Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead man's chest - Page 5

Jessie · 07-10-2006, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Awanka

Saw it. Liked it. Could have cut out a half hour, especially during the overlong island/wheel sequence, but all in all, it was same stuff as the first, a hodge-podge of pirate lore, action, and humor, with a little too much on the action.

Very much in agreeance.

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Originally Posted by Flinch

PotC2, a Disney version of the Empire Strikes Back?

Yay / nay?

Haven't seen the movie yet, but that's the vibe I'm getting from people who have seen it.

Sorta. It's a bit more like Return of the Jedi with Empire Strikes Back's ending.

Thorpe · 07-10-2006, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Cwaylyn

anyone else but me pissed that it was an open ended movie? i mean, they could have at least finished the davey jones story line before ending it the way they did.

I hated the ending, and I knew going in they had filmed most of the third movie already. Even with that in mind, I couldn't stand how the movie ended.

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Originally Posted by Zinke

Also, I'm not sure how I feel about the scene at the end with Elizabeth and Sparrow. Having Will see their kiss will just make for a stupid plot device in the 3rd movie. That could just be personal preference, as I hate when movie characters have this huge misunderstanding and then no one realizes 'OH! You saw me kissing him, I get it.. no no no.. see this is what happened' Instead, Elizabeth will get pissed at Will for not trusting her or some other bullshit.

I have a bad feeling that this is going to play out in the last film, and if it does, God will it suck.

Grooverider · 07-10-2006, 01:02 PM

Loved the original. Found the sequel tedious and Depp's character seemed incredibly forced in comparison with the natural and slickness presented in the original.

I'm actually very surprised at just how much people enjoyed this flick. I almost walked out, however i'm absolutely not a fan of, what i believe to be, poorly construed slapstick.

Iannis · 07-10-2006, 04:23 PM

My friends saw it and agree that the first 30 or 40 minutes was funny but then it got awful and had no ending. They told me to not see it until Pirates 3 is about to come to theaters, so that's what i'll do.

Ronne · 07-10-2006, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DMyst

Someone answer these questions please **SPOILER**:

1- Did Will realise why she kissed Sparrow? It seemed like he suddenly realised that she kissed him just to trick him.

2- Didn't the captain of the black pearl get shot in the first movie? Straight in the heart? How on earth is he alive. I just found that ridiculous.

It could go either way with Will. It could go the predictable and shitty WB version where Will whines because she kissed him, and she gets pissed because he doesn't trust her.

OR...he could realize what she did, and be unable to love her anymore because of it.

I'm hoping for the latter, because the bitch gotta die. Shows Sparrow to be a good guy, even for a few minutes.

Malakriss · 07-10-2006, 07:07 PM

Originally Posted by DMyst
Someone answer these questions please **SPOILER**:
2- Didn't the captain of the black pearl get shot in the first movie? Straight in the heart? How on earth is he alive. I just found that ridiculous.

Just checked the DVD of the first movie...
Elizabeth is running, the captain pulls out his pistol and points it at her, she stops dead, and a gun shot goes off. Cut to Jack pointing his fired gun, Captain monologues about his wasted shot, then Will gives his snappy "He didn't waste it". Gold+Blood dropped and curse lifted, then the captain opens his shirt and sees blood staining his shirt in the heart area, says "I feel... cold", then falls down and drops his apple. After that, there's the Elizabeth/Will chat scene, with Jack Sparrow rumaging through loot. Then they make a quick scroll-by of the pile with the chest of gold as Jack Sparrow is leaving without the captain's body visible. I would figure max 3 minutes that they lingered in the cave, and the captain's literally like 10 feet from the chest (2:00:53)

I would say the monkey being undead still is the biggest hint of the gold cheating death route. Then there is the fact the captain was actually undead when shot, and had many seconds to start healing before the curse was lifted. He's literally a crawls distance away from the chest and salvation.

Thorpe · 07-10-2006, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Malakriss

Originally Posted by DMyst
Someone answer these questions please **SPOILER**:
2- Didn't the captain of the black pearl get shot in the first movie? Straight in the heart? How on earth is he alive. I just found that ridiculous.

Just checked the DVD of the first movie...
Elizabeth is running, the captain pulls out his pistol and points it at her, she stops dead, and a gun shot goes off. Cut to Jack pointing his fired gun, Captain monologues about his wasted shot, then Will gives his snappy "He didn't waste it". Gold+Blood dropped and curse lifted, then the captain opens his shirt and sees blood staining his shirt in the heart area, says "I feel... cold", then falls down and drops his apple. After that, there's the Elizabeth/Will chat scene, with Jack Sparrow rumaging through loot. Then they make a quick scroll-by of the pile with the chest of gold as Jack Sparrow is leaving without the captain's body visible. I would figure max 3 minutes that they lingered in the cave, and the captain's literally like 10 feet from the chest (2:00:53)

I would say the monkey being undead still is the biggest hint of the gold cheating death route. Then there is the fact the captain was actually undead when shot, and had many seconds to start healing before the curse was lifted. He's literally a crawls distance away from the chest and salvation.

I hope that in the third movie they use this explanation. It makes the most sense with what happened in the first movie and what we saw in the second.

DMyst · 07-10-2006, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Malakriss

Originally Posted by DMyst
Someone answer these questions please **SPOILER**:
2- Didn't the captain of the black pearl get shot in the first movie? Straight in the heart? How on earth is he alive. I just found that ridiculous.

