[Manga] Naruto (warning: spoilers up to current chapter)

[Lenas]

Originally Posted by Nazbuk

The first has the wood technique that can supress the Kyuubi. That's why Madara lost.

Yeah but they don't explain anything about the fight. It's all assumptions we have right now, so here's mine:

My best guess is that to beat Madara, the Shodai had to first use the crystal / mokuton jutsu to get rid of kyuubi. After that, to get around Madara's mangekyou, he had to use his eternal darkness jutsu that we saw used against the Third years ago.

[Chinaman889]

I'm guessing that Madara's story is 100% true - but from his point of view. We won't be able to make any final decision until we hear from the Leaf Village (specifically from Danzou and those other two old folk).

[Goofy]

in 1 of the pics why does madara's bro look like sasuke with the same clothes as young sasuke?

[Kaio]

Hrm, i wonder if there might be a relation there... maybe extended family (though you can probably say the entire clan is like an extended family since they share the same genes/sharingan).

[The Dauntless One]

Originally Posted by Lenas

Except that Pein already spoke at length about getting all of the bijuu to create the ultimate weapon.

I'm pretty sure Madara is the leader and Pein is just acting as leader

[Kaio]

Madara is the one giving orders but Pein seems to want to change that.

[column]

Naruto 400 spoiler was confirmed today.

First post:

イタチは暗部にスパイの為に入ったが里側に情報を流した二重スパイだった
Itachi entered Anbu as a spy, but as he leaked information to the village side, he was a double spy

イタチは4才で戦争を経験しているから里の安定を第一に考えていた
Because Itachi experienced a war when he was 4, he thought that the stability of the village came first

だから仕方なくうちは抹殺をした
So he had no choice but obliterating the clan

三代目は和解をしようとしたが間に合わずあの夜へと
The Third tried to compromise, but there was no time before that night

抜け忍になるのも指令の一つだった
Becoming a missing-nin was also his instructions

だがイタチは一つ失敗をした
But Itachi made one mistake

弟を殺せなかった
He didn't kill his brother

サスケをまもるように三代目に頼みサスケに手を出さないようダンゾウを脅して里を抜けた
He asked the Third to protect Sasuke, threatened Danzou to lay off Sasuke, and left.

イタチは初めからサスケに力を与え死ぬつもりだったらしい
I seems that from the beginning, Itachi intended to die and leave his powers to Sasuke

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この作戦を練ったのはたぶんダンゾウ。 . その為里を出る前にダンゾウにサスケに手を出せば他国にこの話をして木の葉を潰させると言って ました 潰さ
The one who came up with this strategy was probably Danzou. That's why, before leaving the village, he told Danzou that if he laid a finger on Sasuke, he would tell other countries about this, and they would destroy Konoha

マダラにはうちはへの復讐の手引きをするかわりに全滅させる事を条件に出しました
As for Madara, far from leading the revenge, he gave the condition that they would be anihilated (NOT sure about this sentence)

クーデターの首謀人物はサスケの親父 親父
The leader of the coup d'état was Sasuke's father

付け足すのはこんくらいかなぁ
That's about it

the spoiler guy posted that this one is the real spoiler(may be the same as the ones he posted but who knows):
This is a summary of the chapter


とりあえず簡易おいとく
Anyway, to make it short
すでに来てたらスルーしてくれ
If you were here before, skip this

過去の経験で里の安定を第一と考えていたイタチは2重スパイとして
Because of what had happened in the past, Itachi thought that stability of the village was the most important thing, so he became a double spy

里側にも情報を渡してた そして一族殺しと里抜けの指令を与えられたが唯一弟だけは殺せなかった 殺せなかった
He gave information to the Village side. Then, when he got the order to kill the clan and leave the village, he did not kill his brother

結局サスケに害が及ばぬよう手回しして里抜けした 及ばぬ
In the end, he saw to it that no harm would come to Sasuke, and left the village

Ammanas Spoiler Pic #1:

Madara: Your father, Fugaku, was the mastermind who led the coup d'etat.

Ammanas Spoiler Pic #2:

Madara: His entire mission was to become a rouge ninja, with his name sullied as the criminal who murdered his entire clan.

Ammanas Spoiler Pic #3:

Madara: He was the sort of man...to put the stability of the village first and act in the interest of peace.

Heiji-sama Pic #2:

Sasuke: That...has to be a lie...

