Bleach [Manga] - Spoilers up to the most recent Chapter. - Page 4

Asmadai · 02-11-2008, 06:47 AM

Nah, no way Ichigo will have to step in to save Kenpachi's ass. Kubo isn't that dumb, and everyone would have a field day if that happened.

Kenpachi will definately have to go Bankai to pull out this victory. That or just play another 'haha you think you hurt me? /whipass' card on Nnoitra's released form.

Edit: Interesting theory I see floating around, that i've yet to actually think on until now. The last un-named Espada - the old man. People are saying what if, that's actually like, Chad's Abuelo (Grandfather). It could bring more advancement to Chad's storyline, and given that they started the focus of how Chad's powers are more Hollow-like than Quincy/Shinigami-like, it's an interesting theory.

skalls · 02-11-2008, 09:42 AM

I dont think Kenpachi is pulling a bankai out of his ass.

I think he's gonna start laughing on the ground saying he hasn't had this much fun since hes fought Ichigo. Then he's going to toy around with this new release a little bit and end up having the upperhand by the end of the next chapter.

I wouldn't be surprised if he's managed a shikai release, but even then i think thats stretching things a bit.

Chinaman889 · 02-11-2008, 06:51 PM

Someone mentioned a few pages back that Kenpachi had addressed his Zanpaktou as a "him". Perhaps Ken really has accessed more of his sword's power?

Kobalt · 02-11-2008, 07:06 PM

Reading this thread reminded me I love bleach, not counting the god awful fillers.

Anyone know around what vol/chap it is where orihime asks the vizards to train her but shes rejected? Think thats the last anime episode I watched before it got such exciting episodes as lets play soccer the entire episode and I just quit.

Peacecraft · 02-12-2008, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Chinaman889

Someone mentioned a few pages back that Kenpachi had addressed his Zanpaktou as a "him". Perhaps Ken really has accessed more of his sword's power?

Bleach 308 page 14 | One Manga

maybe i'm looking into this too much but on this page is Kenpachi talking to the espada or to his sword?

cdyhybrid · 02-12-2008, 06:17 PM

I believe he is thanking Nnoitra for the warm up and is gonna use "him" (his sword) to thank him (Nnoitra).

Chinaman889 · 02-12-2008, 07:22 PM

Hence the hint that perhaps Ken has learned more about his Zanpaktou.

skalls · 02-12-2008, 10:39 PM

or he is just referring to the sword in a similiar fashion that we refer to our posessions sometimes.

I won't be surprised if I see a shikai, but im going to be pissed if he has a bankai.

Asmadai · 02-13-2008, 10:54 AM

If Kenpachi gets a Shikai release, alot of people will be pissed. It's already been said that he's in a constant release state like Ichigo, so there isn't a shikai release for them.

Now I can maybe see him having learned his zanpaktou's name, and it causing a huge power increase of sorts, but not a shikai.

cdyhybrid · 02-13-2008, 12:13 PM

He can't learn shikai, like was already said, because he's already in shikai. However, learning his sword's name would also probably entail learning the name of some shikai abilities (i.e. Ichigo's Getsuga Tenshou) in addition to a large power-up.

skalls · 02-13-2008, 02:35 PM

um, hes never released his sword. He said as much himself in the SS Arc. In fact he goes so far to say that Ichigo's weak for relying on the power of others (ie his sword) rather than your own power.

I dont ever recall it stating in the manga that his sword is like ichigos and is in a permanent released state.

Asmadai · 02-13-2008, 03:14 PM

skalls · 02-13-2008, 03:38 PM

Shikai isn't the true form of the sword, neither is bankai either. Thats just the regular non-released state.

Ken's sword in that form is like ichigos huge sword from the initial arc.

I could be wrong, but that doesn't prove that its released.

The Dauntless One · 02-13-2008, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by skalls

Shikai isn't the true form of the sword, neither is bankai either. Thats just the regular non-released state.

Ken's sword in that form is like ichigos huge sword from the initial arc.

I could be wrong, but that doesn't prove that its released.

LOL

skalls · 02-13-2008, 05:18 PM

My bad, meant original form not true form.

