Flight 93

[xeg_IS]

Originally Posted by Taehoon

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What a great unbiased source you have there.

Seriously, make another thread in General or something if you want to talk about shitty conspiracy theories or better yet, go downtown and find some crank addicts. I'm sure they would love to tell you about how George Bush, "the stupid president", staged 9/11 from his Barbie playhouse.

[Taehoon]

Originally Posted by xeg_IS

What a great unbiased source you have there.

Seriously, make another thread in General or something if you want to talk about shitty conspiracy theories or better yet, go downtown and find some crank addicts. I'm sure they would love to tell you about how George Bush, "the stupid president", staged 9/11 from his Barbie playhouse.

What the fuck is the conspiracy about cell phones not working at 30,000 feet? You don't get any service, and you're travelling at near the distance of a single tower's coverage every 10 seconds.

Oh, and, because Irony > you.

[Zimphultron]

It bugged me enough, and I ended up watching the movie.

The dialogue was pretty cheesey and boring throughout the movie. I nearly fell asleep in the first thirty or forty minutes.. their attempt at suspence didn't happen to catch me. Though, it did eventually pickup when the hijackers actually started making a move within the plane. There weren't any ideas within the movie that made you think differently about the event. You can easily use your imagination.. predictable. That being said... I don't think the movies excuse for "helping people move on" is credible. I'm hoping World Trade Center will be a little more innovative on the situation.

[Samus Aran]

Hey Cathan, I can appreciate your response. You have your opinion but can't really give great reasons why a film like this shouldn't be made, but you admit that. I can respect that.

[Antarius]

Originally Posted by Taehoon

What the fuck is the conspiracy about cell phones not working at 30,000 feet? You don't get any service, and you're travelling at near the distance of a single tower's coverage every 10 seconds.

Oh, and, because Irony > you.

While I could impress you with technical knowledge I have from my job, or link a bunch of wikipedia/verizon/singular/etc. articles to you... Something tells me that you wouldn't believe me in any case.

But regardless, I feel it is my sworn duty to inform you that you are spouting wrong information and trying to pass it off as the truth, you should stop before you embarass yourself further.


P.S. I saw United 93 last night, it was pretty entertaining and quite the tear jerker.

[Bizanich]

Saw it about an hour ago..wish I could say it was amazing, movie of the year, etc etc.

But it was just "meh". I was more involved with the military and civilian air controllers then what was going on on the plane, and when the terrorists made their move and the passengers made their move, it was decent..but not omgzor wow.

That being said, the thing that got me most was the absolute dead silence it brought on the full theater..only a few sniffles.

No one moved at the end, even through the end postscript. It wasn't until the "Directed by.." came up that anyone dared move.

[DiscW]

Originally Posted by Cathan

One difference here: The Rwanda thing happened in Rwanda and I really didn't know shit about it until I saw the movie, not that that means I saw anything like what really happened but at least I learned something about the events there.

Now for the WTC movie and Flight 93 I saw it on tv here so I don't need a lesson on what went on. I can't say I'm for movies being made on those events. Sure it might do some good to remind people why we should still be hunting terrorists. I won't see any of those movies though. It just doesn't feel right to me even though I can't specifically point out a reason other than I don't think anyone should profit from a movie about this country's tragedies when we are the ones who experienced them. It's not a perfect perspective but meh....

So its ok to profit from a tragedy as long as it didn't happen to a large amount of people on american soil?

The entire entertainment industry has consistently profited off of horrible things that have happend to people, this is nothing new. People seem to just be getting pissy because its finally about something that affected them, rather then someone they don't know.

[Zimphultron]

Originally Posted by Bizanich

Saw it about an hour ago..wish I could say it was amazing, movie of the year, etc etc.

But it was just "meh". I was more involved with the military and civilian air controllers then what was going on on the plane, and when the terrorists made their move and the passengers made their move, it was decent..but not omgzor wow.

That being said, the thing that got me most was the absolute dead silence it brought on the full theater..only a few sniffles.

No one moved at the end, even through the end postscript. It wasn't until the "Directed by.." came up that anyone dared move.

Same thing happened here, but that's most likely because it did end with a.... bang.