Just checked the DVD of the first movie...
Elizabeth is running, the captain pulls out his pistol and points it at her, she stops dead, and a gun shot goes off. Cut to Jack pointing his fired gun, Captain monologues about his wasted shot, then Will gives his snappy "He didn't waste it". Gold+Blood dropped and curse lifted, then the captain opens his shirt and sees blood staining his shirt in the heart area, says "I feel... cold", then falls down and drops his apple. After that, there's the Elizabeth/Will chat scene, with Jack Sparrow rumaging through loot. Then they make a quick scroll-by of the pile with the chest of gold as Jack Sparrow is leaving without the captain's body visible. I would figure max 3 minutes that they lingered in the cave, and the captain's literally like 10 feet from the chest (2:00:53)

I would say the monkey being undead still is the biggest hint of the gold cheating death route. Then there is the fact the captain was actually undead when shot, and had many seconds to start healing before the curse was lifted. He's literally a crawls distance away from the chest and salvation.

Thank you for that explanation. I still find it shitty that they leave the audience with such a scenario to ponder over.

GrobbeeTrull · 07-10-2006, 10:52 PM

When they first trade the undead monkey to the crazy jamaican lady, you see the monkey isn't freaking out at all - he's sitting next to a pair of boots. You know who's boots!

Akileese · 07-10-2006, 11:57 PM

I liked it but hated the ending so basically, I agree with everyone else. I am still intrigued by the third one though.

FohMD · 07-11-2006, 10:32 AM

***POSSIBLE SPOILERS***

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Originally Posted by GrobbeeTrull

When they first trade the undead monkey to the crazy jamaican lady, you see the monkey isn't freaking out at all - he's sitting next to a pair of boots. You know who's boots!

I noticed something else too: Jack steals one of the jamaican lady's rings and throughout the rest movie whenever they show Jack's hand (up to and including the Kraken incident), he's wearing it. Could be nothing...

Lin · 07-11-2006, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Thorpe

I have a bad feeling that this is going to play out in the last film, and if it does, God will it suck.

Well her reasoning was that the kraken was after Jack, not the ship, but Jack had earlier left the ship and the Kraken hadn't gone after him, it had gone after the ship. So the whole situation is pretty flawed to begin with.

... · 07-11-2006, 12:02 PM

The kraken is a stupid animal. it does whatever davy tells it to do, and most likely doesn't have 'jack sense'. in that instance, davy said to smash the black pearl and the kraken was on that. I have a hunch that davy can tell when jack dies inately because of their old bargain. once the pearl was smashed, if jack hadn't of died I'd assume davy would know and spend more time chasing him and killing alot of inocent people in the process. that's why she sent him down with the ship.

Asmadai · 07-11-2006, 01:15 PM

Spoiler: I'm not sure if I was the only one to notice this, but remember how they said Davy Jones became the way he did because of a woman he loved? Well, during the scene in the swamp lady's house, when it show's Sparrow picking up that ring, if you look beside the ring, you notice that the swamp lady has the EXACT same pendant box thing Davy Jones had when he was passed out at his organ (the musical box that played when Will was trying to steal the key). I'm wondering if we are to assume that Davy's lady was the swamp lady, in which Jack Sparrow boned, in which could explain some of the animosity between both Sparrow and Jones. God I hope this point wasn't actually confirmed in the movie and I just didn't hear it. =P

Madrugan · 07-11-2006, 01:56 PM

I dunno, I really liked the ending cliffhanger. Jack's shot with the Kraken was the money shot for the entire film for me.

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Iannis Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 4,968 +0 Internets	My friends saw it and agree that the first 30 or 40 minutes was funny but then it got awful and had no ending. They told me to not see it until Pirates 3 is about to come to theaters, so that's what i'll do. Last edited by Iannis : 07-10-2006 at 04:29 PM.

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07-10-2006, 01:02 PM	#63 (permalink)
Grooverider hildog Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 888 +0 Internets	Loved the original. Found the sequel tedious and Depp's character seemed incredibly forced in comparison with the natural and slickness presented in the original. I'm actually very surprised at just how much people enjoyed this flick. I almost walked out, however i'm absolutely not a fan of, what i believe to be, poorly construed slapstick.

07-10-2006, 10:52 PM	#69 (permalink)
GrobbeeTrull Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,685 +0 Internets	When they first trade the undead monkey to the crazy jamaican lady, you see the monkey isn't freaking out at all - he's sitting next to a pair of boots. You know who's boots!

07-11-2006, 12:02 PM	#73 (permalink)
... Avatar won't work. Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,815 -2 Internets	The kraken is a stupid animal. it does whatever davy tells it to do, and most likely doesn't have 'jack sense'. in that instance, davy said to smash the black pearl and the kraken was on that. I have a hunch that davy can tell when jack dies inately because of their old bargain. once the pearl was smashed, if jack hadn't of died I'd assume davy would know and spend more time chasing him and killing alot of inocent people in the process. that's why she sent him down with the ship.

07-11-2006, 01:15 PM	#74 (permalink)
Asmadai the Venerable Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 2,504	Spoiler: I'm not sure if I was the only one to notice this, but remember how they said Davy Jones became the way he did because of a woman he loved? Well, during the scene in the swamp lady's house, when it show's Sparrow picking up that ring, if you look beside the ring, you notice that the swamp lady has the EXACT same pendant box thing Davy Jones had when he was passed out at his organ (the musical box that played when Will was trying to steal the key). I'm wondering if we are to assume that Davy's lady was the swamp lady, in which Jack Sparrow boned, in which could explain some of the animosity between both Sparrow and Jones. God I hope this point wasn't actually confirmed in the movie and I just didn't hear it. =P

07-11-2006, 01:56 PM	#75 (permalink)
Madrugan Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 358 +5 Internets	I dunno, I really liked the ending cliffhanger. Jack's shot with the Kraken was the money shot for the entire film for me.