[Nazbuk]

I'm getting tired of this back story. Sure sure he was the greatest most loving ninja in the whole freakin' world. I wish they'd move on to what's going to happen next in the now.

[column]

You got to understand most of us have been waiting for this for 399 chapter,close to 3 years haha. Hes laying the groundwork for the final battle.

[Grave]

Originally Posted by column

You got to understand most of us have been waiting for this for 399 chapter,close to 3 years haha. Hes laying the groundwork for the final battle.

Eh, I'm hugely interested in the Uchiha clan, and actually feel that it is a more interesting story than Naruto's own (although they are starting to come closer and closer together) and yet I still feel like he's dragging this on a bit. This new chapter is essentially just reiterating what he's already said or we could already figure out. We get it. Now what is Sasuke going to do? That's what I want to know.

[column]

401 Confirmed

サスケ「でたらめだ」「オレは何度も殺されかけた」
Sasuke: It’s ridiculous. He tried to kill me countless times.

マダラ「本気なら確実にそうなっていたな」
Madara: If he was serious about killing you, he would have already.

サスケ「あいつは瞳術まで使いオレを殺そうとしたんだ！」
Sasuke: He even used his eye techniques to try and kill me!

天照のシーンを思い出す
*Flashback to the scene where Itachi uses Amaterasu.

マダラ「お前の対処も計算の内だ。イタチはお前を追い込む必要があった」
Madara: Your reaction to his attack was a part of his plan. He knew he had to push you into a corner.

「もうお前は気付いて るだろ？」
Madara: You must have figured it out by now, right?

サスケがイタチが大蛇丸を倒した場面を思い出す
*Sasuke remembers back when Itachi finished off Orochimaru

そしてサスケの首を見て
*Madara looks at Sasuke’s neck

マダラ「呪印からの解放。そしてもっとも親しい者の死……お前にマン毛を開眼させる戦いでもあ った」
Madara: To release you from the cursed seal. And the death of the one closest to you…the fight was just as much about forcing you to unlock the Mangekyou Sharingan.

「あれ はすべてイタチの仕組んだ戦いだった。お前の眼を奪う芝居を最後まで演じきってな」
Madara: All of it was part of the fight Itachi planned. He put on the act of trying to take your eyes up until the very end.

黙るサスケ
*Sasuke is silent

マダラ「飲み込めてきたな？」
Madara: Have you taken it all in?

サスケ「お前は嘘をついてる！」「キュウビに里を襲わせたのはお前の仕業だとイタチは言った！ 」
Sasuke: You’re lying! Itachi said that you were the one that unleashed the Kyuubi on the village!

また３コマだけイタチと喋った回想シーン
*Another flashback to what Itachi said during the fight

サスケ「うちはに濡れ衣を着せた！一族を弄ぶために！」
Sasuke: To give the Uchiha a bad name! To play games with the clan!

マダラ「さっきも言ったがそれも嘘だ。お前に真実が伝わるのをイタチは恐れていた」「その可能 性を残さぬよ うにお前にオレを信用させない為嘘をつき、天照までも仕込んだ」
Madara: I said it before, but that is a lie. Itachi feared that I might tell you the truth. In order to prevent such a possibility he lied to you so you wouldn’t trust me and even rigged your eyes with Amaterasu.

サスケ「信じられるか！イタチは悪だ！暁に染まった犯罪者だ！」
Sasuke: You think I can believe you?! Itachi was evil! He was a criminal made so by Akatsuki!

マダラ「ただ一人決してぬぐえぬ罪を背負い里を抜けてなお暁に入り込み里にとって危険な組織を 内側から見張 っていた……常に里を想いながら……そしてお前のことを……お前を守る約束をした３代目が死ん でイタチはす ぐ木の葉に姿を表した」
Madara: He took on the burden of a crime that cannot be erased and even in leaving the village joined Akatsuki, an organization considered a threat to the village, to monitor its activities from the inside…thinking of the village…and of you. When the 3rd Hokage, who had promised Itachi he would watch over you, died Itachi immediately appeared in the village.

「里の上層部にオレは生きていると忠告するためだった……お前の事をなにより
Madara; It was as a warning to the village elders…he thought of you above all…

「やめろぉ！！うそだ！全部― ―」
Sasuke: Stop it!! It’s a lie! It’s all----

まだら「なぜならお前は生きている！」
Madara: Because you are still alive!

またまた白目をむくサスケ
*Sasuke makes more about to pass out/crazy freakout faces.

