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Old 09-04-2009, 12:43 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Steve Harvey is not convinced:

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then all of a sudden then we were evolved from monkeys—why we still got monkeys?
New Steve Harvey video on Larry King where he calls atheists “idiots”. ¿|¿Is a bigot.
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Old 09-04-2009, 01:14 PM   #17 (permalink)
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why we still got monkeys?
I think it's pretty obvious why we still "got monkeys". Who else would eat God's perfect fruit?
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Old 09-04-2009, 01:27 PM   #18 (permalink)
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No doubt evolution is fact but it still sucks that we came from a monkey. id like to think that the monkeys we see now are the lame monkeys and we came from uber monkeys that could get their shit together and populate the world with war and intelligence. the lame monkeys stayed in africa throwing shit at eachother and inventing AIDS.
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Old 09-04-2009, 01:43 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Bridging species? That currently isn't "fact" and is a theory and I doubt we will ever "prove" it.
Uh oh.

I'm giving you one chance to recant this sentence Suineg, before I post a wall of text on why it's wrong.
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Old 09-04-2009, 01:46 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Old 09-04-2009, 01:54 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Bridging species? That currently isn't "fact" and is a theory and I doubt we will ever "prove" it.
Hmmm.

13 more things: Hybrid life - 02 September 2009 - New Scientist

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LOOK at the genome of a sea squirt and you'll get a nasty surprise. Half of its genes have a straightforward evolutionary history. In fairness, so does the other half. Trouble is, the two histories are completely different. It seems that sea squirts do not, as we had thought, sit among the chordates, on the same evolutionary line as humans and other vertebrates. Instead, they are the result of what happens when you fuse an ancient chordate with the ancestor of a sea urchin.
Goddamn facts are annoying sometimes aren't they?
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I'd elaborate on what I said since you obviously took it wrong, but I don't believe that you're stupid enough to not get what I was saying. The very next sentence qualifies the statement.

I see now. You're one of those people that looks for reasons to be offended. It must be frustrating to go through life like that.
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Old 09-04-2009, 02:43 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Old 09-04-2009, 02:48 PM   #23 (permalink)
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"God invented the mechanism for a hands-off approach to creating life in evolution."

Whoops, back to square one, Dawkins. Look, let them believe what they want; they're mostly benign, and the crazy ones will die out in a few generations. And what in the world are you going to do about the spiritual people who don't believe in God but still believe in other sorts of crazy shit? Ah man, irrationality bites.
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Old 09-04-2009, 02:50 PM   #24 (permalink)
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...the crazy ones will die out in a few generations.
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Old 09-04-2009, 02:55 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Nah. Religion is on a definite down swing globally.
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Old 09-04-2009, 02:58 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Nah. Religion is on a definite down swing globally.
Yeah I know, it's going to be much longer than a few generations however.

But whats actually happening is that while more and more atheists are showing up, more and more moderate theists are turning batshit, evangelical as well.

Eventually it is going to turn into two super polarized groups, with atheists/agnostics on one side, and evangelical/Wahhabi-ists on the other.
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Old 09-04-2009, 03:09 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Yeah I know, it's going to be much longer than a few generations however.

But whats actually happening is that while more and more atheists are showing up, more and more moderate theists are turning batshit, evangelical as well.

Eventually it is going to turn into two super polarized groups, with atheists/agnostics on one side, and evangelical/Wahhabi-ists on the other.
Dont forget the sea otter faction.
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Old 09-04-2009, 03:17 PM   #28 (permalink)
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We are discussing macro-evolution.
The distinction between macro-evolution and micro-evolution comes from creationists, since not even the most dense idiots can claim micro-evolution is in doubt. Small changes over millions of years = big changes.

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No doubt evolution is fact but it still sucks that we came from a monkey. id like to think that the monkeys we see now are the lame monkeys and we came from uber monkeys that could get their shit together and populate the world with war and intelligence.
Obviously we're not descendents of today's monkeys - they've evolved, too. We just share a common ancestor. By the way, we're also fairly closely related to the gorilla. Try taking on one of those.
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Old 09-04-2009, 03:51 PM   #29 (permalink)
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problem with religious folk is that they shut out anything they have already learned via religion.

if god him self came down from the sky or what ever they expect him to do and told everyone the truth about everything there would be a large percent of religious people who would not believe it. for one, each person has a different idea about god, even between christians not to mention every other religion on earth has a different idea of god.

if science could prove without a 100% doubt that all life evolved from a common ancestor the religious people would still refuse to.

the point is faith is one thing and science is another. faith is the absolute belief in something with out reason. science is the the process of learning through reason.


the only problem i have with religion is that FOR SOME FUCKED UP REASON ABSOLUTE BELIEF WITH OUT REASON HAS AN EFFECT ON REAL LIFE ISSUES. for fucks sake if you want to believe in magic and bull shit fine i know it gives weak people strength but at least acknowledge it has no part is rational thought.

i look at devout religious people the same way i look at the mentally ill. no matter how much you reason with them it doesn't matter. yet the most stupid illogical thing on earth grabs their absolute attention.

i hope in a 1000 years we can look at religion as the biggest set back in human progress and the closest thing to evil was the one entity that claimed to be the opposite of evil.
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Old 09-04-2009, 04:09 PM   #30 (permalink)
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The only thing worse than people that outright deny evolution is people that try using science to disprove religion. Seriously, this is like intro level anthropology at your nearest community college. Pitting religion vs science is just as naive as claiming there is no evolution.
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