Recommended reading from an Atheist - Page 5

Screamfeeder · 03-28-2007, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Taranatar

Unfortunately you can't expect people to understand it, essentially, because they refuse to.

But of course you do correct?

Here is another book that I highly recommend. Not dealing exactly with atheism but rather the workings of the human brain and its relation/non-relation to our modern computer technology. Very good book.

Celebrindal · 03-29-2007, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Tea on tuesday

edit: Also Celebrindal you should read this. $8 used...

Ordered it tonight, thanks. I'll let you know what I think of it when I'm done.

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Originally Posted by Jedah

EDIT 2: The Daniel Dennett Youtube video was interesting; does his book continue his line of reasoning, or does he stop simply with "well, I know alot of moral atheists?" Do you know of any authors who explore the shape of the moral landscape in the absence of religion?

Hey, I'm sorry I missed this question. He does continue his 'line of reasoning'. I really recommend this book. He critically analyzes religion without coming off arrogant, and I think that helps people of all beliefs read this without being offended.

Suineg · 03-29-2007, 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Celebrindal

Read the title again, boys. Recommended reading FROM an Atheist(edit to clarify: From meaning me). The reason I've posted Darwin was because I remember reading in another thread about wanting to learn about evolution. Having to be able to read Darwin's works for free is a cool thing.

This thread will also contain books about science.

I would challenge you to make a seperate thread for that. Your thread you do whatever but Atheism != Science. Too many people get them confused I know it's hard to differentiate.

Suineg · 03-29-2007, 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Screamfeeder

But of course you do correct?

It is a simple simple concept because it says it cut and dry multiple times throughout the New Testament but any "atheist" refuses to read it and grasp the concept.

Screamfeeder · 03-29-2007, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Suineg

It is a simple simple concept because it says it cut and dry multiple times throughout the New Testament but any "atheist" refuses to read it and grasp the concept.

Then it should be really simple for you to give me this simple concept.

I am going through my KJV, NIV and AS bible trying to glean this amazing concept that I must have missed the first 10 or or so times I read these books.

Here is another great author that, while having little/nothing to do with atheism, has written some great books on the field of theoretical physics.

Suineg · 03-30-2007, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Screamfeeder

Then it should be really simple for you to give me this simple concept.

I am going through my KJV, NIV and AS bible trying to glean this amazing concept that I must have missed the first 10 or or so times I read these books.

Ephesians 2 and specifically around the 15th verse but read the whole chapter for context.

Galations 3 also the majority of the chapter for context.

They both say cut and dry how the law is still there but isn't our basis anymore. That you will as a result of having a changed life naturally follow them and desire to be moral.

Castigator · 04-03-2007, 11:55 AM

Oh yeah.. I haven't seen it mentioned here, but if you get a bit tired of the serious stuff, you can always pick up the Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster for some laughs.

More info:

Official Website

Wiki Article

RAMEN!

Celebrindal · 04-03-2007, 10:38 PM

Has anyone here read Amazon.com: Phantoms in the Brain: Probing the Mysteries of the Human Mind: Books: V. S. Ramachandran,Sandra Blakeslee,Oliver Sacks ?

I'm about 3 quarters into it and it is truly fascinating. If anyone else has read it, I would really like your feedback on the book. When I finish it, I would like to post a couple of excerpts. I would right now, but I don't have the time to do so.

Suineg · 04-04-2007, 06:16 AM

I downloaded an audio book of Phantons in the Brain I think and will let you know what I think from a non-atheist standpoint.

Screamfeeder · 04-06-2007, 01:00 PM

Righteous-Dispatches from the Evangelical Youth Movement

Great book about how the youth of America are being targeting by evangelical mega-churches and how the young then work to recruit more.

Think of it like "Jesus Camp", but instead of young children it's for teenagers/young adults.

It gives some great insight into how evangelicals (the fastest growing christian denomination) see the future of America.

Suineg · 04-07-2007, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Screamfeeder

Righteous-Dispatches from the Evangelical Youth Movement

Great book about how the youth of America are being targeting by evangelical mega-churches and how the young then work to recruit more.

Think of it like "Jesus Camp", but instead of young children it's for teenagers/young adults.

It gives some great insight into how evangelicals (the fastest growing christian denomination) see the future of America.

Be careful how you come across.

Just because one or two large churches do something crazy does not mean the vast majority of evangelicals believe in it.

I, being a Christian, have no desire to do mass "recruiting" efforts. I present the facts to the people that I see ready in my life and live my life well so that when people have questions knowing that I am a Christian they know who to ask. They also know I don't pretend to know everything about it and am willing to debate unmenacingly.