イタチとの戦いのシーン
*Flashback to a scene in the fight between Sasuke and Itachi

マダラ「お前の眼はイタチのことを見抜けなかった。何一つ見抜けなかった」「だがイタチは…友 を殺し上司を 殺し恋人を殺し父を殺し母を殺した………だが弟だけは殺せなかった」
Madara: In the end your eyes couldn’t see through Itachi at all. Your eyes couldn’t see a single thing. But Itachi…he killed his friends…his superiors…his lover…his father…and his mother…but you were the only one he just couldn’t kill.

クナイでサスケの縄を切る
*Madara cuts Sasuke’s ropes with a kunai

マダラ「涙を流しながら感情を一切殺して里の為に同胞を殺した男が……お前を殺せなかった―― その意味がわ かるか？」
Madara: The man who while shedding a tear cut away all his feelings and killed his fellow countrymen for the sake of the village…couldn’t kill you. Do you understand the meaning behind that?

「あいつにとってお前の命は里よりも重かったのだ」
Madara: To him, your life was even more important than the village.
またサスケかっこいい目をしてる
*Sasuke has his pretty boy face on again

「あいつは死んでもなおお前に力を授けるためお前に倒されることでうちは一族の敵を討った―― 英雄にお前を 仕立て上げるために」
Madara: In his dying he did it to pass his power on to you and in being defeated by you avenge the Uchiha clan—and make you a hero by defeating him.

イタチが血を吐くシーン
*Flashback of scene where Itachi spits up blood

「病に蝕まれ近づく死期を感じながら薬で無理矢理延命を続けながら………最愛の弟の為に……」
Madara: Even as he felt his own end coming from the disease eating away at him he took medication to keep living…for his brother who he loved most dearly…

イタチの死んだ場面
*Flashback of Itachi’s death scene

そして部屋の蝋燭が消える
*Then the candles in the cave/room go out.

お前と戦いお前の前で死なねばならなかった
*He had to die in front of you during your battle with him.

場面はかわりサスケは一人海を眺める
*Scene changes to Sasuke staring out at the sea.

木の葉の為そしてサスケの為に犯罪者として裏切り者として死ぬことをのぞんだ
He, for the sake of the leaf village and for the sake of you, wished to die as a criminal and a traitor.

名誉の代償に汚名を…愛の代償に憎しみを受け取り
He traded honor for a sullied name…he traded love for scorn...

それでもイタチは笑って死んだ
…and even with all that, Itachi died smiling.

サスケのアップになる
*Last panel is Sasuke

弟のお前にうちはの名を託しお前をだまし続けたまま……
*Itachi kept you in the dark all this time to pass on the name Uchiha to you…

以上です
*That’s it for this week

なんかイタチに恋人がいたらしくてショックですね
*Comment from spoiler writer: I’m kinda shocked that Itachi might’ve actually had a girlfriend.

[The Dauntless One]

MOVE THE FUCK ON PLEASE. STOP DRAGGING SHIT ON WITH CRAPPY DRAWINGS. HOLY FUCK!

[column]

Key revelations in this latest episode. We now know why Itachi was in Kohona after the 3rd died and why he didn't kill Kakashi. Sasuke will get a new suit , so I am guessing that Naruto will also.

Things that are left up in the air, why did Madara harbor Itachi in Akatsuki if he knows that he was a spy and was always protecting Konoha.What is Sasukes next move? will he attack Danzou and root with team hebi.

MOVE THE FUCK ON PLEASE. STOP DRAGGING SHIT ON WITH CRAPPY DRAWINGS. HOLY FUCK!

[Lenas]

Originally Posted by The Dauntless One

MOVE THE FUCK ON PLEASE. STOP DRAGGING SHIT ON WITH CRAPPY DRAWINGS. HOLY FUCK!

I hope you're just complaining and not trying to rip on the art quality, because it's been fucking great.

As far as dragging on goes, calm down. This is all essential information to give Sasuke a new reason to be in the story. Up until now his entire goal has been to kill Itachi - don't you think that something new would be a little refreshing? I'm very interested to see what he's planning on doing now, since I'm going to assume that Madara isn't going to be his main focus until later.

[skalls]

Madara is completly fucking with his mind hoping to turn Sasuke into a loyal ally.

Obviously you have to take what he has to say with a grain of salt because he could be bending the truth or omitting things here and there.

Does Sasuke have the improved Mangekyoken(i know i spelled that wrong) Sharingen?