The Dark Knight - Page 3

Moontayle · 08-02-2006, 01:07 AM

I hope they really nail Batman coming to terms with the fact that Joker is a complete Psychopath with no hope of redemption. I've noticed that superhero movies never really shy from killing off the villains so that may not be a problem. I think I'd be extremely disappointed if Batman went on some moral high ground kick when dealing with the Joker. Out of all the villains he ever faced, Joker is probably the one that most deserves death based upon how completely fucked in the head he is.

Angry Amadeus · 08-02-2006, 02:08 AM

That's neat. Cassanova. Great.

I'd like some arugula with that cornholing, cause we're fucked in the game, cuz.

Ok, I jest. Sir William was a much better role. Please tell me the Ben Affleck comments weren't related to any rumors of that cucumber being in this film.

/hoist, Coldain style

Iannis · 08-02-2006, 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by James

Yeah that episode where Harley and Ivy were walking around in men-size shirts and sleeping with each other. Hell yeah.

only a japanese can truly imagine the hotness of what went on between chicks when one has control over vines and shit.

Having Batman kill Joker would break a little rule he has in his head though. "I don't have to save you" is about as close as it gets.
I always liked Joker being badass crazy enough to snap his own neck just to tarnish Batman's image in Dark Knight Returns. I think that was the point where Superman finally got dispatched to deal with him...yeah.

Seo · 08-02-2006, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Moontayle

I hope they really nail Batman coming to terms with the fact that Joker is a complete Psychopath with no hope of redemption. I've noticed that superhero movies never really shy from killing off the villains so that may not be a problem. I think I'd be extremely disappointed if Batman went on some moral high ground kick when dealing with the Joker. Out of all the villains he ever faced, Joker is probably the one that most deserves death based upon how completely fucked in the head he is.

you sir. are retarded.

Moontayle · 08-03-2006, 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Seo

you sir. are retarded.

Thank you for the wonderful revelation. PS> The Joker died in the Burton Batman so DIAF asswipe.

Seo · 08-03-2006, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Moontayle

Thank you for the wonderful revelation. PS> The Joker died in the Burton Batman so DIAF asswipe.

how about the burton batman sucked because of that.

if you go by comics or even the cartoons joker will never be slain by batman ever. its not something batman is willing to do.

James · 08-04-2006, 08:29 AM

Burton's Batman was the best in town for more than a decade, as far as movies were concerned. Stroke of genius casting Nicholson as the Joker, dude already has the smile down fucking pat.

randomguy · 08-04-2006, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by James

Burton's Batman was the best in town for more than a decade, as far as movies were concerned. Stroke of genius casting Nicholson as the Joker, dude already has the smile down fucking pat.

so true. just saw it again last night on encore. I really hope they do a scene where Bruce Wayne and the Joker talk like they did in Tim Burton's version. I think it will give some more closure to show how Batman even as Bruce Wayne almost loses his cool in exposing who he is to the villian due to his hatred for the Joker's persona. I am not asking for the rehash of the Joker being the guy who killed his family, that was dookie from day one. I am asking for the Batman from the Family Ties (i think thats the series) where Joker beats Robin to death with a crowbar and Batman fucking loses it. That type of Batman.

Moontayle · 08-04-2006, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Seo

how about the burton batman sucked because of that.

if you go by comics or even the cartoons joker will never be slain by batman ever. its not something batman is willing to do.

I think we've long established that movies don't follow the same rules as the original medium. Batman never kills anyone in the comics because it's how they keep them going for decades. It means there will always be someone for him to fight. Same thing for the cartoon series.

Movies, however, have no need to keep going in that manner so killing off your villains ain't exactly taboo.

Zinke · 08-04-2006, 06:49 PM

Last I had heard, they did not want to kill off Joker, and saw that as a critical mistake the first movie made. The idea that they talked about, mind you this was over a year ago, was having the Joker get captured in #2, then his trial in #3. He escapes, and in the process also causes Harvey Dent's accident and the emergence of TwoFace as another villain.

Again, that was just a remark David Goyer or Christopher Nolan, don't remember who, made in an interview quite awhile ago. No idea if they still plan to do that or not, but it shows they've got a good understanding of what makes the story tick.

I don't mind them killing off a villain, but the Joker is such a great villain for Batman that he should be available for multiple movies.

Rad · 08-04-2006, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Zinke

Last I had heard, they did not want to kill off Joker, and saw that as a critical mistake the first movie made. The idea that they talked about, mind you this was over a year ago, was having the Joker get captured in #2, then his trial in #3. He escapes, and in the process also causes Harvey Dent's accident and the emergence of TwoFace as another villain.