[True Love]

Some of you people are seriously disconnected from reality. By all means, don't give money to people who shamelessly exploit tragedy by making an extremely honest, authentic memorial to one of the most iconic and moving stories about ordinary people in your lifetime. Write an angry letter letter to anyone who ever made a movie about the Holocaust while you're at it. Give your money to some Scientology whackjob so you can get your fill of fictional heroism and derivative Hollywood action or something.

Y'all crack me up.

[fucker]

One difference here: The Rwanda thing happened in Rwanda and I really didn't know shit about it until I saw the movie, not that that means I saw anything like what really happened but at least I learned something about the events there.

sorry, no offence man, but i really hope you are joking....or at least you are 1 out of 1 million americans

if not, i wonder if they teach you something about this strange thing called "the rest of world" in american schools

Rwanda massacre was one of the most atrocious event in 20th century, and even worse was how about everyone in the "west" world just didnt give a shit about it (just like we ignore 90% of the shit going on in africa)

how you dont know about it?

[Faltigoth]

Something tells me they don't teach you about Rwanda in grade school or maybe not even high school, even though it was a massacre that approached or maybe even exceeded Holocaust levels of evil. But, like you said, it happened in Africa so of course, our media saturation of it is nonexistent. It wasn't like there were embedded reporters running with the Tutsi.

People that are graduating high school now were all of 7 or 8 years old when that shit last got serious press coverage, and probably not giving too much a shit about world events at that point. I mean, I can still clearly remember the Challenger from when I was in grade school, but that is about it. A little bit about Ollie North's trial. Nelson Mandela getting freed. Other shit is all a blur.

But yeah, it IS criminal that there are people with no clue about what happened and is still happening over there, and it IS criminal that we have done nothing about it. That's a whole other discussion though.

[fucker]

Originally Posted by Faltigoth

Something tells me they don't teach you about Rwanda in grade school or maybe not even high school, even though it was a massacre that approached or maybe even exceeded Holocaust levels of evil. But, like you said, it happened in Africa so of course, our media saturation of it is nonexistent. It wasn't like there were embedded reporters running with the Tutsi.

People that are graduating high school now were all of 7 or 8 years old when that shit last got serious press coverage, and probably not giving too much a shit about world events at that point. I mean, I can still clearly remember the Challenger from when I was in grade school, but that is about it. A little bit about Ollie North's trial. Nelson Mandela getting freed. Other shit is all a blur.

But yeah, it IS criminal that there are people with no clue about what happened and is still happening over there, and it IS criminal that we have done nothing about it. That's a whole other discussion though.

dunno, maybe i was lucky to have a good history teacher who made us study the newest texts but when we studied 20th century, the Rwanda massacre was an important event in the african chapter, even if it was a recent event

anyway, as you said, its odd that someone doesnt know about these events (again, no offence Cathan )

[Bralkan]

Originally Posted by DiscW

So its ok to profit from a tragedy as long as it didn't happen to a large amount of people on american soil?

The entire entertainment industry has consistently profited off of horrible things that have happend to people, this is nothing new. People seem to just be getting pissy because its finally about something that affected them, rather then someone they don't know.

Its not the fact they profit. It’s the intentions. Are you making the movie only to make money? In these cases I think the answer is a resounding yes. In Hotel Rwanda or other documentaries, I feel the point was to tell a story and not so much make money. It is just my perception though, and therefore is debatable. Frankly, I don't really care to support it - I'd have to give proof that the men who made this movie (or allowed it to happen) cared only to make money. Something hard to do. You can make Colbert's "gut" joke about me here. I'm not out picketing this movie or anything. Go see it if you want.

[Kan]

Excellent movie really nothing I can complain about with it. I really like the way they filmed it giving you the entire story of everything that was going on without really going into detail of the other planes aside from them not responding to the air traffic controllers and the aftermath. The main terrorist from United 93 itself I thought was a great actor he didn't have many lines at all but really did a excellent job of portraying the fact that this is what they believe in. They didn't take any cheap shots at the Arab nations/beliefs at all (though im sure the temptation was there) which was nice because then it would have ruined the movie atleast for me it would have because before 9/11 Arabs weren't looked upon for the most part as someone to be cautious of etc so to have it be like that in the movie would have been very inaccurate.

overall a solid 8.5/10 - 9/10