02-11-2008, 06:47 AM	#46 (permalink)
Asmadai Monolith - Area 52 Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Sealab Posts: 2,248	Nah, no way Ichigo will have to step in to save Kenpachi's ass. Kubo isn't that dumb, and everyone would have a field day if that happened. Kenpachi will definately have to go Bankai to pull out this victory. That or just play another 'haha you think you hurt me? /whipass' card on Nnoitra's released form. Edit: Interesting theory I see floating around, that i've yet to actually think on until now. The last un-named Espada - the old man. People are saying what if, that's actually like, Chad's Abuelo (Grandfather). It could bring more advancement to Chad's storyline, and given that they started the focus of how Chad's powers are more Hollow-like than Quincy/Shinigami-like, it's an interesting theory. Last edited by Asmadai : 02-11-2008 at 08:35 AM.

02-11-2008, 06:51 PM	#48 (permalink)
Chinaman889 100% Banana Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 646 +0 Internets	Someone mentioned a few pages back that Kenpachi had addressed his Zanpaktou as a "him". Perhaps Ken really has accessed more of his sword's power? __________________ [22:56:21] Amerame > anyway sending Pandemic Legion to shoot at ISS is using a gun to shoot a fly. Pointless.

02-12-2008, 07:22 PM	#52 (permalink)
Chinaman889 100% Banana Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 646 +0 Internets	Hence the hint that perhaps Ken has learned more about his Zanpaktou. __________________ [22:56:21] Amerame > anyway sending Pandemic Legion to shoot at ISS is using a gun to shoot a fly. Pointless.

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02-11-2008, 09:42 AM	#47 (permalink)
skalls Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 108 -1 Internets	I dont think Kenpachi is pulling a bankai out of his ass. I think he's gonna start laughing on the ground saying he hasn't had this much fun since hes fought Ichigo. Then he's going to toy around with this new release a little bit and end up having the upperhand by the end of the next chapter. I wouldn't be surprised if he's managed a shikai release, but even then i think thats stretching things a bit.

02-11-2008, 07:06 PM	#49 (permalink)
Kobalt Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 762 +13 Internets	Reading this thread reminded me I love bleach, not counting the god awful fillers. Anyone know around what vol/chap it is where orihime asks the vizards to train her but shes rejected? Think thats the last anime episode I watched before it got such exciting episodes as lets play soccer the entire episode and I just quit.

02-12-2008, 06:17 PM	#51 (permalink)
cdyhybrid Go Dawgs! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Oahu/Seattle Posts: 501 +0 Internets	I believe he is thanking Nnoitra for the warm up and is gonna use "him" (his sword) to thank him (Nnoitra).

02-12-2008, 10:39 PM	#53 (permalink)
skalls Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 108 -1 Internets	or he is just referring to the sword in a similiar fashion that we refer to our posessions sometimes. I won't be surprised if I see a shikai, but im going to be pissed if he has a bankai.

02-13-2008, 10:54 AM	#54 (permalink)
Asmadai Monolith - Area 52 Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Sealab Posts: 2,248	If Kenpachi gets a Shikai release, alot of people will be pissed. It's already been said that he's in a constant release state like Ichigo, so there isn't a shikai release for them. Now I can maybe see him having learned his zanpaktou's name, and it causing a huge power increase of sorts, but not a shikai.

02-13-2008, 12:13 PM	#55 (permalink)
cdyhybrid Go Dawgs! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Oahu/Seattle Posts: 501 +0 Internets	He can't learn shikai, like was already said, because he's already in shikai. However, learning his sword's name would also probably entail learning the name of some shikai abilities (i.e. Ichigo's Getsuga Tenshou) in addition to a large power-up.

02-13-2008, 02:35 PM	#56 (permalink)
skalls Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 108 -1 Internets	um, hes never released his sword. He said as much himself in the SS Arc. In fact he goes so far to say that Ichigo's weak for relying on the power of others (ie his sword) rather than your own power. I dont ever recall it stating in the manga that his sword is like ichigos and is in a permanent released state.

02-13-2008, 03:38 PM	#58 (permalink)
skalls Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 108 -1 Internets	Shikai isn't the true form of the sword, neither is bankai either. Thats just the regular non-released state. Ken's sword in that form is like ichigos huge sword from the initial arc. I could be wrong, but that doesn't prove that its released.

02-13-2008, 05:18 PM	#60 (permalink)
skalls Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 108 -1 Internets	My bad, meant original form not true form.