Charlie Sheen demands answers concerning 9/11

[Torvon]

Well this story has crept back into the news. With the anniversary of 9/11 upon us there has been an abundance of news articles and pictures of the tragic events that happened 8 years ago and now apparently some people are demanding more answers. Obviously there have been those that have questioned 9/11 and the events that surrounded it, for quite a while now but it seems to be getting more attention today. It seems as though many politicians and public figures avoid the issue like the plague, and based on recent events with a Mr. Van Jones I would say that is a wise decision...at least politically.

A month or so ago I watched a documentary about the events that occurred on September 11, 2001. My initial reaction to all of the questions that were being asked was rather common I believe; I simply dismissed the people asking them as "conspiracy theorists" who probably had some hidden agenda. After trying to keep an open mind and consider all of the evidence that I have seen, which admittedly probably isn't all the evidence available, I now find myself asking some of the same questions. In debating myself over 9/11 I normally end up at the same place I started, and that's the Pentagon.

I currently hold no belief whatsoever that the Bush administration was involved in orchestrating 9/11 or the tragic events that occurred that day. I guess that is part of the problem at this point; I'm not sure exactly what I believe concerning 9/11. On the one hand it seems so obvious, of course that was a plane that hit the Pentagon! Of course it happened exactly like the government has said and documented! On the other hand, there are far too many questions that haven't been adequately answered to convince me this is the case for certain.

I'm just wondering if anyone that is more learned on this subject can shed some light on the issue for me. Is there a good source (documentary, book, documents) that I can turn to for the perspective of the government and those that claim it happened exactly the way the government has said? The documentary I watched seemed rather one sided and at least half of their claims were pretty out there. Some of the questions, however, I thought are very valid. Have my Google skills simply failed me in my search for answers to the questions that Charlie Sheen and others are asking? Perhaps I just haven't looked in the right place yet.

I'd also be really interested just to hear everyone's take on 9/11. Should the government re-open an investigation? Should we just try and move on regardless of what really happened? I've never put any stock in the conspiracy theories of the day, but I don't understand why people can't ask questions and get (at the very least) some type of credible response.

Here is the video of Charlie Sheen if anyone is interested. I'm not trying to get anyone to sign a petition or become a "believer" or anything.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

[Amnesiac]

heard them playing this on stern this week and was dieing...someone definitely should have told Sheen you never go full retard

[Soygen]

Originally Posted by Torvon

Should the government re-open an investigation?

No.

[jayrebb]

Originally Posted by Torvon

Should the government re-open an investigation?

This question makes absolutely no sense.

How can you investigate something that involves entities that are not meant to be investigated?

You can apply this same logic to ANY military intelligence. Some doors remain closed indefinitely.

[Araxen]

He should have watched the NGC Special a couple weeks ago and stfu. These people are worse than the damn birthers.

[Eomer]

I currently hold no belief whatsoever that the Bush administration was involved in orchestrating 9/11 or the tragic events that occurred that day. I guess that is part of the problem at this point; I'm not sure exactly what I believe concerning 9/11. On the one hand it seems so obvious, of course that was a plane that hit the Pentagon! Of course it happened exactly like the government has said and documented! On the other hand, there are far too many questions that haven't been adequately answered to convince me this is the case for certain.

Stop beating around the bush and just come out and say what issues or questions you have regarding the Pentagon and 9/11 then. I'm not going to take the time to watch whatever truther video you watched, so even if it's just point form lay out what your concerns with it are so they can be addressed in about 5 seconds of Googling.

I don't think for a second that the Bush administration had any idea of what was going to happen on 9/11. I think it's possible, but also incredibly unlikely, that they suspected an attack was going to happen sometime in the near future and perhaps decided not to take much action on it because it would provide a convenient pretext to attack Iraq, which was undoubtedly going to happen no matter what the second Bush was elected. But even in that incredibly unlikely event, I don't believe for even a second that they knew of the magnitude of the potential attack. They probably figured it'd be another pissant little bomb in the parkade of the WTC, or maybe some more embassy bombings or attacks on US interests abroad. I think Cheney is a pretty bad dude, but I don't think even he would be capable of something so abhorrent.