Screamfeeder · 04-07-2007, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Suineg

Just because one or two large churches do something crazy does not mean the vast majority of evangelicals believe in it.

They why do they all rally behind one single orginization?

Every single evangelical church website I have been too has some refrence or link to the NAE. Most even quote the entire charter as their core beliefs.

The Meme Machine by Susan Blackmore with forward by Richard Dawkins.

Suineg · 04-09-2007, 01:52 AM

Ahh you mean straight hardcore "Evangelicals"

I have gone to some super churches in Southern California including Saddleback and I have yet to meet a real "Evangelical" they are a separate somewhat psychotic breed.

Otavia · 04-12-2007, 07:43 AM

I only browsed the replies - sorry if someone else already linked it:

Amazon.com: Misquoting Jesus: The Story Behind Who Changed the Bible and Why (Plus): Books: Bart D. Ehrman

Bart Ehrman is a professor of religious studies at University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. I know almost nothing about the Bible so I can't speak for the accuracy of it, but it's a unique book.

Celebrindal · 04-16-2007, 11:17 PM

Not going to put this on the front page yet, because I haven't read them, but I was recommended it, so I'll just pass it along.

Randel McCraw Helms - [The Bible Against Itself: Why the Bible Seems to Contradict Itself] - [Who Wrote The Gospels?]

I just wanted to thank Tea on Tuesday for:

Theodore Schick - [How to Think About Weird Things: Critical Thinking for a New Age]

I'm really enjoying it. I'm a bit more than halfway through it. This book should be required reading in Junior High+.

04-03-2007, 10:38 PM	#68 (permalink)
Celebrindal Spoon! Join Date: May 2003 Location: NYC Posts: 1,335 +26 Internets	Has anyone here read Amazon.com: Phantoms in the Brain: Probing the Mysteries of the Human Mind: Books: V. S. Ramachandran,Sandra Blakeslee,Oliver Sacks ? I'm about 3 quarters into it and it is truly fascinating. If anyone else has read it, I would really like your feedback on the book. When I finish it, I would like to post a couple of excerpts. I would right now, but I don't have the time to do so. __________________ Join the FoH Rosetta@Home team & check out the Science Video Thread.

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Celebrindal Spoon! Join Date: May 2003 Location: NYC Posts: 1,335 +26 Internets	Not going to put this on the front page yet, because I haven't read them, but I was recommended it, so I'll just pass it along. Randel McCraw Helms - [The Bible Against Itself: Why the Bible Seems to Contradict Itself] - [Who Wrote The Gospels?] I just wanted to thank Tea on Tuesday for: Theodore Schick - [How to Think About Weird Things: Critical Thinking for a New Age] I'm really enjoying it. I'm a bit more than halfway through it. This book should be required reading in Junior High+. __________________ Join the FoH Rosetta@Home team & check out the Science Video Thread.

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04-03-2007, 11:55 AM	#67 (permalink)
Castigator Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Phnom Penh Posts: 950	Oh yeah.. I haven't seen it mentioned here, but if you get a bit tired of the serious stuff, you can always pick up the Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster for some laughs. More info: Official Website Wiki Article RAMEN!

04-04-2007, 06:16 AM	#69 (permalink)
Suineg Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,801 -8 Internets	I downloaded an audio book of Phantons in the Brain I think and will let you know what I think from a non-atheist standpoint.

04-06-2007, 01:00 PM	#70 (permalink)
Screamfeeder I MAEK ART!! Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,700 +69 Internets	Righteous-Dispatches from the Evangelical Youth Movement Great book about how the youth of America are being targeting by evangelical mega-churches and how the young then work to recruit more. Think of it like "Jesus Camp", but instead of young children it's for teenagers/young adults. It gives some great insight into how evangelicals (the fastest growing christian denomination) see the future of America.

04-09-2007, 01:52 AM	#73 (permalink)
Suineg Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,801 -8 Internets	Ahh you mean straight hardcore "Evangelicals" I have gone to some super churches in Southern California including Saddleback and I have yet to meet a real "Evangelical" they are a separate somewhat psychotic breed.

04-12-2007, 07:43 AM	#74 (permalink)
Otavia Fires of Heaven Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 37 -1 Internets	I only browsed the replies - sorry if someone else already linked it: Amazon.com: Misquoting Jesus: The Story Behind Who Changed the Bible and Why (Plus): Books: Bart D. Ehrman Bart Ehrman is a professor of religious studies at University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. I know almost nothing about the Bible so I can't speak for the accuracy of it, but it's a unique book.