[Manga] Naruto (warning: spoilers up to current chapter)

[Lenardo]

probably his dad ya....

[Grave]

I don't see any reason to assume they weren't real. Fans are constantly underestimating Kakashi because he hasn't had a serious fight in the series to show what he can really do. He's a badass.

As for Naruto being one of the few to know it, that's not even up for argument. Kakashi uses Kage Bunshin again vs. Itachi when he and Kisame show up in the Leaf Village. He has one facing Itachi and one facing Kisame, and Kurenai specifically comments that it's a Kage Bunshin. The only debatable thing really is the amount he can do, which would obviously come no where near to Naruto's amount simply because he has near-infinite chakra from the nine-tails.

Imho, he can create the amount he did on the bridge or even more, he simply doesn't do so because it would split his chakra up so much that they would each be incredibly weak. He did it in this case just to scare the thugs off, but he would never use it in a real fight which is why we never see him using more than one or two later on.

Either way, rather pointless argument I suppose. Sorry for starting it. >.>

Edit: As a side note on this topic, Naruto really needs to learn that exploding kage bunshin technique that Itachi can do. Imagine sending 100 exploding clones after an enemy. :S

[Gryeyes]

Just the raw number of the clones and how tired he was kind of implies it was a bluff/illusion. And he summoned like 20 clones which i dont believe anyone has done except naruto. So since the intention was to bluff and was tired its pretty safe to assume they were not shadow clones. Why divide your chakra so many times when piss tired when you can just bluff with normal clones.

But i do agree kakashi is a badass and most certainly can use the technique. Hes just not an x-man like so many of the other characters seem to be. In terms of raw strength at least.

[Caliane]

He shot laser beams out of his eye. He is an xman.

[Schezanna]

Yeah, bending time and space to rip your opponent apart is a few steps above most xmen.

[Gryeyes]

Originally Posted by Schezanna

Yeah, bending time and space to rip your opponent apart is a few steps above most xmen.

Yet still so mundane compared to half plant man,shark boy,snake body man,spider dude,Mouth in palms guy and the rest of the circus show. Kakashi is pretty tame in comparison. Hes still human. Not a freak of deity like power.

[Zarcath]

Originally Posted by Grave

As for Naruto being one of the few to know it, that's not even up for argument. Kakashi uses Kage Bunshin again vs. Itachi when he and Kisame show up in the Leaf Village. He has one facing Itachi and one facing Kisame, and Kurenai specifically comments that it's a Kage Bunshin. The only debatable thing really is the amount he can do, which would obviously come no where near to Naruto's amount simply because he has near-infinite chakra from the nine-tails.

Uh, I did conceed that sharingan users most likely know Kage Bushin, but we don't know of many "normal" ninjas that use it to such a degree or at all. Hence "Naruto being one of the few".

Yeah Kakashi doesn't get his due, but what's really strange that in Japan, Iruka-sensei has a huge fan following and we hardly see him anymore.

[Grave]

Yeah, sorry dude, I was pretty scattered yesterday and for some reason thought people were saying Kakashi could only make the illusion of Kage Bunshin and not real ones. My bad.

Hoping we actually see some action in this weeks chapter. Sasuke has already been impressive since the time skip, but I'd really like to see if he's been holding back some awesome techniques for this moment. I'm really curious what that move he was about to do vs. Naruto and co. was, when he raised his arm but then Orochimaru stopped him.

[Lenas]

I don't see how it's debatable that Kakashi made shadow clones on the bridge? He says in both the manga and anime "kage bunshin no jutsu" whih translates to shadow clone technique, so I would think that'd be proof enough? If nothing else, just chalk it up as a plot hole that he was able to make that many.

Anyway - I know Sasuke isn't going to lose this fight because Kishimoto said this year is going to be focused on him.. Can't do that if he's dead. However, I don't know whats going to happen to Itachi either. I don't know if Sasuke can take his eyes and wtfpwn like Madara, because Itachi's eyes are already failing.

Will be interesting to watch.

[Zarcath]

even if they are really shadow clones, we don't know how capable they even were, since Kakashi was really drained after fighting Zabuza. That display of power was just a gambit to scare them into not fighting.

[Lenas]

I know exactly how capable they are:

Exhausted Kakashi / 20 = Clone

Tough math. Wtf does it matter?

[Zarcath]

Kakashi x 20 = Exhausted Clones

[Grave]

Originally Posted by Lenas

I don't know if Sasuke can take his eyes and wtfpwn like Madara, because Itachi's eyes are already failing.

It's possible that the blindness could be totally reversed if you take anothers eyes, since we know they are immune to further blindness at least. Wouldn't be too far fetched, I guess we'll have to see.

Seems like Itachi is pretty much done for soon, his storyline has been completely revealed now and mystery was one of his greatest character strengths before. I wonder if Sasuke will take the good guy route and leave his brother alive, or go through with his revenge.

[Nazbuk]

Originally Posted by Grave

It's possible that the blindness could be totally reversed if you take anothers eyes, since we know they are immune to further blindness at least. Wouldn't be too far fetched, I guess we'll have to see.

Seems like Itachi is pretty much done for soon, his storyline has been completely revealed now and mystery was one of his greatest character strengths before. I wonder if Sasuke will take the good guy route and leave his brother alive, or go through with his revenge.

But what will he be left with after his revenge? It's his driving goal in life. It's his Ninja way. (smirk)

[Man0warr]

Kage Bunshin splits your chakra up evenly, remember the comment Orochimaru made when fighting against the Third Hokage?

Naruto is one of the few that can pull off a ton of clones (that are actually still powerful themselves) because he has the highest amount of chakra in the manga, besides Kisame atleast.