Free brothels for everyone!

[Astrocreep]

Originally Posted by Screamfeeder

Google it. I'm sure you will find it. (FYI, it was said originally by a black dude)



Ahh I see. So maybe the cartoon of Condi is just how Jeff Danziger thinks Condi is at home. Could be right? I mean it's all up to interpretation right?

I tell you what, how about you tell me, exactly what you see as being racist in the Condeoleezza Rice cartoon. I'm setting you up for a trap and I'm letting you know beforehand because I don't want you to feel like I am just insulting you or playing gotcha games.

So what is it that is racist about the Condi cartoon? Keep in mind that every single item you list will more than likely appear on an Obama poster that I will link once your done.

Maybe when you get around to actually answering my first question and stop trying to deflect or dodge around the issue, I will stop trying to trap you.

So go ahead, give me a full list of all the racist elements in the Condeoleezza Rice cartoon and lets see if we can find those exact same elements in some 9/12 posters. Maybe when we use your exact definition of racism, we can get you to actually answer a question with a straight answer.

well if its that easy to find then you can google and post it. im not sure why you expect me to do that for you. and if you ever heard or seen condi rice then youll know that image is not a caricature like some political cartoons are without being racist but a full on stereotypical exaggeration of the woman.

[Dandain]

Astro you are so willingly naive about peoples motives. People know that carrying a sign plastered with strong racial slurs is quite blatantly racist and would get you ostracized immediately even from the tea party crowd because they understand the backlash of such a choice.

So instead they carry signs or say things that allow them to pursue their racist motivation in a way that they can deny. Its not some conspiracy where everyone who disagrees is racist but use your damn brain. Every race has its racists.

If you aren't willing to concede that an above average percentage of the 9/12 protesters could be classified as white racists then I don't have anything to tell you. Much the same way that any black panther poll police probably by percentage are more racist.

The naive thing is to suggest is that we are a racist free society. And to a degree every race has its racists. Acorn definitely has some tools, so does Freedomworks, the Heritage foundation, etc. etc.

Edit: The inability of the most vocal protesters to state their position and exactly what the hell they disagree about should be indicative of a potentially alternative motivation or just plain ignorance.

[Araysar]

Originally Posted by Astrocreep

whats a mack daddy? a pimp? as this thread has pointed out pimps are not exclusive to one color. to be honest i havent seen the poster you are mentioning. maybe people who dont know anything about africa think all africans dress up like zulus or something. dunno if thats racist or just ignorant. thats up for interpretation. and lastly the cartoon was printed in the LA Times. dunno the slant the cartoonist has but im pretty sure the LA Times is not a right wing rag.

You are so amazingly dumb.

[Screamfeeder]

Originally Posted by Astrocreep

well if its that easy to find then you can google and post it

It's a non issue now since you are using a definition of racism that I am not.

Originally Posted by Astrocreep

and if you ever heard or seen condi rice then youll know that image is not a caricature like some political cartoons are without being racist but a full on stereotypical exaggeration of the woman.

How exactly? In what ways? Describe the elements that are stereotypically exaggerated.

[Astrocreep]

Originally Posted by Dandain

Astro you are so willingly naive about peoples motives. People know that carrying a sign plastered with strong racial slurs is quite blatantly racist and would get you ostracized immediately even from the tea party crowd because they understand the backlash of such a choice.

So instead they carry signs or say things that allow them to pursue their racist motivation in a way that they can deny. Its not some conspiracy where everyone who disagrees is racist but use your damn brain. Every race has its racists.

If you aren't willing to concede that an above average percentage of the 9/12 protesters could be classified as white racists then I don't have anything to tell you. Much the same way that any black panther poll police probably by percentage are more racist.

The naive thing is to suggest is that we are a racist free society. And to a degree every race has its racists. Acorn definitely has some tools, so does Freedomworks, the Heritage foundation, etc. etc.

dude im not claiming that racism doesnt exist. it exists plenty and i have no doubt at least some of the million protestors on healthcare dont like the new guy becuase of his skin color and think maybe thats what got him in office in the first place. my point was that while that exist its not the standard and the dumb fuck carrying an african garbed poster around might not be the grand kleagle of the KKK. everything isnt so black and white. pun not intended.

[Screamfeeder]

Originally Posted by Astrocreep

i have no doubt at least some of the million protestors on healthcare dont like the new guy becuase of his skin color and maybe thats what got him in office in the first place.

