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Old 08-29-2005, 12:48 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I would give this movie the highest marks because it's something fresh and creative. At a time when every movie that comes out is the same tired crap, and Hollywood is so bankrupt for new ideas that it has to turn to comic books and Asia for inspiration, to see something that's actually innovative is noteworthy.

And the Marv storyline is the clincher because it kicked so much ass. The other two narrative arcs are "eh," but Mickey Rourke's story was the real deal.
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Old 08-29-2005, 01:12 PM   #17 (permalink)
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But there are plenty of moments in Sin City where you just think to yourself "Now WHY is that in there?"
Never had that feeling a single time during the whole movie. That's why I considered it so great.

In any way, I'm with Vorph on this one. Easily the best movie this year, and I doubt any of the upcoming are gonna beat it - V for Vendetta is skipped until spring 2006 and a 2 hour GoF is not gonna do the job matter how cool the trailer is this far.
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Old 08-29-2005, 01:41 PM   #18 (permalink)
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I'll go out on a limb and say this movie was vastly overrated. Sure, it was stylistically inventive and visually stunning. But its plot was almost nonexsistent, and as a whole, the movie was little more than an overglorified excuse to show gratuitous violence and nudity. Not that I have anything against violence or nudity, per se. But there are plenty of moments in Sin City where you just think to yourself "Now WHY is that in there?"
Kind of weird seeing someone share my opinion on this.

Yisually Sin City was one of the most amazing things I've seen in recent years, you'll be hard pressed to find something that matches its quality.

I'll admit, I've never read Sin City or paid it much attention before the movie so that may be where alot of gripes come from. But I remember leaving the theatre somewhat depressed with it - I can't give any details exactly without rewatching it and to be honest I don't think I could force myself to sit through it again.

What I do remember however is wondering how they could get away with so many consistency problems. That was really the only problem I had with it, the story.

Most of the reviews were right, oddly enough, visually stunning - but after the first few minutes you're left wondering if you still continue watching it or not.
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Old 08-29-2005, 01:47 PM   #19 (permalink)
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So yea, I still consider it easily the best movie made this year so far (and there's nothing on the horizon that I think has a chance of topping it) and one of the best I've ever seen period.
I'm torn on this one, Sin City was king of the hill this year untill Kung Fu Hustle came out on dvd, now I can't decide.
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Old 08-29-2005, 01:53 PM   #20 (permalink)
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What do you mean by consistency problems? If you're talking continuity, you should be aware that the stories don't take place in order and the time frames overlap to a degree. There's a site with a detailed timeline for everything in Sin City. Some things have to be approximated, but it all works out. The site probably won't help you much if you haven't read all the books though, and it contains spoilers so I wouldn't recommend reading it if you care about Sin City 2 or checking out the books someday.
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Old 08-29-2005, 01:57 PM   #21 (permalink)
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What do you mean by consistency problems?
One major one I noticed was the constantly changing amount of blood on Marv's face while he was tied to the chair.
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Old 08-29-2005, 02:06 PM   #22 (permalink)
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What do you mean by consistency problems? If you're talking continuity, you should be aware that the stories don't take place in order and the time frames overlap to a degree. There's a site with a detailed timeline for everything in Sin City. Some things have to be approximated, but it all works out. The site probably won't help you much if you haven't read all the books though, and it contains spoilers so I wouldn't recommend reading it if you care about Sin City 2 or checking out the books someday.
No the continuity was fine, it was far from confusing and was well done.

Kind of the reason I didn't want to post but I felt compelled to agree with Millie. I really don't remember exactly what it was, just a few things here and there that the script supervisor should've caught but didn't. More then the usual.

There was also a few(not many) holes in the story. God this is making me want to watch it again just so I can clarify my argument, heh.

(edit) Remember one: Whenever Marv goes the farm, Kevin apparently has the ability to sense when someone is nearby from within the house.

However, later in the movie(but earlier in the story), same farm house, he's too busy sitting on the front porch to notice someone is close?

It was just odd that his 6th sense doesn't work in a place it should, yet does in a place it shouldn't.
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Old 08-29-2005, 02:42 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Sin City was pure ownage, there are very few films i can watch and completely escape the surroundings im in and "live" the movie. this one delivered. Even if you hated the story there is enough of everything else there for you to enjoy.
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Old 08-29-2005, 04:10 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Old 08-29-2005, 04:17 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Any movie that makes me come out of the theater at the end feeling afraid of Elijah Wood and impressed by Mickey Rourke's acting deserves a special mention.

I felt like the universe had been turned inside out.
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Old 08-29-2005, 04:38 PM   #26 (permalink)
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One of the best movies to come out in many years.
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Old 08-29-2005, 05:36 PM   #27 (permalink)
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(edit) Remember one: Whenever Marv goes the farm, Kevin apparently has the ability to sense when someone is nearby from within the house.

However, later in the movie(but earlier in the story), same farm house, he's too busy sitting on the front porch to notice someone is close?

It was just odd that his 6th sense doesn't work in a place it should, yet does in a place it shouldn't.
Other people have brought this up. He knew they were there, he just simply didn't care, it had nothing to do with him. He's insane, living on a farm for insane people that eat/torture/rape women, he has his own insane things to tend to, not Yellow Bastards. I thought this was made pretty clear by the dialogue with Cardinal Rourke.
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Other people have brought this up. He knew they were there, he just simply didn't care, it had nothing to do with him. He's insane, living on a farm for insane people that eat/torture/rape women, he has his own insane things to tend to, not Yellow Bastards. I thought this was made pretty clear by the dialogue with Cardinal Rourke.
Yeah that was the only reason I could think of, I dunno. It's kind of hard to figure out BECAUSE they're so insane, it's hard to imagine what they would do in that situation... some insane people would be like, "Hey more people to eat," but apparently he could care less.

So that brings up the question how he knew WHY Marv was there, thus making it seem he only responds in situations which are only hostile to him... or maybe he just got lucky in caring that one time.

That's kind of a problem with movies, you're so used to things happening perfectly(albeit supposedly random to the character(s) to progress the story, that when something totally random does happen that isn't perfect it just feels odd.

Maybe it's just me, probably is.
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Old 08-29-2005, 06:35 PM   #29 (permalink)
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/sigh i agree with millie. i never thought the day would come

but seriously, it was a bunch of loosely connected trash. i'll concur 100% that it was a great adaptation of comic book action to the movie screen, but other than that it wasn't all that entertaining. on the note of continuity problems, there are fragments of scenes where there is no blood colored on his face and the scratches from kevin switch directions. these things were painfully obvious to me so i don't know how the editors missed it in such a cgi heavy movie.

many better films this year
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Old 08-29-2005, 08:11 PM   #30 (permalink)
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I love this movie. I can't really put my finger on it, but it's just incredibly entertaining to me and I love the style. I didn't really notice any continuity stuff, or if I did, it didn't bother me enough to detract from enjoying the content.

Also, what is people's beef with Willis/Alba? I thought they were pretty good. Alba is a little weak in the acting skillz (still good, just compared to Clive Owen/Mickey Rourke, imo) department, but who cares? She's the hottest person on the planet.

I don't watch movies for anything but being entertained, and this movie delivered on the most visceral level.
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