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Old 03-20-2008, 01:23 PM   #256 (permalink)
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marvel and DC are too complicated....and lame....and expensive....and stupid....and full of fucking advs every 2 pages....

thats why mainstream comics declining while independent comics and mangas are increasing their market
Where are you getting these sales statitics?
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Old 03-20-2008, 02:43 PM   #257 (permalink)
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The Ultimate universe is a flaming heap of dung.

The only Nick Fury anyone needs to know about:


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Old 03-20-2008, 04:18 PM   #258 (permalink)
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The Ultimate universe is a flaming heap of dung.
QFT. Its nothing but Marvel attempting to retcon the entire Marvel universe so they can appeal to a demographic ten years younger than in the original Marvel universe. I wouldn't even DL this crap and read it for free. It is nowhere near canon.
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Old 03-20-2008, 06:45 PM   #259 (permalink)
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hahaha the second the whole "Fury" debate started I knew Vorph would be up in here with the "MAX" version.
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Old 03-20-2008, 06:48 PM   #260 (permalink)
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hahaha the second the whole "Fury" debate started I knew Vorph would be up in here with the "MAX" version.
He made a stop in Punisher MAX this month.
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Old 03-20-2008, 06:56 PM   #261 (permalink)
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Are the max versions very well written/artwork? Never really looked into it much, I just know its a more mature commic.
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Old 03-21-2008, 12:39 AM   #262 (permalink)
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Alternate universe stuff is so annoying. It's such a copout. I don't even read mainstream comics really, but the idea is so lame it bugs me just by existing.
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Old 03-21-2008, 12:56 AM   #263 (permalink)
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I used to love that kind of stuff, but only to a point.

Age of Apocalypse was some of my favorite times in comics, but was also when I left my first job and stopped reading comics as it concluded.
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Old 03-21-2008, 07:40 AM   #264 (permalink)
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Alternate Universe stuff is fine, Marvel Ultimates are just crap comics.
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Old 03-21-2008, 08:10 AM   #265 (permalink)
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Where are you getting these sales statitics?
i dont have a precise statistic to link, but you just need to compare how a comic book store was composed years ago and how it is now

when i started to buy comics Marvel/DC usually covered most of the space of the entire store. now they have barely 25% dedicated to them while the rest is mangas and indipendents (cosider i live in italy tho. this is our situation, maybe yours is different
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QFT. Its nothing but Marvel attempting to retcon the entire Marvel universe so they can appeal to a demographic ten years younger than in the original Marvel universe. I wouldn't even DL this crap and read it for free. It is nowhere near canon.
Hey hey, the first two volumes of the Ultimates by Millar and Hitch were awesome stuff. Lots of action, plots that weren't too bad, some funny dialogue and awesome moments (the Hulk ripping Abomination's arms off then punching him so hard his skull disconnects from his body? Cheesy but awesome).

Otherwise... Ultimate Spiderman never appealed to me, but I really dislike Bendis. Haven't read enough of the other stuff to pass judgment. Except Ultimate Power. God that was shocking. Fuck you for ruining the Supreme Power universe, Joe Q.
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Hey hey, the first two volumes of the Ultimates by Millar and Hitch were awesome stuff. Lots of action, plots that weren't too bad, some funny dialogue and awesome moments (the Hulk ripping Abomination's arms off then punching him so hard his skull disconnects from his body? Cheesy but awesome).
Die in a fire. That is all. You guys pushing Ultimates ARE MAKING MY NERD RAGE REACH MAXIMUM LEVELS.

That is all.
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Old 03-22-2008, 07:41 AM   #268 (permalink)
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"I never read it but it's horrible because it's not canon!"

You're such a walking cliché=P
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Are the max versions very well written/artwork? Never really looked into it much, I just know its a more mature commic.
oh god yes.

The Max Punisher is without a doubt one of the best comics to be made in a long long time.
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Die in a fire. That is all. You guys pushing Ultimates ARE MAKING MY NERD RAGE REACH MAXIMUM LEVELS.

That is all.
Thank you for this awesome breakdown of what you dislike about two runs that are generally considered to be very good, and with good cause.

In other words: Fuck off.

As an addendum, I do not in any way take responsibility for Ultimates v3.
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