What's most likely is exactly what Richard Clarke and others have claimed: the administration was completely incompetent at anti-terrorism just like it was at pretty much every other important file. It had a narrow tunnel vision to pursue several goals, and had blinders on for everything else. They were as caught off guard by the attacks as everyone else, except for the people like Clarke they SHOULD have been listening to. But even if they had listened to Clarke and met with him in August as he had been trying to, it's unlikely the attacks would have been prevented. Up until that day, no one outside of Tom Clancy and Dale Brown realistically considered the possibility that civilian airliners would be used as massive bombs to terrorize the Western world.

I just find it so priceless that there's so many people out there that with every breath they have will point out all the flaws and fuckups in the Bush administration, one so incompetent it shit the bed with pretty much every major issue it faced. Yet in the next breath, they'll accuse it of being able to mastermind the most complicated and spectacular conspiracy of all time in an age where information can flow easily and freely with little hindrance, and somehow they were able to suppress basically ANY evidence of the conspiracy even though those involved would have numbered in the thousands at the very least. It's so far beyond logical, rational thought it barely warrants consideration.

But unfortunately, in this age where information can flow easily and freely, instead of it resulting in a utopia of perfect knowledge we instead have perfectly shitty knowledge spreading like wild fire in the minds of those looking for answers to questions that don't need to be asked, they're so far out there.

It's an interesting phenomenon, to put it nicely.

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[Believe]

Originally Posted by Eomer

Stop beating around the bush and just come out and say what issues or questions you have regarding the Pentagon and 9/11 then.

Pretty much this. So many experts in their respective fields have concluded that everything that we believe happened, could and did happen. What I don't understand why conspiracy theorists try to ignore this and believe there are still unanswered questions.

[OneofOne]

I'm 100% convinced Bush knew nothing about what was going to take place. All you have to do is see the scared puppy looking eyes when he was informed and didn't have a clue how to handle it. Had he known, he'd have had a response ready.

Beyond that, who knows. Several "conspiracies" have been uncovered regarding our government, who later admitted and apologized for them, so anything is possible.

[Malakriss]

They dropped the ball. There's your answer.

Question is... when is someone going to pick it back up?

[Adam12]

The only video worth watching on the subject of 9/11 conspiracy can be found here:

Mystery of the Urinal Deuce - Episode Guide - South Park Studios

[Locithon]

Even the US's most well known dissident doesn't believe this nonsense:

[Lumie]

I just find it so priceless that there's so many people out there that with every breath they have will point out all the flaws and fuckups in the Bush administration, one so incompetent it shit the bed with pretty much every major issue it faced. Yet in the next breath, they'll accuse it of being able to mastermind the most complicated and spectacular conspiracy of all time in an age where information can flow easily and freely with little hindrance, and somehow they were able to suppress basically ANY evidence of the conspiracy even though those involved would have numbered in the thousands at the very least. It's so far beyond logical, rational thought it barely warrants consideration.

That same administration purposely makes itself look dumb so that idiots like you will think they aren't capable of anything mean while they've got the smartest people and the most advanced technology on their side and an infinite money supply. Believe me they are anything but incompetent and they planned this out to perfection.

I really shouldn't bother since most of the people here are fucking retards with shit for brains but 9/11 was an inside job and it's so god damn obvious that you seriously have to be completely fucking retarded or you simply cannot handle the truth, to not realize it. Not only did they know what would happen but THEY FUCKING PLANNED IT AND CARRIED IT OUT.

The planes were empty and were remote control flown into the towers which were then demolished using pre-planted explosives, both the north and south towers as well as building 7. The buildings collapsing in free fall is proof beyond all doubt of an inside job. It's 100% irrefutable evidence and anyone that says otherwise is a fucking moron and doesn't understand first grade math let alone complex physics and thus shouldn't even be allowed to have an oppinion about anything.

[lost]

Anyone ever seen that zeitgeist movie? some interesting stuff in there.. specially about 9/11

[Screamfeeder]

Hey Lumie.

Got that biopsy yet to prove you can cure cancer with pumice stones and wheat grass?