Civil War

[Salshun]

I've been meaning to catch up on the Marvel Civil War series. I know that their is a rather long reading order, found here:

comic : BorkWeb

But I've heard they're making graphic novels soon to compress that. Anyone know the order in which to read the graphic novels and when they'll be out?

BTW read the intro issue to the Skrull Invasion series, very cool stuff.

[Arbitrary]

Anonymous delivers~

Master Civil War Checklist:
February (2006)
[] AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #529 (Road to Civil War)
March (2006)
[x] AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #530 (Road to Civil War)
[x] FANTASTIC FOUR #536 (Road to Civil War)
[x] NEW AVENGERS: ILLUMINATI SPECIAL #1 (Road to Civil War)
April (2006)
[x] AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #531 (Road to Civil War)
[x] FANTASTIC FOUR #537 (Road to Civil War)
[x] CIVIL WAR OPENING SHOT SKETCHBOOK
May (2006)
[x] CIVIL WAR #1
[] CIVIL WAR #1 (Capt. Unleashed; 2nd Printing)
[x] AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #532
[x] SHE-HULK #8
[x] WOLVERINE #42
[x] MARVEL SPOTLIGHT: MILLAR/MCNIVEN

June (2006)
[x] CIVIL WAR #2
[x] CIVIL WAR FRONT LINE # 1
[x] AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #533
[x] FANTASTIC FOUR #538
[x] NEW AVENGERS #21
[x] THUNDERBOLTS #103
[x] WOLVERINE #43
[x] X-FACTOR #8

July (2006)
[x] CIVIL WAR #3
[x] CIVIL WAR FRONT LINE # 3
[x] CIVIL WAR FRONT LINE # 4
[x] CIVIL WAR: X-MEN #1
[x] CIVIL WAR: YOUNG AVENGERS & RUNAWAYS #1
[x] AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #534
[x] BLACK PANTHER #18
[x] CABLE & DEADPOOL #30
[x] FANTASTIC FOUR #539
[x] NEW AVENGERS #22
[x] THUNDERBOLTS #104
[x] WOLVERINE #44
[x] X-FACTOR #9
[] DAILY BUGLE: CIVIL WAR SPECIAL EDITION NEWSPAPER

August (2006)
[x] CIVIL WAR FRONT LINE #5
[x] CIVIL WAR: X-MEN #2
[x] CIVIL WAR: YOUNG AVENGERS & RUNAWAYS #2
[x] CABLE & DEADPOOL #31
[x] HEROES FOR HIRE #1
[x] MS. MARVEL #6
[x] NEW AVENGERS #23
[x] THUNDERBOLTS #105
[x] WOLVERINE #45

September (2006)
[x] CIVIL WAR #4
[x] CIVIL WAR FILES
[x] CIVIL WAR FRONT LINE #6
[x] CIVIL WAR: X-MEN #3
[x] CIVIL WAR: YOUNG AVENGERS & RUNAWAYS #3
[x] CIVIL WAR: AMAZING SPIDER-MAN - DECISIONS (AMS 529-532)
[x] AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #535
[x] CABLE & DEADPOOL #32
[x] CAPTAIN AMERICA #22
[x] FANTASTIC FOUR #540
[x] HEROES FOR HIRE #2
[x] MS. MARVEL #7
[x] WOLVERINE #46

October (2006)
[x] CIVIL WAR: CHOOSING SIDES #1 (One-Shot)
[x] CIVIL WAR FRONT LINE #7
[x] CIVIL WAR: X-MEN #4
[x] CIVIL WAR: YOUNG AVENGERS & RUNAWAYS #4
[] BLACK PANTHER #21
[x] CAPTAIN AMERICA #23
[x] HEROES FOR HIRE #3
[x] IRON MAN #13
[x] MS. MARVEL #8
[x] NEW AVENGERS #24
[x] WOLVERINE #47

November (2006)
[x] CIVIL WAR #5
[x] CIVIL WAR FRONT LINE #8
[x] AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #536
[x] BLACK PANTHER #22
[x] CAPTAIN AMERICA #24
[x] FANTASTIC FOUR #541
[x] IRON MAN #14
[x] PUNISHER: WAR JOURNAL #1
[x] WOLVERINE #48
[x] NEW AVENGERS #25

December (2006)
[x] CIVIL WAR FRONT LINE #9
[x] CIVIL WAR: WAR CRIMES #1 (One-Shot)
[x] BLACK PANTHER #23
[x] IRON MAN/CAPTAIN AMERICA SPECIAL #1 (Casualties of War) Missing one variant
[x] WINTER SOLDIER: WINTER KILLS #1 (Casualties of War)

