Ted's Senate seat up for grabs.

[Chanur]

Originally Posted by Lleauaric~EW

Oh really wow.. rumors? No shit? Was he born in Kenya too?

Hey your the jack off swallowing his pole because he passed some bills. Why don't you tell her parents that hey its A okay because he was a good guy after he let her die.

[Snugglebear]

In his televised apology about the incident he brought up that 'Kennedy Curse', but I think only Bobby and John were cursed. The eldest brother Jack died in an airplane filled with explosives because he wanted shiny medals. JFK Junior died because he was a tard and flew into a low-visibility situation without enough training. Ted got wasted and drove his car into a river. I don't see a curse there, just stupidity brought on by excessive insulation from consequences in life.

[Usha Starchild]

Give the seat to Nicolas Cage, he always gets out of tough situations!

[Draegan]

Man a US Senator dies and the classy comes out.

You all should be ashamed of yourselves. Wait at least 24 hours before you piss on his corpse. The man was one of the greatest legislatures of our time and that title has been bestowed upon him by both Republicans and Democrats in the House and Senate of both past and present members.

[Fammaden]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

So the nazis did nothing wrong then huh?

Maybe not technically but close enough to call it:

[Simas]

I imagine he got drunk and the party and asked the chic "Hey wanna get out of here and bang?" Then, being drunk he crashed the car over the bridge. He got out. He noticed she didnt. I imagine he tried to help her. It makes sense that he would try to help her b/c at this point it's in his own best interest. Crashing drunk into a lake is bad but its not as bad as crashing drunk into a lake and having your passenger die. He failed in helping her. He waked away and started trying to figure out how to handle the situation.

Anyone who really thinks he crashed, got out, said "Haha bitch drowned" and walked away is blinded by politics.

Should he have called for help? Yes. Does not calling for help make him similar to OJ? No. OJ stabbed the shit outta people and (almost) cut off heads because he was jealous. Did his sentence get suspended because he was rich and famous? Yes.

Welcome to America. Michael Jackson was "murdered".

Teddy didnt save a chic from drowing. Thats shitty. Depending on your politics the stuff he did afterwards can make up for it or it can just make him even more of an asshole. The high and mighty moral stuff feels inconsistent coming from some of the more "kill em all, let god sort it out" posters. The "he got off cuz theres a (D) by his name!!!1" stuff is ignorant or disingenuous.

All that aside, '09 is shaping up to be the year everyone died.

[Astrocreep]

If this fuck had any remorse he would have called the cops right after it happened and bit the bullet for the consequences. He chose the chickenshit option, covered his own ass, slept off the effects of the alcohol, NEVER reported what happened and used his connections and famous nametag to get his ass out of it. a brave man he was not. fucking coward.

[Screamfeeder]

Laura Bush ran a stop sign and killed someone.

I guess a bullet to her forehead is too extreme for her case so how about we only cut off her arms?

Some of you people are seriously fucked up in the head and should seek psychological help ASAP.

[AladainAF]

Originally Posted by Lleauaric~EW

It also brings up the issue of redemption. Can you fuck up in life and then make amends? You kill someone by accident... is that it? Just fucking kill yourself?

So.. all people who operate a motor vehicle on the road that kill someone just did it by accident?

Yeah, ok. Lets hear you say that when its someone from YOUR family that gets killed.

Laura Bush ran a stop sign and killed someone.

Laura Bush was 17 and not in public office. Kennedy was a senator.

(Though I don't agree with a bullet in the head over a DUI, shit. But I do believe Kennedy got off free and clear compared to the average person.)

[Screamfeeder]

Originally Posted by AladainAF

Yeah, ok. Lets hear you say that when its someone from YOUR family that gets killed.

My brother in law was killed in a car crash where the driver of the other vehicle simply lost control going around a corner. Police determined he was doing at most 5-10 miles over the limit and it was just a case of him turning a bit too late and over-correcting which caused his truck to roll and completely crush the entire front end of my brothers car.

Did I want to string the guy up and smash his balls and cut his nose off and all the other shit some of you idiots are saying?