Again, that was just a remark David Goyer or Christopher Nolan, don't remember who, made in an interview quite awhile ago. No idea if they still plan to do that or not, but it shows they've got a good understanding of what makes the story tick.

I don't mind them killing off a villain, but the Joker is such a great villain for Batman that he should be available for multiple movies.

Exactly.

Awanka · 08-04-2006, 09:04 PM

Of all the superheroes, save for perhaps the X-Men, Batman has the widest and most eclectic mix of interesting villains. I'd like for them to do a movie with Vasch and that puppeteer guy.

The Joker was the best though, because he's just a twisted version of Batman in a way. They're arch-enemies, but they also share a bizarre intimate bond.

Flinch · 08-05-2006, 08:55 AM

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It better not. She's a fucking joke of a character that should have stayed in the Animated series. She has nothing to do with the tragedy of the character and everything with the camp I don't want in this movie.

I dunno. I liked the dynamic they had in the animated series, where it was basically battered wife syndrome on drugs. The whole idea of Quinn being completely and utterly manipulated by the Joker to the point where she worships him would be amazing if done in the proper medium (ie, a movie).

As a slapsticky, lipstick lesbian with Poison Ivy, though? Fuck that shit. I want dark and gritty and psychologically fucked up characters in my Batman movies. I don't want Looney Tunes adventures.

Regime · 08-05-2006, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Flinch

As a slapsticky, lipstick lesbian with Poison Ivy, though? Fuck that shit. I want dark and gritty and psychologically fucked up characters in my Batman movies. I don't want Looney Tunes adventures.

Hear Hear

Runnen · 08-06-2006, 04:59 AM

Dilemna, dilmena... to see a dark gritty Joker with a psycho, beat-up Harley Quinn or to see boxers-and-t-shirt-wearing Harley Quinn and Poison Ivy as bank-robbing lesbians?.. Why can't life be simpler?

08-02-2006, 01:07 AM	#31 (permalink)
Moontayle Romo is a manwhore Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,095	I hope they really nail Batman coming to terms with the fact that Joker is a complete Psychopath with no hope of redemption. I've noticed that superhero movies never really shy from killing off the villains so that may not be a problem. I think I'd be extremely disappointed if Batman went on some moral high ground kick when dealing with the Joker. Out of all the villains he ever faced, Joker is probably the one that most deserves death based upon how completely fucked in the head he is. __________________

08-02-2006, 02:08 AM	#32 (permalink)
Angry Amadeus Brained. Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,751	That's neat. Cassanova. Great. I'd like some arugula with that cornholing, cause we're fucked in the game, cuz. Ok, I jest. Sir William was a much better role. Please tell me the Ben Affleck comments weren't related to any rumors of that cucumber being in this film. /hoist, Coldain style __________________ Angry Amadeus Burn in hell, Salieri

08-06-2006, 04:59 AM	#45 (permalink)
Runnen I eat lore for breakfast. Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 2,232	Dilemna, dilmena... to see a dark gritty Joker with a psycho, beat-up Harley Quinn or to see boxers-and-t-shirt-wearing Harley Quinn and Poison Ivy as bank-robbing lesbians?.. Why can't life be simpler? __________________ As the speed of light is superior to that of sound, most people look bright until they start talking.

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08-04-2006, 06:49 PM	#40 (permalink)
Zinke I think I'm drunk enough to drive you home. Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,458 +0 Internets	Last I had heard, they did not want to kill off Joker, and saw that as a critical mistake the first movie made. The idea that they talked about, mind you this was over a year ago, was having the Joker get captured in #2, then his trial in #3. He escapes, and in the process also causes Harvey Dent's accident and the emergence of TwoFace as another villain. Again, that was just a remark David Goyer or Christopher Nolan, don't remember who, made in an interview quite awhile ago. No idea if they still plan to do that or not, but it shows they've got a good understanding of what makes the story tick. I don't mind them killing off a villain, but the Joker is such a great villain for Batman that he should be available for multiple movies.

08-04-2006, 09:04 PM	#42 (permalink)
Awanka Seething with dark power and -internets Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,823 -67 Internets	Of all the superheroes, save for perhaps the X-Men, Batman has the widest and most eclectic mix of interesting villains. I'd like for them to do a movie with Vasch and that puppeteer guy. The Joker was the best though, because he's just a twisted version of Batman in a way. They're arch-enemies, but they also share a bizarre intimate bond.