Grimmlokk

It's a new universe, launched just so they don't have to stick to all the old canon.

And what's the matter with canon? I don't get the appeal of the immature drivel that is the Ultimates universe. And even more so, when I read about how anyone can pick up Thor's hammer or that the Hulk got his powers from the super soldier serum, it makes me puke in my mouth a little.

Seriously, are you guys that like Ultimates about 12 years old? 'Cause that is who this universal retcon is aimed at.

Lyrical · 05-14-2008, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Arbitrary

They should pick an actor that won't cost a billion dollars and have a ton of demands for later movies.

Somehow I doubt that Pitt would sign on for three Thor movies.

Lenas · 05-14-2008, 07:32 PM

You're right, he'd only have to make two.

Twobit Whore · 05-14-2008, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Lyrical

Seriously, are you guys that like Ultimates about 12 years old? 'Cause that is who this universal retcon is aimed at.

Just curious who you think the original comic books from the past 60+ years were aimed at?

The Ancient · 05-14-2008, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Lyrical

And even more so, when I read about how anyone can pick up Thor's hammer or that the Hulk got his powers from the super soldier serum, it makes me puke in my mouth a little.

Man relax, it's not like they cancelled classic marvel. Hulk still has his precious Gamma radiation.

Arbitrary · 05-14-2008, 08:33 PM

It is not a retroactive continuity. The Marvel Universe is a multiverse and stories are told about those other universes. Boo hoo.

Ultimate FF is good. Really good.

Grimmlokk · 05-14-2008, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Twobit Whore

Just curious who you think the original comic books from the past 60+ years were aimed at?

Obviously 30-40 year olds with disposable income.

Wash · 05-15-2008, 02:38 AM

The comic community is like a giant boa constrictor wrapped around three or four ideas. You've got these characters who are 60 years old, and their stories have been exhausted so completely that they've got to come up with an alternate universe to do anything new.

Marvel and DC keep it going because these are the characters that sell, so it's the buyers that are keeping it going. The companies are just capitalists and if they weren't they'd go out of business, so it's the community that's the annoying thing here.

I'm talking to you, the guy who went out and bought every issue of Spider Man Meets Frankenstein's Bride-- you know, the version where Mary Jane is a transvestite who had three children because of a science experiment that impregnated her with alien DNA and now she needs Peter to bring her 1,200 pounds of fluorescent lightbulbs every day so she can feed on them and it's a big conflict for Peter because stealing is wrong?

If you're coming up with an alternate universe to do something new with a character, maybe it's time to make a new character.

Dom Devore · 05-15-2008, 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Wash

I'm talking to you, the guy who went out and bought every issue of Spider Man Meets Frankenstein's Bride-- you know, the version where Mary Jane is a transvestite who had three children because of a science experiment that impregnated her with alien DNA and now she needs Peter to bring her 1,200 pounds of fluorescent lightbulbs every day so she can feed on them and it's a big conflict for Peter because stealing is wrong?

I would SO buy that comic. Does it come in a limited foil cover edition with a hologram?

chaos · 05-15-2008, 05:00 AM

Most of the canon origin stories are garbage. Simon, Kirby, Lee, yeah they are childhood heroes because they created great worlds, for 12 year olds. Have you ever actually tried explaining the backstory of some of these comics to someone who doesn't know? Seriously, explain the origin of the Fantastic Four to someone and maintain a straight face. It's ridiculous.

Not that I even read the ultimates, I don't have enough time for comics anymore and it makes me sad. Eveything I read about it sounds like a good thing though, getting more people involved with the classic heroes. Except for Captain America dying, that is bullshit. IMO the alternate universe thing should be used to avoid publicity bullshit like that, killing off heroes as an excuse for foil embossed holographic die cut covers.

Castigator · 05-15-2008, 06:01 AM

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My guess is he won't have a choice since he signed on for three movies. The first two will be Iron Man movies, with the third being the Avengers movie.

Which means he'll be flown in for a day or two to film a punch-line or two for the intro-scene and a few in-the-suit-head shots, yielding the rest of the movie to a CGI Iron Man.

Whoever play's Thor on the other hand, will need to put in weeks of physical preparation as well as lots and lots of acting days on the set to shoot stuff running around in a viking costume.

column · 05-15-2008, 08:07 AM

Thor would be a nightmare role IMHO. For at least 2-3 years you would have to sport a physique like those dudes in 300,and thats not the easiest lifestyle.

Rezz · 05-15-2008, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Castigator

Whoever play's Thor on the other hand, will need to put in weeks of physical preparation as well as lots and lots of acting days on the set to shoot stuff running around in a viking costume.

Run around in a viking costume while saying "And Lo, I strike thee Beast!" and the like? I'd do that shit for free.

The Ancient · 05-15-2008, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by column

Thor would be a nightmare role IMHO. For at least 2-3 years you would have to sport a physique like those dudes in 300,and thats not the easiest lifestyle.

You don't know much about actor's methinks. A nightmare role in that sense is one where you have to emaciate yourself like Bale in The Machinist or Emile Hirsch in Into the Wild. Get paid ridiculous dollars to stay in shape and look like a literal god? That's a dream job.

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05-15-2008, 02:38 AM	#684 (permalink)
Wash A bar in Peru Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 199 -15 Internets	The comic community is like a giant boa constrictor wrapped around three or four ideas. You've got these characters who are 60 years old, and their stories have been exhausted so completely that they've got to come up with an alternate universe to do anything new. Marvel and DC keep it going because these are the characters that sell, so it's the buyers that are keeping it going. The companies are just capitalists and if they weren't they'd go out of business, so it's the community that's the annoying thing here. I'm talking to you, the guy who went out and bought every issue of Spider Man Meets Frankenstein's Bride-- you know, the version where Mary Jane is a transvestite who had three children because of a science experiment that impregnated her with alien DNA and now she needs Peter to bring her 1,200 pounds of fluorescent lightbulbs every day so she can feed on them and it's a big conflict for Peter because stealing is wrong? If you're coming up with an alternate universe to do something new with a character, maybe it's time to make a new character.

05-15-2008, 05:00 AM	#686 (permalink)
chaos Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 4,951 +19 Internets	Most of the canon origin stories are garbage. Simon, Kirby, Lee, yeah they are childhood heroes because they created great worlds, for 12 year olds. Have you ever actually tried explaining the backstory of some of these comics to someone who doesn't know? Seriously, explain the origin of the Fantastic Four to someone and maintain a straight face. It's ridiculous. Not that I even read the ultimates, I don't have enough time for comics anymore and it makes me sad. Eveything I read about it sounds like a good thing though, getting more people involved with the classic heroes. Except for Captain America dying, that is bullshit. IMO the alternate universe thing should be used to avoid publicity bullshit like that, killing off heroes as an excuse for foil embossed holographic die cut covers.