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Old 12-19-2007, 11:48 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Furor didn't name the guild though. He wasn't even GL at the time.
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Old 12-21-2007, 11:29 PM   #32 (permalink)
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I put this series down around book 7 or 8...it just got to seem like Jordan was jerking everyone around with needless fluff to continue his story. Its a shame too, because the series started off with such promise.
7-9 are kind of a boring blur to me every time i go through the series, i usually just skip everything that isnt Rand. 10 picks up the pace a little and 11 gets it going again.
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Old 12-22-2007, 09:22 AM   #33 (permalink)
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The only books I just thought were really bad were 8 and 10, but the series as a whole is sitll one of my favorite.

Sure hope this guy can do a decent job. If he can't, I'd rather there just never was an end.
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Old 12-22-2007, 11:51 AM   #34 (permalink)
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Old 01-01-2008, 09:33 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Exerpt from the interview:

"However, know that I intend to use EVERY BIT of actual written text from Mr. Jordan, and in intend to follow those outlines as exactly as possible. I've been told that there is a substantial amount that I will have to come up with, but I will always have a guide--if only a few lines or dictated explanations"

Pretty damn pissed about this.
About what part? The fact that he is going to use the material that Jordan had already written for the final book, or that he'll have to be creative in connecting the dots?

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Wow that sucks, I thought the family was told the ending and knew how each subplot was supposed to end??
In the Dragonmount blog posting titled "Rumors and rumors of rumors", it was written that Jordan told his family "the bones of it". Even if this was a detailed outline, it is still just an outline.

For example, we know that Morinne will be rescued, and Jordan may have already detailed how the actual rescue will take place, but he may not have anything written on the journey to get there, what happens when they enter the tower, and all of the bits leading up to the rescue.

I'm just glad that an author was selected. With any luck, the last book will come out on time or slightly ahead of schedule.
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Old 01-03-2008, 05:51 PM   #36 (permalink)
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So I went to my library and checked out everything they had by Brian Sanderson. I must say after reading his first 2 books that the end of WoT will be an amazing one. I did think he can grow weak at the ending of his books but the buildup and imaginative powers Sanderson has are unique to fantasy today. I can't wait to read it.
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Old 01-08-2008, 07:50 PM   #37 (permalink)
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I'm currently working my way through the series, almost onto book 6 and i have to agree that a different author for the final book would most likely be better than Jordan.
it's a good series, just so much useless bullshit it amazes me, too much side-plot bullshit, and way too light on the action. It's 200 pages of buildup, then 3 pages of actual fighting with sweet fuck all descriptions of the fighting. Such as mat killing Couladin or whatever his name is, we get to learn that by some broad telling Rand in his tent. That battle and showdown was a fucking 400 page buildup and huge plot line, then he he just gets owned like a chump.

Hopefully the rest of the series doesn't make me want to impale myself on a garden stake like that part did.
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Old 01-09-2008, 05:13 PM   #38 (permalink)
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Dude, book 6 is where it nose dives. If book 6 has too much filler, just wait for every other book in the series that successively increases the signal:braid tugging ratio.

If you're getting sick of it at 6, stop. Maybe pick up the last 2 books IF Sanderson finishes it in one. You won't have missed much.
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Jordan's been saying all along that he had it all figured out; he was lying. He knew some of what was going to happen, but not HOW it happens. That's the hard part. Yeah, Moiraine gets rescued. Yeah, Matt ends up the emperor of Seanchan or whatever.

That's the easy part. Think of it like building a nuke. You get need to get a supercritical mass, causing an uncontrolled chain reaction, causing a big boom. How the fuck you go about constructing a device that does all those things is the hard part.

Stupid analogy, I know, but Sanderson is basically being given a paper clip, a rubber band, and a diagram of explosive lensing and being told to construct aplutonium bomb. If he does it, it's 'cause he did it, no thanks (from what he said he got) to what Jordan handed to him. My bet is that anyone who has read the books has as many details as were passed off to Sanderson.

But I'm just a hata.
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Old 01-10-2008, 04:13 AM   #39 (permalink)
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Go to your local library and read all the rand chapters from 7-19, Mat too if you like him.

Skip anything involving any of the women or perrin, read a synopsis online someplace.
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Old 01-10-2008, 10:30 PM   #40 (permalink)
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Except Rand has maybe 2 chapters every book after book 4 or 5.
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Old 01-10-2008, 11:03 PM   #41 (permalink)
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That's what really killed the series in my opinion. You start out with a strong focus on a central hero and his allies, but as the story progresses he tries to alter the way the reader learns about events. You go from "being there" in Rand's head to just a bystander who hears about the great things he's done. It really pulls the rug out from under significant moments.

Thank god you at least get the cool fights in some of the later books. Those parts are awesome, even if the rest of the books themselves are subpar.

And Winter's Heart was pure own.

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Old 01-11-2008, 12:46 AM   #42 (permalink)
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Except Rand has maybe 2 chapters every book after book 4 or 5.
i know, i recently went through the series again, hit book 7 and just skipped everything that wasnt rand.

I finished 7-8-9 in like an hour. i left knife of dreams at my old house sadly, i quite enjoyed it.
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Old 01-19-2008, 10:46 PM   #43 (permalink)
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Knife of Dreams is what the other books post book 6 should have been had RJ not gotten money hungry and dragged out the series.
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Old 01-20-2008, 08:18 PM   #44 (permalink)
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I think it was more of Jordan getting older and bored with the series than anything, so he made secondary character threads to entertain himself, and then he got bored with that too.
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Old 01-20-2008, 09:06 PM   #45 (permalink)
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Well he could have just wound the series off 4 or 5 books ago then retired and lived off his money, would have been a much better solution for boredom than constantly dragging it out and expanding it unnecessarily.
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