No, because unlike some of you, I realize we do not live in fucking Bartertown. There is no goddamn Thunderdome and we do not need to be placing heads on spikes and broadcasting the screams of those in our dungeons across the land simply to keep law and order.

Laura never did jail time though and as far as I can see, was never even punished for DEATH SPEEDING HER MOBILE CRUSH WEAPON PAST A STOP SIGN AND SLAMMING IT INTO ANOTHER VEHICLE BRUTALLY SLAYING ANOTHER HUMAN BEING WITH WHAT WE CAN ONLY ASSUME TO BE SINISTER MOTIVE AND MALICIOUS INTENT.

Your move ace.

[AladainAF]

Originally Posted by Screamfeeder

Your move ace.

So.. did the guy that killed your brother in law flee the scene and only showing up after it was reported on the news? That part is mysteriously missing from what you said.. and if you were trying to compare your situation with my response, it doesn't even apply.

So please, try again. Harder next time.

[Phoenix]

US Senator drunk driving his car into a lake then leaving his passenger to die while he runs off not alerting the authorities then going as far to cover it up > a 17 year old girl running a stop sign then causing a fatal accident but staying and calling 911

She should of been punished for her actions, but there is a world class difference between the two. What Teddy did was simply unforgivable, except to the bacon loving fools of Massachusetts.

[Screamfeeder]

Originally Posted by AladainAF

So.. did the guy that killed your brother in law flee the scene and only showing up after it was reported on the news? That part is mysteriously missing from what you said.. and if you were trying to compare your situation with my response, it doesn't even apply.

You're right it's different.

But, nor I nor any members of either families were clamoring for any sort of bloodshed. The guy did a small stint in county, paid a good amount of money to the family and that was that. If one of you blood soaked Khorne worshiping Desert Badasses had been there on scene, I am sure his toes would have been roasted and his eyeballs plucked out by robot ravens.

Your question was in answer to someone else asking about redemption in the case of accident. I gave you a perfect example but since it clashes with your Mad Max worldview, you choose to dismiss it.

Originally Posted by Phoenix

She should of been punished for her actions, but there is a world class difference between the two.

Exactly. I mean she was only speeding and ran a stop sign. But, both resulted in death. So I guess you would agree that dismembering her and using the entrails for kite flying in front of her children would be a bit harsh which is why I am sure you would agree that we should only bone and joint her at the elbows right? I figure with all the pounds of flesh you people are calling for in Teddys case, a simple arm or two is getting off easy.

Also, 911 wasn't around when the crash happened, but since you're you I guess we will let that slide...

[Phoenix]

Youre missing the key point, he was a United States Senator who killed someone in a DUI and then fled the scene of the accident and tried to cover it up.

Anyone who does such things should have the book thrown at them but hey keep defending the actions of a drunk driver.

[AladainAF]

But, nor I nor any members of either families were clamoring for any sort of bloodshed. The guy did a small stint in county, paid a good amount of money to the family and that was that.

Still not sure what your point is. We're in agreement here. Accidents happen. Sometimes horrible ones. And if you have the means to get help after something like say a traffic accident, and you call 911 or whatever you can do to get help that is not anywhere near fleeing a scene and not reporting anything until you catch a news report about the body floating in water.

Your question was in answer to someone else asking about redemption in the case of accident. I gave you a perfect example but since it clashes with your Mad Max worldview, you choose to dismiss it.

I didn't dismiss it, stop spouting bullshit. You just gave me an example that doesn't apply anywhere close to the realm of redemption for a case of fleeing a scene where your loved one dies. You gave me an example of a real accident. I had originally applied to someone who said that what Kennedy did was just an accident and should be forgiven. It ceased to be "just an accident" when he decided to run away like a coward.

Exactly. I mean she was only speeding and ran a stop sign. But, both resulted in death.

Just to clarify my position here, Laura Bush should have been punished though I'm not sure what the law was for 17 year olds then (I know the whole trying as an adult thing used to not be as common as it is today). I don't know that whole story so I'm not gonna comment in depth - but shes an equal piece of shit if she fled the scene and didn't report anything either. Just because it resulted in death doesn't matter and had nothing at all to do with my point.