Ocean's 12

Shogon · 12-10-2004, 11:50 AM

No spoilers, pretty brief & vague review... in fact, it's not even really a review.

The first half of this movie sucked unbelievable amounts of ass.
The second half was pretty good, and there were of course tons of twists.

Overall, I'd say it's worth going to see.

Handaar · 12-10-2004, 08:54 PM

I thought it sucked. especially compared to the first one.

Deathwing · 12-10-2004, 09:51 PM

About as good as the first one. Not as much capering, but more plot twists.

SPOILER!

Can anyone explain to me why Le Marc wanted to dupe his apprentice? I understand why Danny and the crew were doing it, to pay off Benedict.

Also, that music and the lasers thing? Gay.

I also like how Benedict was talking to Ruben as if he knew he was a thief all along and they were pals all along. This movie continually throws out what you thought you knew.

END SPOILER

Belefuu · 12-11-2004, 12:52 PM

I thought it was ok, not nearly as good as the first, but a fun time.

SPOILERS

The laser part was indeed rediculous, that would be 100% impossible unless the pattern wasn't random, or he had eyes on his elbows, knees, ass, etc.

And am I the only person not knowing wtf was up with Matt Damon's parents? Am I missing some obscure comment from the first movie? Apparently his mom is, or is impersonating some Europool official? I don't know I felt there were too many "inside jokes" where they expected you had memorized every line of O11

Shogon · 12-11-2004, 01:06 PM

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Originally posted by Belefuu
And am I the only person not knowing wtf was up with Matt Damon's parents? Am I missing some obscure comment from the first movie? Apparently his mom is, or is impersonating some Europool official? I don't know I felt there were too many "inside jokes" where they expected you had memorized every line of O11

Linus'(Matt Damon) dad is Bobby Caldwell. That's about all I know about his parents.

Another interesting thing is that there were at least 3 people from Erin Brokovich in this movie. Linus' mom(Cherry Jones), Tess (Julia Roberts) & the guy La Marque (Albert Finney).

Attman_Eci · 12-11-2004, 09:59 PM

What was up with Matt Damon reciting lyrics from Kashmir?

Arbuste · 12-12-2004, 09:14 AM

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Another interesting thing is that there were at least 3 people from Erin Brokovich in this movie.

And at least 6 or 7 from Ocean's Eleven. Barely believable.
Soderbergh works with the same actors all the time (Clooney, J. Roberts...)

Fadaar · 12-12-2004, 09:30 AM

That's like complaining that Oliver Stone directed two Vietnam movies and Willem Dafoe was in both. Who cares, both were good in their different rights.

xeg_IS · 12-12-2004, 02:31 PM

Entertaining movie to say the least, but not as good as the first.

Vader · 12-13-2004, 03:52 AM

SPOILER!!!!!

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Can anyone explain to me why Le Marc wanted to dupe his apprentice? I understand why Danny and the crew were doing it, to pay off Benedict.

I believe he wanted to see his daughter, and that was Rusty's girlfriend, Catherine Zeta Jones. Thought that was mentioned somewhere when they did the retelling of there heist.

Hagthar · 12-13-2004, 09:13 AM

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Originally posted by FieryFire
SPOILER!!!!!

I believe he wanted to see his daughter, and that was Rusty's girlfriend, Catherine Zeta Jones. Thought that was mentioned somewhere when they did the retelling of there heist.

I was under the impression that he also wanted the egg, and that he would get to keep it for helping the 11 beat Night Fox. Because he stole it in the first place and was forced to return it by his late wife. Getting to meet his daughter was probably a factor too.

In the end I thought the whole thing was just a little over the top, and the Night Fox was really annoying. :P

Deathwing · 12-13-2004, 09:55 AM

When are frenchies not annoying?

Ok, but still, if the trade was Le Marc gets the egg and his daughter, he pays off their debt to Benedict....how does that involve the NightFox?

Hagthar · 12-13-2004, 11:00 AM

Spoilers :P

Le'Marc duped the Night Fox into setting up the bet, that he would pay off Ocean's debt if he won. Then he helped Ocean win so he got the egg and his daughter. Atleast thats what I got from it.

12-10-2004, 11:50 AM	#1 (permalink)
Shogon Banned Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 912 +0 Internets	Ocean's 12 No spoilers, pretty brief & vague review... in fact, it's not even really a review. The first half of this movie sucked unbelievable amounts of ass. The second half was pretty good, and there were of course tons of twists. Overall, I'd say it's worth going to see.

12-10-2004, 08:54 PM	#2 (permalink)
Handaar Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PoN Posts: 252 -4 Internets	I thought it sucked. especially compared to the first one. __________________ “You cannot win if you do not play." Maximitas - WoW - 70 Warrior Shadow Council - Exodus - Retired Handaar - EQ - 65 Dwarf Warrior Vazaelle - Retired Sicarius - WoW - 60 Rogue Proudmoore - Retired

12-10-2004, 09:51 PM	#3 (permalink)
Deathwing Sisko is the new Picard Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,607 +0 Internets	About as good as the first one. Not as much capering, but more plot twists. SPOILER! Can anyone explain to me why Le Marc wanted to dupe his apprentice? I understand why Danny and the crew were doing it, to pay off Benedict. Also, that music and the lasers thing? Gay. I also like how Benedict was talking to Ruben as if he knew he was a thief all along and they were pals all along. This movie continually throws out what you thought you knew. END SPOILER __________________ Baalzamon, For The Lose, Llane Balthemal, For The Lose, Llane Trolloc, Just The Tip, BDF(retired)

12-11-2004, 09:59 PM	#6 (permalink)
Attman_Eci Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: PA Posts: 191 +0 Internets	What was up with Matt Damon reciting lyrics from Kashmir? __________________ www.angelfire.com/hero/corksafety

12-13-2004, 09:55 AM	#12 (permalink)
Deathwing Sisko is the new Picard Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,607 +0 Internets	When are frenchies not annoying? Ok, but still, if the trade was Le Marc gets the egg and his daughter, he pays off their debt to Benedict....how does that involve the NightFox? __________________ Baalzamon, For The Lose, Llane Balthemal, For The Lose, Llane Trolloc, Just The Tip, BDF(retired)

12-11-2004, 12:52 PM	#4 (permalink)
Belefuu Poster Heavy Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 999 -2 Internets	I thought it was ok, not nearly as good as the first, but a fun time. SPOILERS The laser part was indeed rediculous, that would be 100% impossible unless the pattern wasn't random, or he had eyes on his elbows, knees, ass, etc. And am I the only person not knowing wtf was up with Matt Damon's parents? Am I missing some obscure comment from the first movie? Apparently his mom is, or is impersonating some Europool official? I don't know I felt there were too many "inside jokes" where they expected you had memorized every line of O11

12-12-2004, 09:30 AM	#8 (permalink)
Fadaar Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 1,849 -11 Internets	That's like complaining that Oliver Stone directed two Vietnam movies and Willem Dafoe was in both. Who cares, both were good in their different rights.

12-12-2004, 02:31 PM	#9 (permalink)
xeg_IS Stock Guru Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 503 -1 Internets	Entertaining movie to say the least, but not as good as the first.

12-13-2004, 11:00 AM	#13 (permalink)
Hagthar Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 17 +0 Internets	Spoilers :P Le'Marc duped the Night Fox into setting up the bet, that he would pay off Ocean's debt if he won. Then he helped Ocean win so he got the egg and his daughter. Atleast thats what I got from it.

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