January (2007)
[x] CIVIL WAR #6
[x] CIVIL WAR: FRONT LINE #10
[x] AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #537
[x] BLACK PANTHER #24
[x] BLADE #5 (Casualties of War)
[x] FANTASTIC FOUR #542
[x] MOON KNIGHT #7 (Casualties of War)
[x] PUNISHER: WAR JOURNALS #2
[x] PUNISHER: WAR JOURNALS #3
[x] CIVIL WAR: THE RETURN #1 I also have the variant

February (2007)
[x] AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #538 I also have the hard to find variant
[x] CIVIL WAR #7
[x] CIVIL WAR: FRONT LINE #11
[] CIVIL WAR: BATTLE DAMAGE REPORT Not out yet
[x] BLACK PANTHER #25
[] CAPTAIN AMERICA #25
[] CIVIL WAR POSTER BOOK Not out yet
[x] CIVIL WAR: THE INITIATIVE
[x] FANTASTIC FOUR #543
[x] IRON MAN #15

Hasn't been released yet:

[] MARVEL SPOTLIGHT: CIVIL WAR AFTERMATH
[] MOON KNIGHT #8 (Casualties of War)
[] NEW AVENGERS VOL. 5: CIVIL WAR PREMIERE (HC, NEW AVENGERS #21-25)
[] MS. MARVEL VOL. 2: CIVIL WAR PREMIERE (HC, MS. MARVEL #6-10 and the MS. MARVEL SPECIAL.)
[] CIVIL WAR: THE ROAD TO CIVIL WAR (TPB, AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #529-531, FANTASTIC FOUR #536-537 and the NEW AVENGERS: ILLUMINATI one-shot.)
[] CIVIL WAR: BLACK PANTHER WAR CRIMES One-Shot (BLACK PANTHER #21-23)
[] CIVIL WAR: CASUALTIES OF WAR One-Shot (IRON MAN/CAPTAIN AMERICA, WAR CRIMES, WINTER SOLDIER)
March (2007)
[] CIVIL WAR: THE CONFESSION
[] MOON KNIGHT #9 (Casualties of War)
[] CIVIL WAR (TPB CIVIL WAR #1-7)
[] CIVIL WAR-AMAZING SPIDER-MAN (TPB AMS #532-538)
[] CIVIL WAR-CIVIL WAR: YOUNG AVENGERS & RUNAWAYS (TPB YA&R #1-4)
[] CIVIL WAR-FANTASTIC FOUR (TPB FANTASTIC FOUR #1-7)
[] CIVIL WAR-THUNDERBOLTS (TPB THUNDERBOLTS #101-105)

[Salshun]

Yes, but I've heard they're compressing all of that into a couple of graphic novels, which I probably should wait for.

[Arbitrary]

Torrent.

[Salshun]

Originally Posted by Arbitrary

Torrent.

Excellent call.

Still think it would be cool to have them for real in a nice magazine rack at the house.

[fucker]

Originally Posted by Salshun

Excellent call.

Still think it would be cool to have them for real in a nice magazine rack at the house.

if civil war was an interesting storyline with amazing plot and action, i would agree

too bad it's nothing like that. it had the potential to be a groundbreaking storyline that would change marvel universe to its core, but in the end it failed the target by a long shot

[Arbitrary]

It starts out fine, the middle is fine, it just doesn't have a satisfying end. At all. The What Ifs and Epilogues help a bit because they essentially just kick Tony Stark in the sack a few times, which he needed.

Then they kill off Captain America and Mephistopholes undoes everything that was making Spiderman pretty damned interesting.

Bleh.

The Initiative series is the best thing to come out of Civil War and it only comes out like once every six weeks. It's fucking bullshit.

World War Hulk also doesn't come together very well although Planet Hulk was pretty cool. Meanwhile DC is still working through this god fucking awful Crisis bullshit which is a same because The Sinestro Wars were all great.

I'm hoping the Secret Invasion starting in April is good. So far the beginnings have been solid but these last couple years Marvel hasn't been able to satisfyingly finish a storyarc.

[Tabris]

Marvel sucks a fat dick right now. DC is doing way more interesting work, at least Grant Morrison is willing to push the envelope with his Final Crisis series, whereas Marvel gets this fucking retarded Skrull invasion which they did back in the X-Men comics in 1999-2000 and it sucked then. Basically modern superhero comics is a bunch of people (Millar, Bendis, et al) jerking themselves off to try to think up of the wittiest one liner they can and then write the comic around it, while telling the same stupid stories we've seen for about 40 years. It's insulting and it's the reason comic book writers are, for the most part, one step up from graffiti artists.

[Salshun]

Originally Posted by Arbitrary

I'm hoping the Secret Invasion starting in April is good. So far the beginnings have been solid but these last couple years Marvel hasn't been able to satisfyingly finish a storyarc.

Yeah, I got the Issue 0 freebie they were giving away, good stuff, especially with all the old art inside.