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Old 05-25-2006, 10:10 AM   #16 (permalink)
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I agree that there are worse comic-movies than Spawn, but none of them involved comics I actually collected. Fantastic Four was shit, sure, but so is the comic... so it didn't bother me much. Same with Catwoman. I'd put Batman Forever/Batman and Robin on the same level as Spawn, and I'd also throw League of Extraordinary Gentlemen on that pile too. Constantine narrowly misses the pile because the movie actually wasn't bad, it just had jack shit to do with the Hellblazer comic.

I liked the Hulk too, as a movie, but that's another character whose comic I couldn't case less about.
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Old 05-25-2006, 10:19 AM   #17 (permalink)
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i personally loved the hulk

but maybe because i started to read the comic during the Mr. Fixit / Phanteon period, instead than the older "hulk smash military" most knows

Peter David, showing the dramatic psycological trauma banner had when he was a child, has given to the banner/hulk conflict much more deep

the 3 splitted personalities (banner, grey hulk, green hulk) were the consequences of his father abuses, not just another "random radiation made another super being"

yes, everyone hated it because they went to the cinema for 2 hours of non stop destruction, and from that side the movie didnt delivered much fun

but if you went there knowing how banner's past is the real genesis of hulk (the gamma bomb was just a way to release it) the movie was very good

obviously it wasnt perfect. Personally what i dont like more was his father. They made him much "less-evil" than the comic counterpart.....and i totally hated the last part. Ok, they made the father a superhuman being aswell, why the hell Ang Lee needed to make those last over-the-top 20 minutes?

wasnt easier keep the father for Hulk2 ending the movie after the desert battle?

from what i read, hulk2 will be what most ppl wanted, a 2 hours non stop destruction

ill enjoy it, but personally i consider the easier and stupid way to use a complex character like Hulk

its like you made a movie about Mr Hyde going around killing innocent girls, and ignoring his conflict with Dr Jekil
definitely the reason i enjoyed the first one. i am upset if they stagger that much from story/plot for the 2nd one. i would love to see a Grey Hulk/Logan spinoff movie though. that comic series was great.
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Old 05-25-2006, 10:41 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Personally, I like how the Hulks done in the Ultimates, but that's just me. Dear god, if they'd just make an adaptaion of the Ultimates, I could die a happy man.
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Old 05-26-2006, 10:39 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Played a very nice trailer at X3 tonight, kinda exciting about Ghost Rider.
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Old 05-27-2006, 02:48 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Cannot agree at all that Constantine even came close to sucking.
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Old 05-27-2006, 06:29 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Cannot agree at all that Constantine even came close to sucking.
It was terrible.
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Old 05-27-2006, 09:52 AM   #22 (permalink)
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It was terrible.
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Old 05-27-2006, 10:40 AM   #23 (permalink)
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If you aren't predisposed to hating anything with Keanu in it, Constantine was a pretty good movie. Peter Stormare was especially good as Satan at the end.

However, it had almost nothing to do with the Hellblazer comic, beyond the name of the characters, the fact that Constantine had cancer, and a couple other plot points grabbed from various issues of the comic. To be fair, Hellblazer is far too complex a comic to make a movie out of it that actually does the source material justice.

Despite all that I was still looking forward to a second movie, but it got axed last summer.
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Old 05-27-2006, 04:06 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Just resign yourself to thinking that all comic movies are going to be shit. It is my opinion that is you walk in with low expectations you can't be let down.

The track record for most comic movies is either they totally fuck up the story, characters, origin, powers and whatever else can be totally dumbed down for the idiot public. Ghost Rider is one of my all time favorties from even before they revamped him in the early 90's. I am glad they are using the Mark Texeira version of him or something close to it. Anyways it's probably going to suck since they are going to totally fuck up the story line etc.

So do like Uncle Pollo kids, keep your expectations low, turn off your brain and try not to put a lot of thought in to the movie when you sit down.

Edit: Except for Sin City, that was done spot on.
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Old 05-28-2006, 12:22 AM   #25 (permalink)
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http://www.apple.com/trailers/sony_pictures/ghostrider/
looks kind of silly
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Old 05-28-2006, 08:34 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Looks really cheesy, but somehow I wanna see it.
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Old 05-29-2006, 07:39 AM   #27 (permalink)
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The slo-mo scene jumping the helicopters was pretty cool. Some of the CGI scenes in the trailer look pretty cheese, though

Here's hoping that Nicholas Cage can pull this one off. He's a great actor.
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