movie experience

[ShamusChad]

It's not as simple as that. Once again.

[Shada]

100% with Voron and Shamus here. You want to teach your children to solve problems with violence, or be frightened of getting hit by their parents, that are supposed to love them unconditionally, when they do something wrong, then go for it. I have a 3-week-old and a 3-year-old, and I will never discipline them in any way physically. Teaching your children good behavior does not require spanking or beating, it only requires knowing how to be a good parent. Personally, I think there should be mandatory licensing and psychology courses to let people have children. No matter how sick that is, most people have terrible parenting skills, and their children don't deserve it.

Edit: Oops, I think I'm helping this thread get locked heh.

[olegai]

Alrrriiighhttty then for those 'go to your room for 5 minutes to chill' parents out there: the child you just asked to go to his room is saying/thinking nonstop 'FUCKYOUCOCKSUCKER' (extreme but you get the point) about Y O U. Most of the time saying outloud that he 'hates you', for such behavior to stop he needs to be physically punished, verbal crap wont do a god dam thing. America is growing up on the 'you touch your kid and you go to jail' parenting and this point of time and we WILL witness what horrible results will that give us in 10-20 years from now (100% sure that level of stupidity will rize 10fold not to mention any other side effects of uncontrolled growing up). Reason for physical education? Simple, when we are kids we are NOT very far from animals and we do not understand high morals and pretty much do not even have a set of morals to judge our own actions. I can understand soem people belief in 'teaching everything to your kid using language only' but just do one thing for me: using language teach young dog NOT to pee on your carpet and not to do things that dogs do if they're not properly taught. When you will be able to accomplish that I'll believe in the power of verbal persuasion.


-sorry for being completely offtopic

Also: if you find someone in the movie theatre being too lound and disturbing the peace of everyone, get up, walk to any manager in the movie theatre, and I can assure you the person who's causing trouble will be calmed down.

[Funkmasterr Flex]

Look what I started. Well, this is one of those things, like religion that is a argument where common ground will never be found between certain people. I understand both sides of the situation. But point being somehow, I could care less how, teach your kids some damned manners so they don't do shit like those little pricks at signs.

[Tancred]

There are certain people in the world that will smack the shit out of you if you piss them off enough.
It's a parent's duty to prepare their offspring for this facet of human interaction.
Yeah, there's a lot of theory about physical punishment and communicating with your children.
Then there's the real world :P

[Eomer]

I dunno about licenses for having kids. Personally I think it may be a good idea, but in practice it is completely 100% impossible to ever enforce. What do you do when someone w/o a license has a kid? Take it away? Fine them?

I think that having parenting courses supplied at no charge would be an excellent way to go, although I doubt making them mandatory would do much, because again how do you enforce it.

Short of it is, there are a lot of shitty parents out there. But that doesn't mean their kids will neccessarily turn out shitty, it's a 50/50 split. Some people are predisposed to being deviants, some are going to turn out to be great people no matter what.

My parents basically had a totally hands off approach to my growing up, after I was about 10. All I ever had to do was tell them where I was headed, when I would be back, and they said okay great, call if you get in trouble. I never once got into any serious trouble, just mischeif (although doing "freeway runs" probably was not the most intelligent thing to be doing).

A friend had parents who watched his every move and made him study three hours a night, yadda yadda. He now lives a 20 hour drive away, doesn't talk to his parents, barely passed high school, and works as a line chef in various restaurants for slightly more than minimum wage. But guess what? His mom read every single good parenting book she could get her hands on, and all her techniques and methods served to fuck him up worse than if they just let him be.

Half this new age parenting bullshit is total garbage, if you ask me.

[Tancred]

Another off-topic point: Children (all children) are mentally incapable of seeing things from another's point of view until the age of 8-9yrs. The process is called "decentralisation" or somesuch.