What is what got him office in the first place? His skin color, or the people that didn't like him because of his skin color? Not being snarky, I just need you to clarify your sentence structure.

Originally Posted by Astrocreep

my point was that while that exist its not the standard and the dumb fuck carrying an african garbed poster around might not be the grand kleagle of the KKK. everything isnt so black and white. pun not intended.

You're right he probably isn't. But he is still a racist. He is also not alone. He was also never called out by anyone at the rally or after. Him and all the others with racist posters.

We are not saying it is the standard. The standard is stupidity. We are saying the racism is enough of an element to make an impact. Are you now admitting the African poster was in fact racist, or do we still need to clarify that?

[Astrocreep]

Originally Posted by Screamfeeder

What is what got him office in the first place? His skin color, or the people that didn't like him because of his skin color? Not being snarky, I just need you to clarify your sentence structure.



You're right he probably isn't. But he is still a racist. He is also not alone. He was also never called out by anyone at the rally or after. Him and all the others with racist posters.

We are not saying it is the standard. The standard is stupidity. We are saying the racism is enough of an element to make an impact. Are you now admitting the African poster was in fact racist, or do we still need to clarify that?

i didnt see the fucking poster yet!

[Screamfeeder]

Originally Posted by Astrocreep

i didnt see the fucking poster yet!

This is why it is so hard for people to "rationally debate" with you. You don't actually answer questions and you display an unwillingness to do even the slightest bit of work to substantiate the things you say. It's the same thing that Arbiter does which is why you are constantly just insulted.

Notice I said the "African Poster" which is the same poster I linked earlier and the same one that you referenced. I will link it again here. I will also attach it to the bottom of this post. This poster is racist. This poster was used by more than one person at the 9/12 rallies and was used at other rallies. There are many other posters that are just as, if not more racist. The entire point of this conversation is to help illustrate to you that there is a major element of racism involved in the anti-Obama protests. I hope that clears it up for you.

[Astrocreep]

Originally Posted by Screamfeeder

This is why it is so hard for people to "rationally debate" with you. You don't actually answer questions and you display an unwillingness to do even the slightest bit of work to substantiate the things you say. It's the same thing that Arbiter does which is why you are constantly just insulted.

Notice I said the "African Poster" which is the same poster I linked earlier and the same one that you referenced. I will link it again here. I will also attach it to the bottom of this post. This poster is racist. This poster was used by more than one person at the 9/12 rallies and was used at other rallies. There are many other posters that are just as, if not more racist. The entire point of this conversation is to help illustrate to you that there is a major element of racism involved in the anti-Obama protests. I hope that clears it up for you.

lol that poster is hilarious but yeah its pretty racist if people are walking around with that.

[Screamfeeder]

Originally Posted by Astrocreep

lol that poster is hilarious

Originally Posted by Astrocreep

yeah its pretty racist

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Well it was wonderful to "rationally debate" with you. Hopefully now you understand that sometimes playing the "race card" is justified because sometimes it really is racist. Next time someone plays the "race card", just remember your words here. Here are just a few more examples of right-wing protesters playing their very own race card.

[Astrocreep]

Originally Posted by Screamfeeder

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Well it was wonderful to "rationally debate" with you. Hopefully now you understand that sometimes playing the "race card" is justified because sometimes it really is racist. Next time someone plays the "race card", just remember your words here. Here are just a few more examples of right-wing protesters playing their very own race card.

was nice "debating" you too. sorry i didnt take your bait on some things but we pretty much agree with eachother even though we are on 2 different sides of the argument. lets do lunch?

[Celebrindal]

I just wanted to touch on the Lyin' African poster.

I firmly believe the idea behind it was a funny way to be racist. Obama's race was used detrimentally against him.

[Phoenix]

3 pages of the pot calling the kettle black.

[Lleauaric~EW]

Racism is bred from stupidity and Ignorant fear.

When one of the most common answers you would get from people about why they were there was because "Obama wants make white people slaves to blacks." You know you have some problems.









See how it works.. THEY arent the racist. Obama is the racist for trying to oppress white people and they are just standing up to it to make sure America is a place of happiness and justice, like it was under GWB, not one where these Hitler like black people use ACORN to make us pay high taxes and turn us into their slaves.

[Astrocreep]

btw hitler was not black and acorn still has corrupt employees and fox is just exploiting that fact for ratings. has nothing to do with bringing down the brown.